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It's the one actually called Sonic 4 and we have to live with that fact.
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 06:32 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 10:00 |
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Also Sonic & Knuckles is technically just the second half of Sonic 3 they wound up releasing separately (and with Fang back in the picture now I’d argue Triple Trouble is technically a mainline game now) Speaking of, IDW recently put out the first two issues of a Fang miniseries that teams him up with Bean and Bark from Fighters (though the latter is apparently mute for some reason). Seems decent so far
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 06:41 |
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Bark being mute is a holdover from Archie
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 06:52 |
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Nodosaur posted:Bark being mute is a holdover from Archie What was their excuse for him not talking then?
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 06:57 |
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I will be the tourist: why is Sonic 3 the Chaotic Evil Sonic 4? Or is that in of itself?
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 07:00 |
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Unlucky7 posted:I will be the tourist: why is Sonic 3 the Chaotic Evil Sonic 4? Or is that in of itself? because Sonic cd exists
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 07:06 |
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Larryb posted:What was their excuse for him not talking then? He just doesn't. He's just a quiet guy
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 07:06 |
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Unlucky7 posted:I will be the tourist: why is Sonic 3 the Chaotic Evil Sonic 4? Or is that in of itself?
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 07:11 |
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Sonic Superstars shouldn't be on this, there is no world where it counts and Sonic Mania does not, making it Sonic 5 at least. I'd say combine that with how every game in "good" is good and 2/3 of the games under "evil" are mediocre at best, and move Sonic Advance to Neutral Good, Sonic 3 to Chaotic Good, and then I have no idea what goes under Chaotic Evil now. Looking at release dates, Sonic Chaos is the 4th Sonic game to not share a number, maybe that? Alternatively a clone or fangame could go somewhere.
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 08:35 |
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Sonic Generations is the first non-spinoff game after S3&K to feature Classic Sonic
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 09:01 |
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Sonic Adventure is probably the right answer here, but otherwise Advance 1 - it's the same style of gameplay and music and adds an extra character. The chaotic evil option should be Knuckles Chaotix. Captain France posted:Alternatively a clone or fangame could go somewhere. If we're going this route then Triple Trouble 16-bit for sure.
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 09:25 |
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Augus posted:because Sonic cd exists Hogama posted:It's the fourth "new" console title release, after Sonic 1, Sonic 2, and Sonic CD. The logic here is that it's called Sonic 3 but is Sonic 4, thus not following "order" (chaotic) and being incorrectly numbered (evil). Oh, I completely forgot about that game
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 09:31 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Sonic Adventure is probably the right answer here, but otherwise Advance 1 - it's the same style of gameplay and music and adds an extra character. Sonic Robo Blast 2 is Classic themed and originally released before Sonic Adventure so it's got an argument too, but I forgot about Chaotix. Knuckles Chaotix fits Chaotic Evil there perfectly and is the correct inclusion.
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 10:02 |
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Captain France posted:Sonic Robo Blast 2 is Classic themed and originally released before Sonic Adventure so it's got an argument too, but I forgot about Chaotix. Robo Blast is a fan game though and therefore doesn’t really count (still good however)
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# ? Mar 7, 2024 13:52 |
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Don't link SiIvagunner too often, but this video from today made me smile for the audacity of the combo, and it not being too bad, actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQNaum0y6bo Sonic Spinball Options music arranged with Sonic 4 Episode I's instruments.
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 02:02 |
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Olive garden guy played the bad guy on season 3 of justified so I think he could pull off being evil in sonic 3
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 05:41 |
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If Half Life 2: Episodes 1 and 2 are not the same game as Half Life 2, then Sonic 4: Episodes 1 and 2 aren’t Sonic 4 either.
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 17:07 |
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Apparently a new mobile game is in the works: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/03/leaked-trailer-for-sonics-new-mobile-game-gives-off-major-fall-guys-vibes Edit: Sega's deleted the leaked video it seems Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Trailer for the above: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7jcJN5S33WE
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 23:14 |
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I love Fall Guys, so a Sonic Battle Royale would be very special to me.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 21:06 |
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Midori, the person who leaked Sonic Toys Party a few months ago, also mentioned a Sonic soccer game for Apple Arcade, a Chao game called Sonic Chao Guardians for Netflix, and is now backing up a rumor of a Sonic Heroes remake. Of course this is all unconfirmed, but I think their track record seems pretty good so far.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 03:37 |
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Why remake Heroes and not Adventure 1 or 2? Its so silly it has to be true
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 03:40 |
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I’m guessing the reasoning is that it’s easier to remake than the Adventure games and isn’t on modern platforms yet. Otherwise I have no idea. Hopefully they make it not suck this time around.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 03:43 |
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Speaking of remakes, there haven’t been any further updates on the upcoming Generations one have there?
