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Pablo Nergigante, skeleton warrior)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Sometimes "concern trolling" can be real but it is basically just an accusation that someone is talking in bad faith, which basically always derails any further discussion. ya its a refusal to engage with whats being said by implying that the real problem is anyone saying anything
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:12 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 13:26 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:God of War 2018 was such dogshit lol
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:13 |
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fondly remember the goon hating on Elden Ring because it doesn't tell you where to go when there is a glowing golden trail leading you to the major destination
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:13 |
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Endorph posted:cant you just include a button to press that points an arrow where you need to go fwankly i think a combo of not underestimating the player + more care over level/world desing bcos you arent thinking about falling back on metagame cues to direct people is a better option. but failing that the little line that moves in the direction you have to go and is obstacle aware is the clearest directional indicator
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:14 |
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pentyne posted:fondly remember the goon hating on Elden Ring because it doesn't tell you where to go when there is a glowing golden trail leading you to the major destination This is why goons need to touch grace
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:14 |
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Mordiceius posted:stux spends all day rubbing his rear end on every surface doomguy UGHN
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:15 |
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resetera getting furious at a woman gamer who beat Elden Ring with her feet, claiming she was mocking disabled people
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:16 |
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pentyne posted:fondly remember the goon hating on Elden Ring because it doesn't tell you where to go when there is a glowing golden trail leading you to the major destination all the er stuff was cool bcos in reality its just doing what games used to do to direct the player and it made people lose their minds lol
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:16 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:God of War 2018 was such dogshit lol
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Cranappleberry posted:doomguy UGHN Make em say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjnv_4zEBs na na na na
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:17 |
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Stux posted:this actually is hella stupid the more i think about it lol, the last part about challenging vs time consuming. often it overlaps a lot. a lot of challenging things by their nature take time to learn, or the challenge can be the difficulty of doing something well for a sustained period of time. some people just want shortcuts or prefer much sharper forms of difficulty which is completely acceptable and fine but talking about it like this like ppl who enjoy things that take a long time to learn and overcome are actually just liars and stupid and no one could genuinely want the thing i dont want is really annoying. thanks i dont want to go into a big tangent on this, but i think it just comes down to the type of game your designing. while i personally don't much care for breath of the wild, the freedom to climb any surface ever allows for the player to get to places however they please. no real need of signposting the only one path. but then if you had an open world game and ask a person to climb a mountain but they cant free climb and there's only one narrow spot where a button prompt appears to climb, that loving sucks if theres no signposting - hence why devs fall back to the yellow paint im all for challenge in navigation and puzzles and all that poo poo but finding the single spot where a "climb mountain" button prompt shows up isnt some challenge for the player to solve it is just a waste of time
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:17 |
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pentyne posted:resetera getting furious at a woman gamer who beat Elden Ring with her feet, claiming she was mocking disabled people She was and we applaud her for doing so.
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:18 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:What if you love yellow paint but hate disabled gamers...? yellow paint can be used to write words that disabled gamers hate onto cliffsides
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:18 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:She was and we applaud her for doing so. simple as
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:19 |
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Mordiceius posted:i dont want to go into a big tangent on this, but i think it just comes down to the type of game your designing. no one is saying no signposting its just that there are ways to do that without a literal signpost. but also i was more responding the last part of the post.
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:22 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:God of War 2018 was such dogshit lol
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:22 |
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Plant MONSTER. posted:make the whole game all yellow call of duty black ops coldplay
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:23 |
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but also even that can be fun in the right game. poking around levels in deus ex to find vents or other backdoors to locations is fun, and that game liked to do anti-signposting and hide them behind crates and stuff lol
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:24 |
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i think there's a weird midpoint where designers don't like explicit tutorialization which is why you get practices where the game tries to kinda hide tutorials under diagetic poo poo and that can feel strangely condescending
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:24 |
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pentyne posted:fondly remember the goon hating on Elden Ring because it doesn't tell you where to go when there is a glowing golden trail leading you to the major destination Yeah I prefer Xenoblade 1 and 2s system of look for an objective for 30 minutes and then give up and hope the quest isn’t important.
