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HouseofSuren posted:Have you read about Artorias?
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Why can't I buy #10 percussion caps tho
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Mar 5, 2024 01:28
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tfw when Genoese Crossbowmen being OP in AOE2 is historically accurate
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Mar 5, 2024 01:29
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500excf type r posted:Why can't I buy #10 percussion caps tho We've been over this, there's a black powder shortage, because the US had a single factory producing it.
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Mar 5, 2024 01:30
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:We've been over this, there's a black powder shortage, because the US had a single factory producing it. I have plenty of goex 3f and 2f powder and can go buy all I want tomorrow, it is readily available Also I'm not sure how much black powder is involved in a percussion cap based on mixing up prime-all which seems to be carbon, sulphur, some sort of concessive explosive(maybe Mercury fulminate?), and a binder 500excf type r has issued a correction as of 01:41 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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Mar 5, 2024 01:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:tfw when Genoese Crossbowmen being OP in AOE2 is historically accurate massed muskets were very loud, however, which did have a significant effect on morale, especially on receiving side. loud bangs followed immediately by a bunch of people suddenly bleeding to death all around made people go insane, but that poo poo is rarely present in simple rts games
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Mar 5, 2024 01:43
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjagan
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KomradeX posted:The MQ-9 Reaper is a Longbow, the Houthi antiship ballistic missile is the matchlock. It's all on topic Actually, I think you'd find the Apache to be a Longbow.
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Mar 5, 2024 01:54
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Truga posted:no joke, late-era crossbows were more effective and reliable at killing people than early firearms, which produced far more smoke than death at the end of the day 
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Mar 5, 2024 02:13
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Hubbert posted:and for everyone taking notes at home, the past two pages are why the us will lose ww3 this eventually connects to a prince of Rus listening to a witch, who tells him to create a land called Ukraine
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Mar 5, 2024 02:25
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I always feel like the staff sling doesn't get enough respect. It's easier to learn than a hand sling and you can launch heavier projectiles with it.
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Mar 5, 2024 02:31
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BearsBearsBears posted:I always feel like the staff sling doesn't get enough respect. It's easier to learn than a hand sling and you can launch heavier projectiles with it. Sling bullets were extremely deadly. I think, like javelins, it's just that we're so removed from muscle powered weapons that nobody realizes how potent they were. People still hunt with bows, so you can visualize it, but the sling was learned from childhood by shepherds to protect their flocks, and that's hasn't been a thing in the western world in... a long time. There are some modern scholars on Classical Greek and Hellenic Warfare who believe that the slingers and other peltasts were the most important part of the system and did most of the killing.
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Mar 5, 2024 02:39
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Sling bullets were extremely deadly. I think, like javelins, it's just that we're so removed from muscle powered weapons that nobody realizes how potent they were. People still hunt with bows, so you can visualize it, but the sling was learned from childhood by shepherds to protect their flocks, and that's hasn't been a thing in the western world in... a long time. Speaking of javelins (or darts) and slings, there was the dumb-looking Kestros  This seems to have been developed to combine the power of a sling with the pointiness of a dart. It may have been used in only a single war.
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Mar 5, 2024 02:56
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Ah, the Raytheon interpretation of an atlatl.
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Mar 5, 2024 02:59
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HouseofSuren posted:You would never use a long bow outside of European warfare. it wouldn't work in large open areas where speed and agility would be key. I mean Indians used longbows for quite a long time.
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Mar 5, 2024 03:01
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HouseofSuren posted:Have you read about Artorias? You are saying King arthur was Serbian?
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Mar 5, 2024 03:06
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Should show joules of force applied by the projectile. For example the Longbow has a higher draw weight compared to the asiatic recurve bow, but it has a lower draw length, so a equal powered draw weight recurve bow will have significantly more energy delivered to the projectile.
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Mar 5, 2024 03:07
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:The new(ish) tentatively accepted theory about Crecy is that the Genoese were tired from having marched most of the day, were ordered to engage while their pavises were still with the baggage, advanced into the sun, and were shot down. After taking casualties to no good effect, the crossbowmen began an orderly withdrawal from the field at which time the "kill me this rabble" order of Charles de Alencon was issued. The French then launched headlong unorganized attacks against the prepared English positions and in the words of Jean Froissart in his Chronicles, "The lords and knights of France came not to the assembly together in good order, for some came before and some came after in such haste and evil order, that one of them did trouble another." The French forces threw away what should have been an assured victory (the French love affair with the "arme blanche" lasted until WWI) through arrogance and a belief that the cavalry charge would carry everything before it. Cavalry charge = NATO air power
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Mar 5, 2024 03:57
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Slavvy posted:Cavalry charge = NATO air power Cavalry charge = NATO air power = Legion's majestic slow cadence
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Sling bullets were extremely deadly. I think, like javelins, it's just that we're so removed from muscle powered weapons that nobody realizes how potent they were. People still hunt with bows, so you can visualize it, but the sling was learned from childhood by shepherds to protect their flocks, and that's hasn't been a thing in the western world in... a long time. it doesn't seem like it should be lethal, it's just a little strip of cloth and you spin it around, it looks so humble and mundane that it's difficult to imagine somebody being seriously injured or even killed by it but when a lead slug hits you in the face at high velocity it's going to gently caress you up no matter what sent it your way
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Mar 5, 2024 04:04
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Slavvy posted:Cavalry charge = NATO air power Nah, always been missiles and drones. We stopped flying over Russia for that fact alone.
