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It would have to be a pretty small ship. More of a boat.
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Mar 6, 2024 22:26
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mobby_6kl posted:Why conflicted? Trump would be dead and there'd be a great excuse to gently caress russia up finally.
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Mar 6, 2024 22:35
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Imagine being a 25+ years of experience A-50 pilot who has every certification possible and more hours logged behind the yoke than an entire genus of certain oxen and yet here you are naked and crammed into a freezing basement, being beaten with strips of old tire tread by a colossus Wagnerite holdover just because your colleagues were shot down twice. Makes you think.
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Mar 6, 2024 22:35
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spankmeister posted:It would have to be a pretty small ship. More of a boat. I figured that was also part of the deal. Would be effective in taking out the bridge though, while the rest of the ship is trying to plug the giant holes getting blown into it. Just a little something extra, ya know?
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Mar 6, 2024 22:42
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Flyinglemur posted:Here is an incoming dumb question from a guy with the wrong military qualifications, but uh...Javelins (shoulder fired, thank you very much) aren't good against ships because of range? wrong kind of explosion. only works above the waterline
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Mar 6, 2024 23:19
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Javelins have a small amount of explosive, but they are very good at making a small hole through thick steel. On a ship, it makes a small hole and fucks up some of the stuff behind the wall, but it's really not that big of a deal. Ships are huge and have lots of redundancies. For ships, you don't need armour piercing, you just need a big delivery of explosives.
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Mar 6, 2024 23:46
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Flyinglemur posted:Here is an incoming dumb question from a guy with the wrong military qualifications, but uh...Javelins (shoulder fired, thank you very much) aren't good against ships because of range? The above is a pretty good explanation but think of a ship as a building. You can fire a Javelin and maybe kinda gently caress up a room and the people in it, but the rest of the building is going to be pretty okay. You need high explosives or a lot of Javelins if you want to make it collapse.
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Mar 6, 2024 23:57
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Thanks everyone. I have a decent understanding of ships and how they work, I wasn't sure about the range and hadn't considered the size of the warhead. Also lol at myself... The Ukrainian Navy seems to be doing just fine without needing any "tricks" Before you say they don't have a Navy, whatever is responsible for those radio control boom boats are doing God's Work out there
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Mar 7, 2024 02:36
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I'd imagine something like a javelin would work well if it hit somewhere where there already was explosives, say one of those giant missiles stored on deck in a tube e.g. the Moskva, or one of those revolver like cruise missile batteries that hung below its deck.
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Mar 7, 2024 02:45
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Commodore_64 posted:I'd imagine something like a javelin would work well if it hit somewhere where there already was explosives, say one of those giant missiles stored on deck in a tube e.g. the Moskva, or one of those revolver like cruise missile batteries that hung below its deck. That'd probably be a pure luck shot. Not impossible technically but not worth playing lotto odds in wartime over either. You'd also have to be pretty close to pull it off since Javelins aren't terribly far range and these ships like to stay 20km+ off the coast.
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Mar 7, 2024 02:51
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:That'd probably be a pure luck shot. Ukraine drained some amazing Stugna-P shots at the beginning of the war, and the last ship was close enough to be filmed with a cell phone. Ofc the issue is getting a Stugna in place in an occupied port, let alone the multiple it would probably take. the drone-boats seem like a sure thing, and they seemingly do enough damage that the wreck is irrecoverable.
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Mar 7, 2024 03:03
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Commodore_64 posted:I'd imagine something like a javelin would work well if it hit somewhere where there already was explosives, say one of those giant missiles stored on deck in a tube e.g. the Moskva, or one of those revolver like cruise missile batteries that hung below its deck. by the time you’re that close there are many better, cheaper options available
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Mar 7, 2024 03:13
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Vampire Panties posted:Ukraine drained some amazing Stugna-P shots at the beginning of the war As TM said when you're close enough that a Javelin could work other cheaper and better options become available. You might as well just mortar them.
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Mar 7, 2024 03:28
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France signing a defense pact with Moldova An entente per se
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Mar 7, 2024 06:24
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1765511460422132011#m
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Mar 7, 2024 06:38
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:France signing a defense pact with Moldova the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce
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Mar 7, 2024 06:39
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The last vid in this post has sound. This is the drone attack on the Russian ship from the defenders pov. https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1765431870857081194?s=61&t=cK-O-sPHJKlj2raA6gLbuw
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Mar 7, 2024 06:41
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Get ruptured, idiot.
