Turin Turambar posted:

It's funny because all the attention is being given to the nerf of a few weapons, but the the armor fix (so people now can't run light armor without the protection rating penalty) is one of the key things that is making the game a bit harder than before.

Turin Turambar posted:

The whole 'focus on a single limb to kill this alien bug' is weird and gamey, you would think that hitting the limbs is the thing you should avoid, because they are persistent critters that still can advance and kill you even after losing one or two legs. It would be thematic.
I think in reality it was done for technical reasons, they didn't want to make new move and attack animations for every drat enemy in the game (and it would be even more work, because the animations would be different depending on the limb removed!) so they decided the 'removing 1 limb = instadeath' rule .

In fact the bug that still can move for some seconds without a head is indicative of that, they could do that because the animations don't have to change depending if its had the head 'on' or was removed.

SplitSoul posted:

I had imagined armor rating not working before just treated everything like medium as a baseline or something.

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

Running 3 or even 4 eagle strategems is secretly really powerful. Who needs a railgun?

Astrochicken posted:

The discord was in a state earlier. Mods had to enable slowdown mode because too many people were lashing out in chat. And so for a while everybody was sending single message multiparagraph screeds. They'd scroll up unread in seconds.

Flint_Paper posted:

Weirdly, when I (after once again doing loving NOTHING so I could call in my remaining teammate) got to the objective, neither of us could trigger the final stage of the mission. We'd done most of the button presses, but the interact button just wouldn't appear for the final stage.

Eventually the timer ticked down, so we extracted with a bunch of (super) samples and failed the mission, but what a weird bug.

municipal shrimp posted:

Why not just come play with us instead? I haven't been in a single bad game (that's our fault) with goons since launch

Sindai posted:

Randomly being unable to interact with stuff seems to be a new(?) and exciting bug. Had a game where I couldn't pick up credits/medals in a bunker or open a bonus pod no matter how many times I saluted at it. Other players had no issue.

Flint_Paper posted:

I've got a bunch of goons on m friends list, and I've had nothing but grand times with them, but I think the majority are based in the states so it's slim pickings when it's game time in good old Blighty.

drrockso20 posted:

Ironically the current slow mode restrictions(2 minutes between posts) are a lot less brutal than they were just a couple days ago(5 minutes)

Alkydere posted:

Personal order: kill 2 bile titans.

Took the Spear to a Haz 6 geological survey mission. I think there were nearly 10 by the end so yeah, I got that done. Spear lockon is hella jank be but when it works it works. Of course it also has a minimum range where it will just yeet itself over a charger and into the ground behind it.

I think I sold someone on it because I called down a second to resupply myself and someone else picked up my original kit and went on with it.

Hecking hectic extraction with a meteor shower coming down right in our landing. Also, gee thanks Super Destroyer. I really wanted that orbital railcannon shot to reduce a hive commander to grease and not the charger.

Musluk posted:

hey mom its 420 posted:

keeps heavily armored enemies capped at a certain number? idk

hey mom its 420 posted:

While 8 and 9 could be harder to clear maybe, the main issue IMO is what the experience looks like when you do clear them. 8 is fine for me, but on 9 (speaking to bug missions, bots are fine imo), it involves mostly just kiting and running away to survive. Not sure if that's the play pattern they're going for on the higher missions. But when you're waiting for the extraction and the game spawns five chargers and three bile titans, you don't really have enough in your arsenal to handle them, so you're just forced to run away constantly and hope to survive.

Not sure how they can fix that from a game design perspective. I understand that you'll have to do more moving and kiting on the higher difficulties, but there has to be some sort of middle ground. Maybe spawn more trash mobs that you can clear while the game director keeps heavily armored enemies capped at a certain number? idk

hey mom its 420 posted:

Could be. My guess is that they don't actually want that, but that they're finding it very hard to design the game experience for higher difficulties without it devolving into a benny hill episode. Seems like a tough one to crack, hope they find a way

Banjo Bones posted:

Heard they buffed the laser cannon special weapon and was excited to try out my lazer boi build. Dismayed to see it just bounces impotently off bile titans. Even their big green belly, doesn't seem to do much. Think lasers are cool. Would like if they made them make bigger zaps.

Arianya posted:

I've not tried it against bile titans specifically (my reflex now is to just drop a 500 kg on them as soon as I see one), but the laser cannon is kinda godly at mopping up medium-tier things now - granted playing on a cold planet, but it was great for popping the puke bugs from a distance as well as thinning out the tanky hive guard bugs.

I've not tried it on bots yet, but the medium penetration presumably makes it really good since it means it'll kill most things and be usable for stripping limbs off hulks.

hey mom its 420 posted:

You often get swarmed on the objectives, and if not that, then definitely when you're waiting 4 minutes at the extraction point. that, and the missions with the small maps.

hey mom its 420 posted:

I wonder if they could take some cues from Risk of Rain 2. that game has excellent difficulty progression imo and similar to helldivers in many ways. the main difference is that it's a roguelike so you keep getting stronger all the time

hey mom its 420 posted:

I wonder if they could take some cues from Risk of Rain 2. that game has excellent difficulty progression imo and similar to helldivers in many ways. the main difference is that it's a roguelike so you keep getting stronger all the time

hey mom its 420 posted:

While 8 and 9 could be harder to clear maybe, the main issue IMO is what the experience looks like when you do clear them. 8 is fine for me, but on 9 (speaking to bug missions, bots are fine imo), it involves mostly just kiting and running away to survive.

Musluk posted:

Friend of mine just jukes titan pukes and *then* throws a 500 kilo at them, since they take forever to recover from the animation. Worked well in 8's earlier.

Turin Turambar posted:

It's funny because all the attention is being given to the nerf of a few weapons, but the the armor fix (so people now can't run light armor without the protection rating penalty) is one of the key things that is making the game a bit harder than before.

flashman posted:

Rocket pods do work against the titans too and are much easier to use against chargers so we've found its more effective to avoid everyone taking the 500.

Two sets of pods one set of 500kg and a dedicated anti tank backpack user (been enjoying the spear alot since the ammo pick up changes) has been plenty to take care of the number of chargers/titans we've seen at 9. You've got airburst, cluster bomb, lasers, or w.e for the hordes if you get bogged down / extraction.

Objectives like the eggs the new orbital barrages have been quite effective and alot of times you don't even need to get handy to the objective to clear it. Bit of a long cd and not great at the battles on point unless you've got the mega throw armor on though.