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MadFriarAvelyn posted:It'll display brighter ends of the HDR spectrum eye searingly bright at times, especially compared to most other screens that support HDR, while still being able to display the darker parts of the image. Those "most other screens" weren't considered HDR screens until manufacturers complained that OLED et al had a piece of flair that they did not
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HDR video is supposed to follow a strict PQ EOTF, which means that if the video metadata says that a pixel is supposed to be X brightness, your display is supposed to display it at that exact brightness. Brighter HDR screens in theory just mean they can output a larger range of brightness, not that all content will be brighter. Phones are different though, and there's no way to have an 'accurate' setting. Brightness is set by the user, and you can absolutely blow out some retinas if the content is mastered to be way too bright and the brightness setting on your phone is set high.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:HDR video is supposed to follow a strict PQ EOTF, which means that if the video metadata says that a pixel is supposed to be X brightness, your display is supposed to display it at that exact brightness. Brighter HDR screens in theory just mean they can output a larger range of brightness, not that all content will be brighter. Phones are different though, and there's no way to have an 'accurate' setting. Brightness is set by the user, and you can absolutely blow out some retinas if the content is mastered to be way too bright and the brightness setting on your phone is set high. It's the lovely HDR equivalent of commercials being 20% louder than regular TV.
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Also, even though HDR content isn't inherently brighter than SDR, SDR content is almost never displayed as brightly as the brightest possible values allow, so you'll usually get areas of brightness in an HDR video that are much brighter than the SDR equivalent. It's a bit like saying "surround sound is louder than stereo" - not strictly true but in practice, it's probably moving more air a lot of the time.
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My iPhone set on auto brightness cranks up the brightness for HDR content and back down for SDR content so as far as I'm concerned I've been unfairly attacked for pointing out something that is 100% factually true: scrolling past HDR videos on TikTok blows out my retinas
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Does this video cause anyone's phone to crank up brightness as well? I've never seen an embedded one do that but whenever it's on screen, the brightness of the whole screen goes up.
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Mar 7, 2024 10:03
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I'm on my PC right now and my phone isn't HDR (such as it is) anyway but the white balance is blown the gently caress out on both my monitors
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Same. My phone remained the same brightness, while that video is the whitest video I've ever seen.
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mobby_6kl posted:Does this video cause anyone's phone to crank up brightness as well? I've never seen an embedded one do that but whenever it's on screen, the brightness of the whole screen goes up. im guessing your phones screen is bleeding into its ambient light sensor and messing up the auto brightness
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mobby_6kl posted:Does this video cause anyone's phone to crank up brightness as well? I've never seen an embedded one do that but whenever it's on screen, the brightness of the whole screen goes up. I have an iPhone XR (not hdr at all) and the video has a hosed up amount of saturation to me. It looks like sunburn in progress. The phone brightness didn’t budge at all.
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mobby_6kl posted:Does this video cause anyone's phone to crank up brightness as well? I've never seen an embedded one do that but whenever it's on screen, the brightness of the whole screen goes up. on my phone it's more or less fine on my macbook that video could guide sailors to shore on a foggy night
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UHD posted:on my macbook that video could guide sailors to shore on a foggy night Yeah I can swap it from my non-HDR monitor to my macbook screen and the difference is ridiculous
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in other tech youtuber news, gamers nexus have started using kryosheet paper to reduce variability in results with thermal paste. pretty cool that it's viable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHKCjuYTVQ
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Three Olives posted:Been there for years with me cooking several times a week without issue. I live in a house from the 1940s, if there was another place where I could put it when I am cooking I would, alas, they didn't put large open kitchens in street car suburbs in the 40s. You like watching the news when cooking dinner ok.... but what is the kinect for?
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kliras posted:in other tech youtuber news, gamers nexus have started using kryosheet paper to reduce variability in results with thermal paste. pretty cool that it's viable Yay! New Fractal case to drool over.
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mobby_6kl posted:Does this video cause anyone's phone to crank up brightness as well? I've never seen an embedded one do that but whenever it's on screen, the brightness of the whole screen goes up. On my M1 MacBook Air at about half brightness when this scrolled into view my Mac cranked up the backlight but also made everything else dimmer to compensate. It was pretty subtle and i didn't really notice what it was doing at first. I'm pretty sure this screen isn't a true HDR screen as if the brightness is already all the way up the video doesn't look any brighter then the rest of the display. Still that's a cool trick.
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Jiro posted:Yay! New Fractal case to drool over. Going for the mesh side panel, loading it up with 140mm noctuas, spending more on my case and fans than my motherboard and cpu
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I have that case without the transparent side panel. It owns. Especially without a dumb transparent side panel.
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Internet Old One posted:You like watching the news when cooking dinner ok.... but what is the kinect for? It's a normal webcam? But it is there for video calling our parents from a casual environment like we would hang out in our kitchens with them before COVID and there was no reason to remove it after we could see them in person again since they don't live anywhere close to us. I dunno what to say, I still have Logitech PTZ conference cams set up in my living room and den TVs, COVID video calls with my friends and family were a lot better experienced hanging out eye level in our kitchen or sitting on a sofa on a large display than than in my office where I had unending work video conferences. COVID was weird, man, I don't know what to say, we were all just trying to cope.