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Mar 7, 2024 07:03
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Disco Pope posted:This "not touching you" intimidation/temper tantrum throwing is par for the course with state visits and is really quite pathetic. Seeing footage of russian "prescision" strikes, their weapons usually miss by a few hundred meters. This wasn't "im not touching you" but a genuine assassination attempt turned into a 6d chess move thanks to incompetence of russian guidance systems..
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Mar 7, 2024 07:35
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"The crew left the ship using life rafts, without loss of personnel, and evacuated all secret documentation and part of the secret equipment with weapons." A crucial bit of heroic bravery to deny Ukraine the secret documentation they had hoped to grab from a sunken ship just off the Crimean coast. Those secrets would have crippled the Russian war effort, especially of combined with the secret equipment on this 40 year old ship.
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Mar 7, 2024 08:28
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:France signing a defense pact with Moldova Opettaja, opettaja - Voor Kraim Kikolo sanoi "perse"!
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Mar 7, 2024 09:20
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They're getting leftovers from the Cold War, so why not leftovers from the pandemic? I suppose the pandemic is also the only reason why the Russian military has such a surplus of body bags.
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Mar 7, 2024 09:42
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CeeJee posted:A crucial bit of heroic bravery to deny Ukraine the secret documentation they had hoped to grab from a sunken ship just off the Crimean coast. Those secrets would have crippled the Russian war effort, especially of combined with the secret equipment on this 40 year old ship.
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Mar 7, 2024 09:45
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I'm sure the alcohol in the sanitizer is still good
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Mar 7, 2024 10:25
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CeeJee posted:"The crew left the ship using life rafts, without loss of personnel, and evacuated all secret documentation and part of the secret equipment with weapons." Reminds me of the tank fire suppression tweet. No no these tanks don't catastrophically blow up, the russian crewmen just calmly exit the tank under no duress.
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Mar 7, 2024 10:33
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steinrokkan posted:I'm sure the alcohol in the sanitizer is still good I'd assume they'll be dried rags, the alcohol already sold and/or drunk at the factory.
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Mar 7, 2024 10:40
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steinrokkan posted:I'm sure the alcohol in the sanitizer is still good Unless they used methanol
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Mar 7, 2024 11:22
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Big rear end On Fire posted:The last vid in this post has sound. This is the drone attack on the Russian ship from the defenders pov. 
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Mar 7, 2024 11:32
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Subjunctive posted:That’s certainly consistent with the available evidence, but please also consider this wise perspective:
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Mar 7, 2024 11:50
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Well, on the upside they're set for either drinks or airplane fuel for the next few months at least.
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Mar 7, 2024 12:00
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Shoigu to top general: "Take 1 mil to send supplies to the front" Top general to logistics center: "You have 500k budget to supply the front" Moscow logistics official to a contractor: "Here is 200k for all your medical supplies plus for you to transport it to the front" Contractor to truck company: "here is 5k to get these 500 boxes of expired hand sanitizers to the front Truck company to rear echelons: here are the 250 boxes of disinfectants the front line guys needed urgently." Rear echelon to the front line units: "Here's *hick* a bout a hundo boxes filled with *Hick* new model of canteens"
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Mar 7, 2024 13:08
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Vampire Panties posted:Ukraine drained some amazing Stugna-P shots at the beginning of the war, and the last ship was close enough to be filmed with a cell phone. Ofc the issue is getting a Stugna in place in an occupied port, let alone the multiple it would probably take. A similar incident happened during the Falklands war, a patrol vessel got shot up by Royal Marines with LAW anti-tank weapons and a Carl Gustav recoilless rifle: https://militarymatters.online/military-history/the-day-marines-shot-a-warship-with-anti-tank-rockets/
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Mar 7, 2024 13:49
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Welcome to NATO, 
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Mar 7, 2024 15:51
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beer_war posted:Welcome to NATO, Navies Are Totally Overated
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Mar 7, 2024 17:08
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Mar 7, 2024 17:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGaucDp9Rls
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Mar 7, 2024 17:18
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Congratulations also to the Tsar Vladimir 'shitpants' Putin for making the joint defense treaty encompassing all Nordic countries a reality, his work really made an impact on the NATO expansions policies.
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Mar 7, 2024 18:30
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Seriously, if NATO really wanted to piss the Tsar off, they ought to send Poots a finely-crafted, hand-woven map of Europe, with the Baltic Sea renamed to NATO Lake.
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Mar 7, 2024 18:33
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lmao putin. What a colossal gently caress up for someone who wants to be a strongman. You're foreign policy is such a train wreck of failures.
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Mar 7, 2024 18:34
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Our dumbass bitcoiner from work watched the tuckern Carson interview and apparently found out about cool historical facts like "Russia actually wanted to join NATO but it was rejected so maybe its nato's fault if they feel bad 🤔"
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