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Homeless Friend posted:they changed it so you get gold no matter what at 12 years/3 stripes iirc Thought it still required the streak to be unbroken, served with a guy who still rocked the red because he was kinda a fuckup before he made first class.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It's so much worse than you implied lmao. I checked out their war studies course catalog, Lol, lmao. The US is only dangerous to you if you dont have AD
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to be fair pr and marketing poo poo are definitely more useful than military skills if you wanna make a career in the us army
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As I recall from my distant sailor days. An E-5 gets discharged if they don't make E-6 after 16 years. That would be 4 of those golden stripes.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:West Point class of 2024 is going to be worse than useless Lmao Be an entrepreneur!
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Cerebral Bore posted:to be fair pr and marketing poo poo are definitely more useful than military skills if you wanna make a career in the us army What about innovation?
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gradenko_2000 posted:drat I love the P-38
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https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-willing-lose-planes-air-force-ukraine-glide-bombs-isw-2024-3dumb gently caress article posted:MILITARY & DEFENSE Is it just me or does this loving piece read like "accepting calculated combat losses" to "achieve objectives" is lostech or some percular witchcraft of the alien Rus mind?
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That or just the Ukrainians might have been telling a fib about shooting down 15 su-34s in a row.
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Owlbear Camus posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-willing-lose-planes-air-force-ukraine-glide-bombs-isw-2024-3 The lib types I speak to all seem to think every combat loss of a strike plane is an hilarious unrecoverable fuckup Its video games and rts esports and their meta's, it has to be.
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Regarde Aduck posted:The lib types I speak to all seem to think every combat loss of a strike plane is an hilarious unrecoverable fuckup If it was RTS esports you'd think attrition would be a 100% expected and acceptable outcome of every fight since most RTS games since Starcraft have been as much about showing up with more poo poo and grinding down the enemy (macro) vs tactical control and maximizing the value of each unit (micro) I think it's JIT lean bullshit, attrition and combat losses are "defects" and must be eliminated, combined with the political unacceptability of ever taking a combat loss
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Regarde Aduck posted:The lib types I speak to all seem to think every combat loss of a strike plane is an hilarious unrecoverable fuckup From a PR standpoint it pretty much is. Nobody wants to see an American pilot captured and giving statement on TV. We've been in COIN and curbstomp wars since the 80s and PR is the only consideration because there hasn't been anything like an existential threat for a very long time. Which is why when the US finally get the war they want with China and takes big losses, the US probably isn't ready mentally to lose big assets and big numbers. I expect they won't be looking to blame themselves, and instead will salve the burn with their old favorite: Pervasive violent racism. I'm gonna get sent to a camp or lynched, and I'm not even Chinese lol.
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skooma512 posted:From a PR standpoint it pretty much is. Nobody wants to see an American pilot captured and giving statement on TV. We've been in COIN and curbstomp wars since the 80s and PR is the only consideration because there hasn't been anything like an existential threat for a very long time. Yeah the reactionary rightward lurch that's coming in response to a military defeat is going to be Some Real poo poo e: almost to the one year anniversary of this prediction The Oldest Man posted:The US losing any kind of confrontation with a legitimated state opponent like China is going to trigger an outbreak of the most jingoist, nationalist, and revanchist psychopathic behavior of the kind we have no modern context for. The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 00:16 on Mar 8, 2024 |
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Ardennes posted:That or just the Ukrainians might have been telling a fib about shooting down 15 su-34s in a row. Ukraine will claim 1000% Su-34 losses and the Western think tanks will say that the lesson is that the barbarian Asiatic mind is just willing to bear losses.
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Ted Wassanasong posted:Thought it still required the streak to be unbroken, served with a guy who still rocked the red because he was kinda a fuckup before he made first class. its went into effect recently. iirc at 12 years of service you can wear gold nonmatter what. it’s like a get out of jail free card. but if then gently caress up again, you go back to red and the 12 year timer starts over lol. also its not cumlative, if your in and out of the navy but a 12 year streak. navy street fighter super gauge
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Owlbear Camus posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-willing-lose-planes-air-force-ukraine-glide-bombs-isw-2024-3 the institute for the study of war is studying its first war its adorable
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The Oldest Man posted:Yeah the reactionary rightward lurch that's coming in response to a military defeat is going to be Some Real poo poo The Oldest Man posted:The US losing any kind of confrontation with a legitimated state opponent like China is going to trigger an outbreak of the most jingoist, nationalist, and revanchist psychopathic behavior of the kind we have no modern context for. Not only the loss of treats from imperial decline, but every news outlet is going to go into total overdrive to sell the losing war to people and to get them to sign up. You've already witnessed this with Iraq and Gaza in the NYT, where total nobodies start showing up to push the narrative, and most media in the US is already far right. Like they're already talking about China as if we're definitely going to war with them, because they took over dinky little sea mount tops in the ocean. It's a sphere of influence when its Cuba, which is ours to dictate governments to, but it's unacceptable that China takes over uninhabited rocks in their sphere of influence. In news stories about the Tiktok ban Congress calls China an "adversary". The Americans are just wholly unwilling to accept the idea of non-whites having real power and once that power is manifested in destroying the ultimate symbols of ours, the aircraft carrier, is when US media goes full RTLM. Then it'll be my phone recording my imminent demise.
