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Insert name here posted:It's hard to judge the efficacy of the Spear missiles because it refuses to lock-on half the time lmao the scant few times I got the thing to lock on and then hit a charger, it blew its head off. that was really nice to see after getting 0 reaction every other time I’ve hit them with an “antitank” weapon besides maybe exposing a leg for small arms to later make them unceremoniously drop dead. I still think that level of power should be the norm for the EAT and RR, with the target definitely dying to a second antitank shot if it survives, just like it was in HD1.
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Waffle House posted:I'm so glad there's a game studio that loves its product and also tells the community to shut the gently caress up. The game balance at launch was inoffensive. Chris Roberts? Is that you?
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Cimber posted:Chris Roberts? Is that you? no!! *my spaceship flips itself upside-down trying to land and starts z-fighting with terrain*
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Insert name here posted:It's hard to judge the efficacy of the Spear missiles because it refuses to lock-on half the time lmao I managed to get a few more shots in, and against bots they seem decent. Two hits will take out a tank from any angle, and I'm pretty sure I managed to oneshot one to the back of the turret. Same for Hulks.
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I've been trying the autocannon turret for some anti-armor duties and throwing it far from the fighting on some elevated terrain but it seems to just get aggro'd by some little grunts and destroyed real fast, or a bile titan walks up and vomits on it.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I've been trying the autocannon turret for some anti-armor duties and throwing it far from the fighting on some elevated terrain but it seems to just get aggro'd by some little grunts and destroyed real fast, or a bile titan walks up and vomits on it. Pretty sure I have some footage somewhere of an autocannon sentry turning 90 degrees away from a titan to kill a scavenger next to me, ragdolling me in front of said titan and getting me killed (the titan killed the sentry right after)
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I've been trying the autocannon turret for some anti-armor duties and throwing it far from the fighting on some elevated terrain but it seems to just get aggro'd by some little grunts and destroyed real fast, or a bile titan walks up and vomits on it. For the purpose of killing big things the rocket turret actually prioritizes large targets first. That makes it a bit more useful. For machine gun and Gatling turrets throwing it up a hill a ways away works great because they can defend themselves. For the rocket and AC turrets I want to be up the hill next to it so I can defend it while it works and my teammates keep the mob occupied. Unless you are throwing it as a distraction so you can hoof it, they work great for that. Insert name here posted:Pretty sure I have some footage somewhere of an autocannon sentry turning 90 degrees away from a titan to kill a scavenger next to me, ragdolling me in front of said titan and getting me killed (the titan killed the sentry right after) BitBasher fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Owl Inspector posted:It would be nonsensical to tune the current challenge based on content that isn’t actually in the game yet so i don’t think they did that Not sure if you've noticed but this game leans super heavily into vibes, and doing that would have absolutely fit the vibes they are going for.
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Turrets work great until spawns happen behind you, then whoops! All friendly fire!
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Bland posted:For some reason people are constantly coming up with theories like this for this game and they're always dumb as poo poo lmao. Yeah deliberately making your players have a miserable time now so that they can enjoy a sense of relief at some unspecified point in the future is definitely a thing that people who want you to play their game would do, sure. The intended behaviour for all players is to try difficulty levels until you get to one thats too hard for you to enjoy and then play the last one you enjoyed. Its not intentionally making your players miserable to have that be true for even the most skilled players, any more than it for the players who arent as good.
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GlyphGryph posted:The intended behaviour for all players is to try difficulty levels until you get to one thats too hard for you to enjoy and then play the last one you enjoyed. Its not intentionally making your players miserable to have that be true for even the most skilled players, any more than it for the players who arent as good. my friends hear this and then complain that they can't get all the resources to get all the upgrades and man, you don't need those upgrades just have fun
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Like you can enjoy a game without ramping up difficulty above your player skill
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I don't really get the theory that 'mechs will be the secret sauce that makes 8 and 9 easier. If anything, I expect them to be completely useless on those difficulties, because unless the 'mechs are monstrously overpowered invincible death machines they're just going to be big slow targets that can't run away from the infinite waves of chargers and bile titans. They'll probably make 5s and 6s smooth as butter though. Third World Reagan posted:my friends hear this and then complain that they can't get all the resources to get all the upgrades I actually think making super samples only drop on 7+ was a contributing factor for why they're having this backlash, because wanting to get upgrades probably forced a bunch of people into doing high level stuff when they wouldn't have done so otherwise and now they're too proud to drop down now that it's harder.