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Tankbuster posted:You are saying King arthur was Serbian? Artorias was a real guy based in modern England who was from that area, whether it was the basis for King Arthur is totally different. It's a bit confusing but no one in history called themselves Thrace which is a label from the Hellenistic peoples, the peoples to the west Balkans were Illyrians, south Greeks, and northeast (modern Romania) called themselves Dahae/Dacia/Getae. Most likely a western equivalent of people like the Massagetae. This is where Europe gets the word Dragon/Draco and the military standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_Draco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(military_standard) Draco is most likely a version of the Simorgh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simurgh Pendragon and Arthur are not native names to the western europeans. HouseofSuren has issued a correction as of 04:33 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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Mar 5, 2024 04:24
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HouseofSuren posted:Nah, always been missiles and drones. We stopped flying over Russia for that fact alone. Every war game run by NATO assumes air supremacy and it's what allows them to dominate poor countries I'm this regard it's exactly like aristocracy thinking a heavy cavalry charge will always be decisive and what let's them dominate poor people In this analogy, cheaply available sams and drones are like the peasants getting crossbows
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Mar 5, 2024 05:45
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Again, not peasants. A crossbow was very expensive, so was a pavise, so was armour. These were well paid, experienced, mercenaries. Northern Italy was not Merry Olde England with Piers Ploughman plucking a bow.
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Doktor Avalanche posted:retreat into fantasy is a common defense mechanism So you're saying that Zelensky is like Denethor rejecting the king in the north?
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Mar 5, 2024 05:58
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HouseofSuren posted:If you read the GBS and DND threads about this war you'd swear to god Ukraine was about to summon a Gundam and the fact that they don't even have an airforce or a navy isn't a big deal while on the retreat from large cities. i liked the guy making fun of russia for abandoning the armata because its too expensive and my immediate thought being "I pray to soon see a similar headline in America"
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Mar 5, 2024 06:02
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Sling bullets were extremely deadly. I think, like javelins, it's just that we're so removed from muscle powered weapons that nobody realizes how potent they were. People still hunt with bows, so you can visualize it, but the sling was learned from childhood by shepherds to protect their flocks, and that's hasn't been a thing in the western world in... a long time. Xenophon said they were just really flippin' annoying. Like they were being harassed by slingers and javelineers and all the heavy hoplites couldn't catch them and given them a good stabbing. So they rounded up all the mercenaries from Rhodes and gave them slings and all the mercenaries from Crete and gave them bows, which is probably where some people got the idea that people from those islands got +1 bonuses to using those weapons.
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Russia abandons t14 armata due to costquote:The head of the Russian defense conglomerate Rostec, Sergey Chemezov, confirmed that the state-of-the-art Russian tank, the T-14 “Armata,” is not being deployed in the war in Ukraine, which the Kremlin has labeled a “special military operation.” Inconceivable
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Homeless Friend posted:i liked the guy making fun of russia for abandoning the armata because its too expensive and my immediate thought being "I pray to soon see a similar headline in America" Budzilla posted:F-35 has actually seen action while the t14 hasn't? It is fun to dogpile on to the F-35 in a vacuum with it's cost, lovely availability rates, etc... at least it is getting used. For some reason after the sanctions in 2014 Russia stopped making the T14 Budzilla posted:How much action F-22s, FA-18s, F-16s have seen in the past year? Not much compared to 7 or 8 years ago with the Syrian Civil War and ISIS. Budzilla posted:The T-14 exists? Yeah that's about the best thing you can say about it. Budzilla posted:"artisanally-made western military materiel" wtf? I love the part where he praises the F-35 and shits on the choice to field hundreds of T-62s while building the other T-series in a land war.
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To be fair, the F-35 is a big dumb wasteful project but ending up with something not completely useless puts it at least above average given how criminally ridiculous procurement is now. we made two types of LCS that both had to be entirely scrapped and then engineered the insanely expensive barely reliable DDG-1000 around a laser weapons system than whoops we canceled it doesnt exist so now it has all these engineering compromises built around something it can’t actually do. So now our replacements for frigates AND destroyers are all broken, expensive, and stupid.