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 03:43 |
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Remaking Heroes would be about the same level of “out of left field” as the Skyward Sword remaster, so it’s definitely happening
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:15 |
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Yeah, Adventure and 2 are in a pretty good position on PC. Not as-sold, but they can be modded into a pretty solid state. Heroes isn't even being sold, and the PC version that exists is in a hell of a state even compared to the console version. It would need some kind of work for them releasing it to not be loving embarrassing E: That is, the as sold state of Adventure is also embarrassing, but it's an old embarrassment and the community has sort of learned to deal with it.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:23 |
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:Midori, the person who leaked Sonic Toys Party a few months ago, also mentioned a Sonic soccer game for Apple Arcade, a Chao game called Sonic Chao Guardians for Netflix, and is now backing up a rumor of a Sonic Heroes remake. Of course this is all unconfirmed, but I think their track record seems pretty good so far. Tbh there's been a lot of rumors since forever where someone gets one thing right, and then says a lot of other stuff that's wrong, even within the history of people leaking Sonic game stuff. So I wouldn't hold my breath on this (is anyone holding their breath for a Sonic Heroes remake?). Honestly I kinda figured they're next big thing would be some Frontiers sequel or other open-zone game after the success of Frontiers.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:34 |
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I'm holding my breath for a Sonic Heroes remake. That game deserved better, it owns
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:38 |
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It owns the title of worst 3d sonic, yeah
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:41 |
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I could see a port/remaster to get it on modern consoles, but a full-blown remake seems like a lot of effort for such a mid game
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:53 |
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So apparently there was a bit of a misunderstanding with the Heroes remake. Midori (Toy Party leaker), posted that they had heard Sonic Heroes is one of several titles being considered for a UE5 remake to help get Sonic Team familiar with the engine. This came after a fake leaker called Zippo (who’s been “leaking” fake Sonic stuff for years now) said there’d be a Heroes remake in 2026, and apparently the two claims got conflated and stuff led to Midori quitting.Ventana posted:Tbh there's been a lot of rumors since forever where someone gets one thing right, and then says a lot of other stuff that's wrong, even within the history of people leaking Sonic game stuff. So I wouldn't hold my breath on this (is anyone holding their breath for a Sonic Heroes remake?). This specific leaker is (well, was) legit. They leaked P3R and SMTV Vengeance as well as Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio’s gameplay beforehand as well.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 05:06 |
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Zippo is a clout-chasing dumbass and also apparently an rear end in a top hat. Nobody should ever listen to anything he claims, even when he happens to be right by chance.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 05:15 |
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I feel like moving to UE5 would be a positive step for Sonic team not because of anything the engine can do in particular but because Sonic games really don't need a custom engine and using a premade engine should hopefully mean quicker dev times or less buggy games or both. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic but I remember scratching my head at the emphasis that was placed on the HEDGEHOG ENGINE back in the '06 days and being like wait what is so special about this engine? I'd play a Heroes remaster, hell I'd play any remaster if I'm being honest, but I'm more interested in the idea of them switching to an off the shelf engine than in Heroes itself. I wonder if UE5 would have helped the godawful pop in on Frontiers too.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 05:16 |
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They should remake 2006 and also add it to xbox backwards compatibility
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 05:17 |
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Wasn’t there a leaked “five-year plan” document that accurately called several things released recently (open-world game, second movie, new 2d game) that also included remakes of the Adventure games in the next few years? I could definitely see them remaking one or both of those in UE5
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 05:38 |
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Larryb posted:Trailer for the above: Why won't that Sonic 4 music go away
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 06:18 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Why won't that Sonic 4 music go away Because nobody played it they can keep reusing the music.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 06:27 |
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Wasn't Sonic heroes the best selling 3d game before Frontiers? It kind of makes sense to remake it actually imo. It has a lot of fun level themes, and isn't regarded as a classic so improving things wouldn't be seen as sacrilege
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 12:26 |
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hatty posted:Why remake Heroes and not Adventure 1 or 2? Its so silly it has to be true The people want Chao Gardens and it's really important for Sega to not give people Chao Gardens.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 12:39 |
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Skeletome posted:Wasn't Sonic heroes the best selling 3d game before Frontiers? It was, but a lot of that was because it was a three-console-plus-PC release in the series heyday.
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