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kiimo posted:He had three touchdowns in one game and the problem isn't he gets shoved off routes. The problem is he can't stay healthy He’s had 9 TDs in the other 20-something games he’s played. He has problems with physicality. He doesn’t play as big as he is and doesn’t really go over guys to get balls. Statistically he’s basically a less healthy Gabe Davis. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Personally, I would like to see AD Mitchell on the Chiefs. I think Mitchell is off the board way before the Chiefs pick, he basically CeeDee Lame Lite. CeeDee is significantly better coming out but body wise they are very comparable. Calidus fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Troy Franklin looked like poo poo at the combine so I’m hoping he drops to Tennessee now. I’ll be honest I need to dig into Xavier legette because with how great all the big names looked at the combine Tennessee might be picking between him and Franklin at 38 at this rate Callahan is gonna want a big body. Congrats on Johnny Wilson.
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Green Bay is trying to trade CWat. It'll probably take a 3rd or future 2nd-round pick. He can be so good, but his hammy's man.
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Play posted:Yeah I don't get the hate, it's just combining available testing numbers in one place and assigning a score. About as objective as it gets, just don't take it as gospel in terms of them being great players or some poo poo and you'll be fine. Giant Left Tackles rule. 6'9" Alejandro Villaneuva didn't even become a tackle until he he was almost 30, and for like 5 solid years, he was the best LT I'd ever seen on the Steelers
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Sneed was 6’, 192lbs and ran a 4.37. That pretty dam close to ideal DB size and speed.
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40 yard dash times for DBs are cool and all but I want times for backpeddling 10 yards.
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The only issue with that is not everyone does the Saban backpedal and a lot of DBs are starting to do the open body coverage against X receivers because the NFL is so much about quick passes now you can cheat deep route coverage.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Green Bay is trying to trade CWat. It'll probably take a 3rd or future 2nd-round pick. He can be so good, but his hammy's man. Why are they trying to trade him? Who else do they have at WR??
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EmbryoSteve posted:Why are they trying to trade him? Who else do they have at WR?? Reed Wicks Doubs Melton We will also most likely draft a WR. We have a type, but that type seems to be changing.
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https://x.com/BrettKollmann/status/1765278863918342216?s=20 Stock rising for Legette
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ET phone Rome Etc
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Rome is a very good WR and I’m grateful that he played on my college team. I wish him the best 
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Odunze, Rome is Burning (DBs)
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:Callahan is gonna want a big body. Congrats on Johnny Wilson. Lol. In all seriousness our current top two are DHop and fat huffy puffy treylon so I think we have plenty of big body. Just need speed
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The Chris Simms QB Rankings are out. https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1765428349738918041?s=20
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Diva Cupcake posted:The Chris Simms QB Rankings are out. Drake Maye is the Jordan Love of this draft. Get him somewhere where he can sit, and some QB coach can beat the hell out of his bad habits and mold him into a stud.
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His habits aren't even that bad lmao. He is the second best QB in this draft pretty easily. Jayden Daniels is being cosmically overrated lol.
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Jayden Daniels put up more all purpose yards than Burrow. He’s accurate, fast, plenty of arm strength, and most importantly stays calm under pressure. Drake sucks at throwing under pressure.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Jayden Daniels put up more all purpose yards than Burrow. Actual Production is whatever, especially considering he's playing with 2 FR WR's and a good offensive line. Things that Drake Maye definitely did not have. He does not stay calm under pressure. That man only throws the ball 50% of the time time when he faces pressure. Everything else is either a Sack or running the Ball. Has a ~25% pressure to sack rate(Fields was 24, Sam Howell was 27) if he faces any sort of actual pressure, he either runs or gets sacked half of the time, rather than trying to throw out of it. And his Deep ball is drastically overrated, as even when Nabers/BTJ were running past DB's on slot fades and go balls, he would often underthrow them, and put the ball in sub optimal positions. His arm is fine, but it's not anything special. I think JJ McCarthy has more like actual arm talent than he does. Also He's a 5th year starter, Burrow's one year explosion at least happened after only one year of starts. I could be wrong obviously as who the gently caress knows about QB drafting besides the Packers I guess, but man this Jayden Daniels thing just screams Zach Wilson to me. Dexo fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Daniels put up those numbers in the SEC; Zach Wilson was styling on midmajors during the COVID year.
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The other thing about his production was Brian Kelly was actively trying to get him the Heisman and left him in games that were well in hand in order to juice his numbers. I have no opinion on whether he's a better prospect than Maye or not though.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Daniels put up those numbers in the SEC; Zach Wilson was styling on midmajors during the COVID year. I mean yeah sure, I don't mean he's literally Zach Wilson, just someone screaming up draft boards after the season in a way that I personally just don't agree with. But hey could be wrong. who the gently caress knows.
