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Hadlock posted:Definitely not in the nautical insanity thread today; Honopu Beach is extremely limited access by law and native Hawaiian custom. Normally the only legal way to get there is by swimming. Having done part of that swim at Kalalau (the next beach up), the currently are swift, the surf perpetually high, and the water shallow. It’s a really poor area to get anything larger than a jet ski close to shore. Also, again as someone who has backpacked the Na Pali coast, gently caress them helicopters. From 1/2 hour after sunrise to 1/2 hour before sunset it was like being in Apocalypse Now.
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It has audio in this clip too, you just have to unmute it. If the helicopter is totaled they could probably just chop it up into smaller and lighter pieces right there.
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mobby_6kl posted:It has audio in this clip too, you just have to unmute it. Interesting because in the app I have audio controls but in the browser I don't unless I open it in new tab
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BonoMan posted:Interesting because in the app I have audio controls but in the browser I don't unless I open it in new tab Oh I think you have to use an extension or right-click to "show controls" manually
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Interesting that the pilot wasn't calling out on the radio at all. You'd think you'd want to let someone know when you're going down.
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aviate, navigate, communicate, i guess
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Yeah maybe, though I'd would've liked to be rescued asap I think 
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mobby_6kl posted:Yeah maybe, though I'd would've liked to be rescued asap I think Ya gotta figure a crash you’re going to get rescued from isn’t going to break the radios.
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tactlessbastard posted:Ya gotta figure a crash you’re going to get rescued from isn’t going to break the radios. Breaking the radio is one thing, maintaining line of sight to any _other_ radio is worse, especially down in that hole. But they could always raise some other helicopter flying past if the area is lousy with them I guess.
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They were also roughly half way through a one hour tour route, so even if they had been completely unable to communicate and somehow entirely out of view of any of the various craft operating around the island there'd presumably be people wondering where they were in around 30 minutes. Obviously that could still be too long if someone were critically injured, but for what ended up happening it doesn't seem like it would have been the worst thing.
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You also need to be alive after landing in order to be rescued, hence why those steps are in the order that they are.
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Cat Wings posted:Interesting that the pilot wasn't calling out on the radio at all. You'd think you'd want to let someone know when you're going down. How do you know he didn't?
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https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1765855107185275265 Boeing 
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Well, in this case, it’s more Boeing, Boeing, Boeing, boeing, boeing, boeing…
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Boeing following by a very loud "boing" on someone's car
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If only it was the sound of the stock prize so this nightmare can finally end
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That's 100% going to be on United's MX staff, not on Boeing.
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never park on the top deck
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Cat Wings posted:Interesting that the pilot wasn't calling out on the radio at all. You'd think you'd want to let someone know when you're going down. Think autorotation takes pretty much all of the attention & dexterity you got.
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PainterofCrap posted:Think autorotation takes pretty much all of the attention & dexterity you got. All the instagram reels I see of people autorotating make it look like it's a stroll through the park. This means it is super easy to do.
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especially from such low altitude in such confined terrain. dude had to land in an acre of "maybe die" surrounded by "definitely die" on three sides and "probably die" on the fourth
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I rode on that exact chopper some years ago. For our flight, the pilot was pretty clear on info we already knew, but good to hear, such as explaining this is a strictly VFR tour and absolutely no hunting for holes in the clouds or entering areas where he could see now but might close up. Could also tell when he went for general best speed to get past hazards and chop vs slowing a bit in more open areas to see things. For one area he had said he wanted to fly to during briefing, but there were spots of misty plumes, just a simple “not today” over comms and moved on.
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Good week for Aviation https://twitter.com/GageGoulding/status/1766109534592864356 
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The airplane fell off (the runway). That's not very typical.
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The Real Amethyst posted:Good week for Aviation Aviation expert says Boeing not to blame for lost tire, plane going off runway quote:Those instances are strictly airline maintenance issues. They are not Boeing issues,” Hamilton said of the tires coming off. “We don't know why the wheels came off, we just know they came off.
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boeing's tarnished their reputation so badly we have experts stating that 22 year old planes are in fact, in the hands of maintenance crews.
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I feel a lot of people are asking questions about these "Boeing not to blame" t-shirts
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The same aircraft as this: 
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"We don't know why the wheels came off" -Boeing, 2024
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mlmp08 posted:I rode on that exact chopper some years ago. For our flight, the pilot was pretty clear on info we already knew, but good to hear, such as explaining this is a strictly VFR tour and absolutely no hunting for holes in the clouds or entering areas where he could see now but might close up. Could also tell when he went for general best speed to get past hazards and chop vs slowing a bit in more open areas to see things. I went on a helicopter tour in Iceland that was surprisingly completely smooth despite there being a relatively low ceiling. I guess not all volcanos are alike. Despite the amazing views the main thing I remember is that I asked what they did in the winter and I was not prepared for the answer to be “medevacs in Kurdish Iraq”.
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hobbesmaster posted:I went on a helicopter tour in Iceland that was surprisingly completely smooth despite there being a relatively low ceiling. I guess not all volcanos are alike. Helicopters are much less affected by turbulence, compared to seized wings.
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Zero One posted:The same aircraft as this: Man, that's like seeing Ltl John's high school yearbook photo contrasted to him on Kings of Crunk
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Alaska Air, 737-9(00ER)s, Portland, and doors seems to be quite the combo this year. https://simpleflying.com/alaska-airlines-boeing-737-900er-portland-cargo-door-open/ https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1766191862946070793
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Big week for CAPS. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/352852
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Rip Testes posted:https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350209071/sydney-auckland-flight-drops-suddenly-50-passengers-and-crew-injured Yaknow if I'm a passenger on an airliner and you're flying it and that happens, you can just say it was turbulence or something, you don't have to go into specifics about how the plane just tried to kill us
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Rip Testes posted:https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350209071/sydney-auckland-flight-drops-suddenly-50-passengers-and-crew-injured I'm so skeptical of this. Coming back into the cabin and saying worrying things like that to a bunch of scared passengers is just not how any flight crew would behave. source is a passenger, overhearing a "pilot", and speaking to a flipping Stuff reporter... hmm. Quite a bunch of unreliable links in that reporting chain.
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