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Idk, were the losses in Vietnam and Afghanistan met with hyper nationalism?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Idk, were the losses in Vietnam and Afghanistan met with hyper nationalism? a supermajority of the country thought the Kent state 4 got what they deserved
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Idk, were the losses in Vietnam and Afghanistan met with hyper nationalism? Those were police actions.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:a supermajority of the country thought the Kent state 4 got what they deserved Edit: NVM I just checked a timeline.
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Justin Tyme posted:I don't understand the "aha! We will turn the A-10 into a drone!" concept because I dont think (&I could be wrong here) the cost of training a pilot is more than fuel and maintenance, plus you still need to train a pilot, they just sit on their rear end on a terminal instead of a cockpit. I guess robots don't need to maintain flight hours? It's not just the cost but the time & flight hours, and this is especially an issue with the US/NATO air forces that rely on multi-role aircraft without a lot of GCI where pilots are expected to do everything. Even if the airframes were attritable (they are not lol), and even if there was the production capacity to keep up with missile/bomb expenditures (lmao), the current US model of pilot training is arguably incompatible with a real, sustained war.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Idk, were the losses in Vietnam and Afghanistan met with hyper nationalism? 
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Owlbear Camus posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-willing-lose-planes-air-force-ukraine-glide-bombs-isw-2024-3 remember the first week or so when all those reporters were standing out in a field next to a single downed russian helicopter going "mr putin, you can not win this war, look at this terrible and unsustainable loss!"? that's how their brains actually work
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Regarde Aduck posted:Well they probably should, and also step up production Russia has retained the ability to manufacture lots of artillery ammo and refit lots of ground vehicles, which serves them well, but their combat aircraft production is borderline artisanal in recent years, with a production rate to match. This is particularly for special purpose aircraft like their handful of airworthy A-50s and the one yet to be fielded A-100. A side effect of this was China accelerating their prior plans to use domestic Chinese platforms and builds rather than paying for and waiting for Russian aircraft. A legacy Chinese AEWC switched platforms in large part due to Il-76 costs and sustainment capability. Curious to see how India’s domestic aviation effort plays out over the next decade or two.
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Atrocious Joe posted:Are Power Ranger belt buckles regulation in the US Navy this is why the US doesn't have health care
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In the navy Yes, you can sail the seven seas In the navy Yes, you can get some cookies
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Delta-Wye posted:In the navy in the navy funko pops can fill up your shelf in the navy you can read a book about a elf
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Knowing them, the manual is itself a pdf that requires a password, hosted on a LockMart website, and can't be downloaded.
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enemy countermeasures consist of spamming bad username/password auth credentials to force 30 minute lockout timers from too many failed attempts
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mlmp08 posted:The internal-only payload of the F-35A is either 2x 2,000 pound bombs (GBU-31 JDAM family) and 2x AIM-120s. That was the earliest loadout in the earliest versions of the F-35 to exist. That plane has no stealth if the bombs are equipped outside the bays. Everything has to be inside, and as soon as the weapons bay opens every radar will know that object is an F-35 and not some random bird, even if it closes the bays back.
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mlmp08 posted:SU-25 is cool and with all the $$$ of the west, maybe it could have had its weapons and avionics upgraded to be great. Pretty cool airframe, but severely limited by Russia's resource inability to keep it up to par with stuff like the A-10. Unguided rocket lobbing just isn't very good compared to the ability to deliver munitions against targets effectively. And rockets are already fairly low HE vs carry weight and size, so you don't really get the "more boom makes up for precision" bonus. Its ability to detect targets is pretty piss-poor compared to modern multiroles or CAS fighters with decent targeting pods. I guess its other downfall for CAS is that it has rather little time on station, but at least it's fast. But as we've seen over the last couple years, even MANPADS make pretty good work against these kind of attacks. Even moreso modern A2A planes like Flankers keeping Ukrainian SU-25s on their back foot. Russia has better radar, always has, and ground to air / air to air systems. Before THAAD they had DON-2N https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don-2N_radar that thing pairs with this thing, a nuclear missile made to intercept nukes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bag2HJhcV44
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HouseofSuren posted:That plane has no stealth if the bombs are equipped outside the bays. Everything has to be inside, and as soon as the weapons bay opens every radar will know that object is an F-35 and not some random bird, even if it closes the bays back. drat that's crazy 
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I'll take the J-20 over the F-35 along with China's clone of the Javelin, Red Arrow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-12
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Yeah, the J-20 looks cool. But it has weapons bays, so I guess it's hosed. What a shame.
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The A-50 airframes already exist, the question is spending the money on upgrading them and getting them back into service. Supposedly, at least one already did. According to UAC, tactical aircraft production increased by 30% from 2022 to 2023 and probably going to scale further. It is going to take a couple years to get their civilian aviation industry back fully online, though. Also, anything with a sizable L band radar can track the F-35, the question is usually IFF and acquiring a firing solution. That said, more advanced active scan arrays can probably do it at this point, working in tandem. In the Kosovo war, the Yugoslav crew needed 17 seconds to turn on the radar of their S-125, acquire the F-117, and shoot it down. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 07:15 on Mar 8, 2024 |
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If it starts using its weapons (opening bay) stealth is no longer a factor in the equation. Stealth ends once you open the bays, everyone knows this, including them.
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Ardennes posted:The A-50 airframes already exist, the question is spending the money on upgrading them and getting them back into service. Supposedly, at least one already did. How many of those 40 frames are airworthy? A lot of aircraft in the world are sitting around as parts donors that will never fly again.
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