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dphi posted:The other thing about his production was Brian Kelly was actively trying to get him the Heisman and left him in games that were well in hand in order to juice his numbers. I have no opinion on whether he's a better prospect than Maye or not though. That just shows how inferior a coach Brian Kelly is to Coach O, as he didn't need to pull such shenanigans to get Burrow a Heisman and the #1 pick.
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Jalen Carter owned Daniels' soul with one arm. Daniels needs to add 50 pounds and stop trying to truck linebackers
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Yearly reminder that Josh Allen loving sucked rear end vs Mountain West competition in college and none of us know poo poo
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Dexo posted:Actual Production is whatever, especially considering he's playing with 2 FR WR's and a good offensive line. Things that Drake Maye definitely did not have. Going back in time to read posts about Lamar Jackson.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Going back in time to read posts about Lamar Jackson. Yeah, Lamar Jackson was much much better and explosive runner/deep thrower, and he still had a lower Pressure to Sack Rate. Lamar Jackson also doesn't weigh 150 pounds, and is actually weirdly extremely good at avoiding getting hit despite running all the time. Dexo fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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Dexo posted:Yeah, Lamar Jackson was much much better and explosive runner/deep thrower, and he still had a lower Pressure to Sack Rate. Daniels is like 210. He averaged 11.7 yards per passing attempt. Which is 3 yards more than Lamar did in any season. He averaged a 8.4 yards per rush which is more than Lamar did in any season. He’s maybe the more explosive college player ever by numbers. He doesn’t have the sort distance quickness that Lamar does but he’s effortlessly fast and his highlight reel big hits are e because he invited contact which is a coaching issue. He showed plenty of times that he can run away from guys or get down to avoid contact if he wants to. He’s also been pretty durable. I’m not saying he’s Lamar but it’s pretty funny to see the same “he’s not a passer, he only looks to run, he’s not going to survive in the NFL” complaints aimed at another black QB only this time he had a 72% completion percentage and threw 40TDs to 4 ints.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Drake Maye is the Jordan Love of this draft. Get him somewhere where he can sit, and some QB coach can beat the hell out of his bad habits and mold him into a stud. I thought that was supposed to be JJ. Not that it will matter when he gets drafted by Denver or a post-Cousins Minnesota or something and has to start week 1
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I think Dexo is right about Daniels getting sacked a lot and not being that great under pressure. His deep ball being iffy isn't that fair though since I think he has a really quick release that's designed for darts down the middle. It's high and tight so he can deliver the quick hitting routes Brian Kelly loves. He throws pretty nice deep balls as long as it's 35-40 yard shots since he can absolutely hit those broken seam routes or sideline TD shots. It's just when he has to push it further than that is when Nabers and Thomas would have to hold up a bit for the ball. Not amazing like Maye or Williams but perfectly fine. He's a bit tentative on shorter routes and tends to hold the ball if he isn't seeing an intermediate route developing, but other than that I think he's a smart QB that looks for good shots. He's not like a McCarthy who has to have his hand held through every series.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:
I need you to trust that's not what my black rear end is doing lmao. Jayden Daniels Average Depth of Target was 8.7 8.0 8.6 8.2 10.5 His only year challenging defenses deep was this one where he had two rear end kicking WR's getting wide rear end open. His completion percentage also increased massively this year. I just really really would be more hesitant to trust the 5th year starter breakout year happening in tandem with a guy having the best receiving core in college and a badass offensive line in front of him. I could completely eat crow, wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong, but yeah when I watch Jayden Daniels I see Justin Fields but 15 pounds lighter, and albeit with a quicker release, less pure strength, but similar problems with the quick game and getting the ball out on time, and also far less willing to push the ball unless it's wide rear end open. He is very very good at taking care of the ball tho too. I dunno. I think he's a top prospect, but I just absolutely don't see him as a better prospect than Maye. Dexo fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Dexo posted:His only year challenging defenses deep was this one where he had two rear end kicking WR's getting wide rear end open. His completion percentage also increased massively this year. Definitely be skeptical of an LSU transfer QB having a breakout year after a middling college career up until that point, especially when paired with two top flight receivers. When has that ever worked out? Daniels is not without his issues but Drake Maye also has issues its just the team around him was kinda middling you can just hand wave and say “not his fault, needed better talent.” Daniels may bust (he sure as poo poo will if he goes to the Pats), but my argument has always been that Daniels was going to be a riser in the process because in a world where Anthony Richardson went 4th and Will Levis went in the second round you can’t count on teams defaulting to the big armed white guy. At least some teams out there are approaching the QB position differently and what he offers is tantalizing enough that it’s not an easy comparison and it’s facile to say that teams that don’t have Maye as the 2nd QB are clearly wrong.
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