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aeiou posted:On my M1 MacBook Air at about half brightness when this scrolled into view my Mac cranked up the backlight but also made everything else dimmer to compensate. It was pretty subtle and i didn't really notice what it was doing at first. I'm pretty sure this screen isn't a true HDR screen as if the brightness is already all the way up the video doesn't look any brighter then the rest of the display. Still that's a cool trick. Yeah, Airs don't have true HDR displays, that's reserved for the 14" and 16" MacBook Pro. The 14/16 MBPs have a grid of about 10000 mini-LED backlights to provide local dimming or local super-brightness. To be honest this still produces an effect similar to what you describe, because our perception of what is white, light gray, dark gray, or black is far more context dependent than you might think - the checker shadow illusion is a good demonstration. I use my 16" MBP in light mode, so all the UI elements are white or close to white, but when I open a HDR video in a window and it shows my eyes something massively brighter than the former brightest white, well, all that old bright stuff suddenly looks dim and gray.
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kirbysuperstar posted:I'm on my PC right now and my phone isn't HDR (such as it is) anyway but the white balance is blown the gently caress out on both my monitors repiv posted:im guessing your phones screen is bleeding into its ambient light sensor and messing up the auto brightness I don't think so! https://i.imgur.com/miB4l7U.mp4 The phone does support HDR so I guess it's trying to do this, but it still looks like crap. And it increases the brightness a bit but not to like daylight levels. Weird stuff.
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mobby_6kl posted:On the PC it doesn't do anything other than look like overcompressed poo poo with a weird contrast curve. The bird isn't completely blown out but there seems to be few details there. Tried it on my phone and the embedded video itself gets crazy bright with the rest of the screen dim. It's weird cause the brightness of the video slowly fades in. Does your phone have an OLED or LCD screen?
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yeah if it's an LCD screen it could be the Worlds Shittiest HDR Implementation where they just make the entire backlight brighter when bright HDR content is being displayed
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I realized while watching Disney+ on my iPad mini that even though it technically supports Dolby Vision (or some HDR spec at least), it does so by dynamically adjusting the 'exposure' based on the ambient light sensor like those old aperture-based faux HDR implementations in video games, which has got to be the dumbest possible implementation of HDR video I've ever seen. It's nothing to do with the system auto brightness stuff (which is turned off) either. The only way I could figure out to get it to stop is to set the iPad to Low Power mode which forces it into SDR. Suddenly I could actually see the dark scenes, instead of it dynamically adjusting to make sure I couldn't see anything no matter the ambient light level. Unless you have an OLED screen or a really high quality backlit LCD/LED screen with tons of dimming zones that can accurately represent the data that HDR encodes, it's just overall a worse experience.
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BobHoward posted:the checker shadow illusion is a good demonstration
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Watched a YouTube on a timeline of all the things that went bad at Rooster Teeth following their closing down and wow, what a lovely place to work. I used to enjoy the Funhaus stuff but finding out Kovic was a huge perv is kinda  Not tech per se I guess
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This might be the right thread but maybe not, idk How can I make a YouTube playlist (I can program if need be) of all of a channel’s (non-short preferably) videos from oldest to newest? It needs to be a playlist because that’s how I’d watch it on my Xbox one YouTube app. Is there an api or search trick or something? I’ve always found it to be annoying that you couldn’t just find a channel you like and then binge watch every video they put out starting from the oldest
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Getting access to YouTube Data API v3 through the developers console is a loving nightmare, but I'm pretty sure you can do it through that. Best way I've found of interacting with YouTube is through RSS - because while it moved from one feed for the subscriptions to being per-channel, it still works, remarkably enough.
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Prescription Combs posted:Tried it on my phone and the embedded video itself gets crazy bright with the rest of the screen dim. It's weird cause the brightness of the video slowly fades in. Does your phone have an OLED or LCD screen?
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mobby_6kl posted:It's an OLED S22 Ultra. HDR works fine in the youtube app for example. This would too probably if it wasn't a garbage video, but still strange that it increases the overall screen brightness rather than just the video. Maybe a Samsung or browser thing, what browser were you using? I tried on a Pixel 8 in Chrome.
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Volte posted:I realized while watching Disney+ on my iPad mini that even though it technically supports Dolby Vision (or some HDR spec at least), it does so by dynamically adjusting the 'exposure' based on the ambient light sensor like those old aperture-based faux HDR implementations in video games, which has got to be the dumbest possible implementation of HDR video I've ever seen. It's nothing to do with the system auto brightness stuff (which is turned off) either. The only way I could figure out to get it to stop is to set the iPad to Low Power mode which forces it into SDR. Suddenly I could actually see the dark scenes, instead of it dynamically adjusting to make sure I couldn't see anything no matter the ambient light level. oh im sure these issues will eventually get fixed but who really gives a poo poo about HDR to begin with
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Palladium posted:oh im sure these issues will eventually get fixed but who really gives a poo poo about HDR to begin with
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Volte posted:On a good screen, HDR is probably the biggest upgrade of all time as far as image quality. Seriously, I don't think I can ever get a non-OLED screen again on anything I intend to play video games or watch movies on. 
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Palladium posted:oh im sure these issues will eventually get fixed but who really gives a poo poo about HDR to begin with what
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I mean it does look good but yeah, who cares tbh It's a phone, watch your porn and be on with your day. No need to see it in hdr. 
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Prescription Combs posted:Maybe a Samsung or browser thing, what browser were you using? I tried on a Pixel 8 in Chrome. repiv posted:i have an S23+ and it doesn't do that, at least in the awful app So maybe I got Googled?
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