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I imagine that like emplacements, the mechs will be called down on 8s and 9s specifically for the parts where you have to hold the area for a while and get in a big ol fight. But hey, we'll find out for sure soon!
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Third World Reagan posted:my friends hear this and then complain that they can't get all the resources to get all the upgrades Well apparently there were quite a lot of people who were having fun until they were informed that they were having fun the wrong way yesterday
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Eh you can't add a bunch of treadmill systems and then get mad when players want to progress. If they wanted it to be a pure vibes game they could have just made it more sandbox-esque and not need to unlock all this stuff. The obvious fun of the game is being a failure-cascade simulator or epic destruction game that creates memorable moments through their various gaming systems converging unexpectedly. Throwing XP & Samples & Req & Medals on top of that is obviously going to make players want to unlock that stuff. And if it wasn't intended to be unlocked yet they shouldn't be in the game yet.Kanos posted:I don't really get the theory that 'mechs will be the secret sauce that makes 8 and 9 easier. If anything, I expect them to be completely useless on those difficulties, because unless the 'mechs are monstrously overpowered invincible death machines they're just going to be big slow targets that can't run away from the infinite waves of chargers and bile titans. There is video of the mechs and they absolutely dumpster a bile titan in a couple of seconds. They look like a major force multiplier.
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Bland posted:Well apparently there were quite a lot of people who were having fun until they were informed that they were having fun the wrong way yesterday the safe mode nerf is the funniest thing because I talk to some high level players and their response was 'people use safe mode?' And then I watch people use the nerfed weapons and oh boy, nothing has majorly changed if you can aim.
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Treadmill systems? Who got mad that players wanted to progress? The discord mod or an actual developer?
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Calling it now, the attack on Tien Kwan is just a diversionary tactic while the bots prepare a push on Cyberstan. They threaten our new toys and every helldiver that isn't Creek-maddened is pulling out of their other engagements to deal with it. Lladre posted:My second mission I saw something interesting on the ground so I blew it up with a grenade. Did it look like this? (the metal thing, not the corpse, RIP that dude(ette)).  Those are malfunctioning, unexploded Hellbombs. Treat with Caution. 
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Third World Reagan posted:Treadmill systems? Who got mad that players wanted to progress? The discord mod or an actual developer? Me
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Did it look like this? (the metal thing, not the corpse, RIP that dude(ette)). Pro tip: If you're at the edge of the blast the shockwave will propel you 300 meters away headfirst and one time it knocked me into the super sample rock so ABEHB (always be exploding hell bombs) Third World Reagan posted:Treadmill systems? Who got mad that players wanted to progress? The discord mod or an actual developer? I mean you said your friends are complaining they want upgrades but you think they should just ignore them, and the devs apparently didn't want the super sample difficulties to be reliably challenged yet. Gamers have gamer brain and if you have a bunch of unlock systems prominently displayed in your game they're gonna wanna unlock them. That generates "fun" for some people (not me though, I have a monk-like temperament regarding super earthly desires) Jerkface fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Jerkface posted:There is video of the mechs and they absolutely dumpster a bile titan in a couple of seconds. They look like a major force multiplier. I have no doubt they can crush individual heavies, I'm more curious about how they'll hold up to the absolute nightmare spam of heavies you get on 8 and 9. Doesn't matter if you can melt a bile in 5 seconds if you're getting humped by three chargers while you're doing it.