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Slavvy posted:Russia abandons t14 armata due to cost A misleading blog post, they said they are still making the t-14 but it doesn’t make sense for near-term deployment and honestly it makes sense. SMEGMA_MAIL posted:To be fair, the F-35 is a big dumb wasteful project but ending up with something not completely useless puts it at least above average given how criminally ridiculous procurement is now. we made two types of LCS that both had to be entirely scrapped and then engineered the insanely expensive barely reliable DDG-1000 around a laser weapons system than whoops we canceled it doesnt exist so now it has all these engineering compromises built around something it can’t actually do. So now our replacements for frigates AND destroyers are all broken, expensive, and stupid. The availability rates of the B and C models are so low I would put them in the same category as the other projects. The A is better but usually below 4th generation aircraft. I would say the f-35A is a tricky one too because so many air forces are replacing their aircraft with them and total availability is probably going to take a dive. Also, stealth besides countries don’t want to fly them into enemy air defenses has simply the drawback of payload which a long with availability is going to make airland battle much more difficult because the amount of damage possible is proportionately be far less. It is why it is potentially a crippling boondoggle for the entire West because so much emphasis has been put on air superiority but the f-35a just limits its potential usefulness by the amount of tonnage that can be dropped. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 08:35 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:the insanely expensive barely reliable DDG-1000 around a laser weapons system than whoops we canceled it doesnt exist so now it has all these engineering compromises built around something it can’t actually do. actually that was engineered around a 155mm guided shell that the navy didnt buy
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lol someone cut the internet cables in the red sea and the ww3 thread is stuck on the roman empire again https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/04/business/red-sea-cables-cut-internet/index.html
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Mandel Brotset posted:lol someone cut the internet cables in the red sea and the ww3 thread is stuck on the roman empire again https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/04/business/red-sea-cables-cut-internet/index.html Russia cut the cables to show that they could cut other cables if they wanted to
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gradenko_2000 posted:Russia cut the cables thank u I have no further questions
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:If you want an idea of why they were scared, the Iroquois were the dominant military power in North America for over a century once they started getting large number of guns. There was no central authority interdicting traders and lots of unscrupulous whalers in the area around New Zealand, so the Maori got lots of guns and steel weapons and tools, and became incredibly powerful, while almost destroying their society (and the British colonies) in wars. The Japanese went from matchlock muskets to the Zero in less than a hundred years. The Indians went from making war by clattering schellenbaum and reciting poetry or whatever before battle to the best soldiers in the world. Maori just got on a boat and went to Sydney to buy guns to kick off the musket wars. By the end traders were coming from Sydney, but we know a bunch about this from the Governor General of New South Wales' reports. I think they had pretty strong port controls for taxation purposes. Some more recent scholarship questions the degree to which Maori society was wrecked by the introduction of guns and suggests that sort of warfare was common before hand. This is a fairly long read on the gun trade to NZ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/aehr.12259 HouseofSuren posted:Have you read about Artorias? The Equites Dalmatae were from the Roman province of Dalmatia but not necessarily Dalmatae but they were probably at least Illyrian. Illyrian tribes are attested to in the area from the end of the 6th century BC which is before the supposed ethnogenis of the Sarmatians. I guess it is possible their numbers included men from the Iazyges who were a tribe of Sarmatians who settled north east of Roman Dalmatia.
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Tankbuster posted:You are saying King arthur was Serbian? Albanian. There's at least a theory that Albanians are Illyrians. DJJIB-DJDCT posted:We've been over this, there's a black powder shortage, because the US had a single factory producing it. It blew up and it took them a few years to get it back up and running
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Danann posted:I love the part where he praises the F-35 and shits on the choice to field hundreds of T-62s while building the other T-series in a land war. The Su-57 vs F-35 comparison on production speed is fun if you extend it to the J-20. If you recall, not that long ago there was an article arguing that the J-20 being produced much much faster than the F-35 is not important, because if the US had been producing more aircraft since the 2000s, China would not be catching up now, which means that them doing so right now does not count. 
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Weka posted:“Satia builds upon earlier work discussing the military revolution in Europe by Geoffrey Palmer, and the military-fiscal state first posited by John Brewer (Palmer, 1988). Brewer asserts that the British state in the eighteenth and nineteenth century greatly increased taxation and borrowing to facilitate its various wars, and that its expenditure at the time significantly dwarfed the private sector (Brewer, 1988). Satia argues that the connection between state, the military, and industry was the driving mechanism behind the industrial revolution in Britain (Satia, 2018). “ 
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:The Su-57 vs F-35 comparison on production speed is fun if you extend it to the J-20. If you recall, not that long ago there was an article arguing that the J-20 being produced much much faster than the F-35 is not important, because if the US had been producing more aircraft since the 2000s, China would not be catching up now, which means that them doing so right now does not count. Is there a word for this? It’s almost determinism but not quite. I see it all the time in military balance reports, “Russian shell production is (millions) but western industry could produce much more”. Okay? Well? Are they?
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