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:24 |
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gently caress yeah! I beat my first world boss in Remnant 2 on Hardcore/Nightmare difficulty 100% solo and got my crazy account-bound status effect ring. Winning combo was Handler as primary archetype and Medic as secondary. Whoever recommended Handler, thanks. The dog can stay alive long enough to draw aggro and get some distance between me and big enemies which was the deciding factor in one of the 3 boss fights I had to complete. I even had to fight one of the more annoying Yaesha bosses that I probably would have rerolled if I hadn't encountered it near the end of the level. Now I can finally put my crazy Archon/Ritualist DoT build together.
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:24 |
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Plant MONSTER. posted:make the whole game all yellow *nods* deus ex human revolution
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:24 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:God of War 2018 was such dogshit lol Many people are thinking this but few have the guts to say it
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:26 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Saw this posted on reddit lol how many times in the TDI-iverse do people post on the wrong accounts? why is every person he invents living under the same roof? do they all take turns on the family computer in the living room? i have only ever once in my life posted something on a friend’s account, intentionally, as an obvious joke. i cannot fathom the amount of times his family has done it accidentally. this is ignoring why would his dead gay daughter’s girlfriend give a poo poo about his discord channel anyway!!!!!!
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:26 |
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Literal Nazi Furry posted:yellow paint can be used to write words that disabled gamers hate onto cliffsides ALOY: This one's tough. If only my player wasn't a little qq skill issue bitch.
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:27 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:God of War 2018 was such dogshit lol Am I misremembering or was it well received at launch? Did luster fall off fast, or was it just poo poo
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:28 |
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the moment in gaming when i realized the occasional signpost may be something i desire
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:29 |
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he needed to invent a new character to take the heat as all of the other characters are cool protagonists and heroes, op
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:29 |
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Mordiceius posted:the moment in gaming when i realized the occasional signpost may be something i desire Have you tried equipping the "skill" materia
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:29 |
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Dandywalken posted:Am I misremembering or was it well received at launch? Did luster fall off fast, or was it just poo poo lots of people liked it, and ragnarok. they're wrong
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:29 |
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That DICK! posted:lots of people liked it, and ragnarok. they're wrong
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:30 |
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Mordiceius posted:the moment in gaming when i realized the occasional signpost may be something i desire I'm sorry this is where you got permanently stuck and unable to complete the original FF7. Game gets real good after this part.
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TheMightyBoops posted:Yeah I prefer Xenoblade 1 and 2s system of look for an objective for 30 minutes and then give up and hope the quest isn’t important. lol gently caress, you just unlocked a memory for me I 100% completed Xenoblade 1, all sidequests, max affinities, etc. On the drat 3ds version
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:31 |
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It's almost as hosed up and impossible a challenge as, the first freaking door, in fallout 2
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:32 |
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Stux posted:no one is saying no signposting its just that there are ways to do that without a literal signpost. but also i was more responding the last part of the post. yeah absolutely fair. side note - its also wild when you encounter someone who has zero sense of direction even with signposting. i have a buddy who will literally walk from one room into another in a game, spin the camera around and then get confused about which direction they came from. they can do fights and solve puzzles and such but ask them to backtrack or navigate from point a to point b and theyre completely useless. you might as well have asked them to solve quantum physics
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:32 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i think there's a weird midpoint where designers don't like explicit tutorialization which is why you get practices where the game tries to kinda hide tutorials under diagetic poo poo and that can feel strangely condescending i wish aaa game designers would unlearn putting step by step tutorials in every game. just let me skip all tutorials, like in cyberpunk 2077. get me to the action you fucks!!!!!!
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:32 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Have you tried equipping the "skill" materia sorry my materia slots are full with the "shitposting" and "navel-gazing" materias Note Block posted:I'm sorry this is where you got permanently stuck and unable to complete the original FF7. Game gets real good after this part. ff8 is better
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:33 |
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:lol gently caress, you just unlocked a memory for me Lol drat dude
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:33 |
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i love xenoblade 2, it's one of my favorite games but it's also one of those games that has so many systems and they try to keep it manageable by drip-feeding them to you over like the first 30 hours of the game, which makes replays a bummer
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# ? Mar 5, 2024 21:34 |
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its 2024 i know that i need to tilt the stick to move
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