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Triarii posted:Tried out the breaker post-nerf, still seems powerful to me Yeah the breaker is the prime example of a good nerf. 55 recoil is still pretty low for a non automatic (how I use it anyways) weapon. It's still solid, but it makes other primaries more valid at the same time. They didn't overdo it, which I think they may have done with the rail gun. I'd have preferred a nerf about half the severity of what they went with. A few other weapons really could've used a buff too, and heavy armor is not remotely good enough to replace super light armor in high diffs since taking hits is just not an acceptable strategy. However, extremely excited about the new warbond, gonna play now hope to see some of you out there raverrn posted:https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1765739308617519268?s=20 Dammit I'm not even finished with the current ones at level 33. Speaking of, should I get the breaker incendiary or the breaker spray and pray next? Yeah but in the white colored moon they were seriously indistinguishable, maybe the color could shift depending on planet. Phenotype posted:I have never once gotten any sort of acknowledgement that I finished the daily mission, even in the first week before they broke. I'd just return to the ship and see more medals in my total, but no popup or congratulations or anything. You can see it in the pause menu on ship, to check how many of whatever you still need to do or if you finished it.
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I hope the burst laser can actually down a small robot with a single burst to the chest guaranteed. AP assault rifle keeps letting me down when I expect the efficiency of an SMG against robots "Burst for you, burst for you, burst for-wait none of them are dead."
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Third World Reagan posted:the safe mode nerf is the funniest thing because I talk to some high level players and their response was 'people use safe mode?' Pretty sure most safe mode users do so because they don’t know about the weapon options menu. Arrowhead really needs to put switching weapon options into the tutorial. Goons talking about it is the only reason I found out about holding reload for the menu.
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Infinitum posted:Turrets work great until spawns happen behind you, then whoops! All friendly fire! The mortar is the most dangerous because it has basically 360 range and can hit anywhere.
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Play posted:Dammit I'm not even finished with the current ones at level 33. Speaking of, should I get the breaker incendiary or the breaker spray and pray next? I haven't tried the incendiary since the patch so I don't know if anything secretly changed with it but it was pretty meh the last time I tried it.
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Ulio posted:The mortar is the most dangerous because it has basically 360 range and can hit anywhere. It also appears to specifically target the enemy closest to civilians if you thought you'd be clever and throw it far away to cover your flank on escorts
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Play posted:Yeah the breaker is the prime example of a good nerf. 55 recoil is still pretty low for a non automatic (how I use it anyways) weapon. It's still solid, but it makes other primaries more valid at the same time. They didn't overdo it, which I think they may have done with the rail gun. I'd have preferred a nerf about half the severity of what they went with. Yea I experienced meteors on the moon in daylight mission and the indicators were impossible to see on ultra quality. I just avoided the area / used terrain to block the meteors. It might be better if the indicator was red or something brighter, though I don't care too much about that as it hurts enemies too so I'm fine risking it on low visabilty planets. Re: Buffs/Nerfs - I think that dev's statement about wanting to get a proper baseline before doing major adjustments is important to consider. So much stuff needs some love or their niche zone made stronger but getting some strong nerfs out the gate was probably not the move given community sentiment or at least it should have that "future adjustments will be made we just need good data" bolded bolded bolded on the patch notes.
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While I know us liberating the new planet will come with mechs, i really hope they do a "oh, the bots took some tech as well and now here is a new bot enemy variant, go gently caress it up with that new mech". I have such high hopes for what the devs can do now that the servers aren't actively melting into a puddle
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Jerkface posted:Re: Buffs/Nerfs - I think that dev's statement about wanting to get a proper baseline before doing major adjustments is important to consider. So much stuff needs some love or their niche zone made stronger but getting some strong nerfs out the gate was probably not the move given community sentiment or at least it should have that "future adjustments will be made we just need good data" bolded bolded bolded on the patch notes.
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One weapon I hope gets buffed is the MA rifle because I like running scout armor with lower detection range, a jetpack, and the rifle to get to high areas and take out priority targets for my team while they handle the smaller swarms but the damage against bigger enemies (not counting chargers since those are supposed to be literal tanks) is pretty lacking
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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:While I know us liberating the new planet will come with mechs, i really hope they do a "oh, the bots took some tech as well and now here is a new bot enemy variant, go gently caress it up with that new mech". I have such high hopes for what the devs can do now that the servers aren't actively melting into a puddle Give em giant Spider mech from Wild Wild West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHRtlXDOqOU
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