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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Here’s what this means: i hate this freak hes such a piece of poo poo he got run out of doomsday econ for similar garbage
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what are the odds of this temporary port being completely fictional vs. attempted forward military base vs. money-laundering scheme?
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Also twitter is having a hay day about this. I am gonna go with, when has America ever had the American population believe they were doing good, solid, wholesome work in the Middle East…when in actuality they were stealing their natural resources? https://x.com/megatron_ron/status/1765832090208084379?s=46
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The 1973 manual PORT CONSTRUCTION IN THE THEATER OF OPERATIONS is also interesting. I mean, a military building a port is an impressive undertaking. But I think that just makes it clear this is not going to happen, and I cannot stress enough, cannot be allowed to happen, because it calls for many hundreds of military personnel, most of which need to be working on land, and also equipment and supplies the US military barely stocks anymore.   
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I dredged up (ha) the latest publicly available manual, and no chance is this happening. It won't be resourced, it won't be allowed to happen by Israel, I doubt the military is even capable of it anymore. well there is/was a harbor around where al shifa hospital is/was. if they're just building a floating terminal to load small boats from big boats they could just use the existing (?) harbor and unload with cranes. there's also a pier about 2/3 the way down the strip so if they use those landings they wouldn't need to do surveys or take soil borings
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stumblebum posted:what are the odds of this temporary port being completely fictional vs. attempted forward military base vs. money-laundering scheme? Very high, since everything I've been reading, says that... I mean, did America fully repair the Port of New Orleans after Katrina? Because building a port requires battalions of construction workers, naval support, materials, detailed survey and planning, heavy equipment to be landed, electrical supply...
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:List_of_work_Israel_wont_let_them_undertake.pdf its fine, just ask chatgpt where to put the infrastructure
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Hatebag posted:well there is/was a harbor around where al shifa hospital is/was. if they're just building a floating terminal to load small boats from big boats they could just use the existing (?) harbor and unload with cranes. there's also a pier about 2/3 the way down the strip Do you know if an up to date 1:50 000 map exists?   
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Does anyone read/post in the epstein thread enough to provide a good summary on World Central Kitchen? for some reason I have them mentally filed under "Aid NGO (Spooks)"
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Do you know if an up to date 1:50 000 map exists? no i just looked at google maps
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Hatebag posted:no i just looked at google maps Geological Survey of Israel has it,  Though they've marked the soil as being made up of unstable sand dunes. It's here if anyone is interested: https://egozi.gsi.gov.il/WebApps/Geology/Geo50K_Nirim/
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None of this is getting done, it's just another talking point, and like all talking points it does not exist to be replied to or compared to reality. They have no answer, but they need to say something, so they'll say this for a while and say something else later.
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text editor posted:Does anyone read/post in the epstein thread enough to provide a good summary on World Central Kitchen? for some reason I have them mentally filed under "Aid NGO (Spooks)" https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status/1594717149712596996?t=lOMFBRm0Bwqy9359aUUfDQ&s=19
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Geological Survey of Israel has it, if you use google street view you can see that it's packed dirt supported by concrete blocks. all the boats in the harbor in those photos are pretty small but you could probably get a barge in there especially towards the end of the jetty
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i mean how old is the google street view all of that is probably rubble now
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HallelujahLee posted:i mean how old is the google street view all of that is probably rubble now well yeah, i don't know what it's like right now. but in the photos it looks like it was mostly made out of rubble anyway from previous genocides. i don't think it could be destroyed with anything less than a sustained and concentrated effort
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quote:In the heart of crisis-ridden Gaza, where the need for sustenance and support is urgent, World Central Kitchen is pioneering a groundbreaking initiative to empower local communities: the establishment of community kitchens. This innovative approach not only decentralizes meal distribution but also fosters a sense of ownership and self-reliance among the Palestinians. World Central Kitchen seems to have made a lot of inroads into Gaza since IOF operations began a few months ago. https://wck.org/en-us/news/for-palestinians-by-palestinians quote:Palestinian parties faced the death of a thousand cuts as they hemorrhaged cadre to the NGOs erected by the aid industry. Palestinian development deteriorated into an apolitical process of governance, growth, and isolated project work. That Max Ajl post from a few pages back goes a little into how aid has been used against the Palestinian national struggle. World Central Kitchen is probably feeding people, but it's also meant to be an alternative to nationalist and Islamist civil society groups and UN operations that provided relief prior to the war. It'd be interesting to see if any of the aid trucks or distribution point Israel has hit have been with WCK
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Big Z and the Chef locked eyes for 5 seconds to let the photogs take enough pictures.
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Hatebag posted:if you use google street view you can see that it's packed dirt supported by concrete blocks. all the boats in the harbor in those photos are pretty small but you could probably get a barge in there especially towards the end of the jetty I don't disagree, but unless they are willing to order engineering officers to contravene their own doctrine, procedures, and the basic ethical practices of an engineer, this is still something that would - per their own training - require hundreds of men to be landed.     It would be better to say nothing, honestly. This is disgusting. For reference, this is what Da Nang, which used barges to unload, looked like:    The requirements for Class I Supply, "Rations: Subsistence (food and drinking water), gratuitous (free) health and comfort items" is probably about the same as Gaza too, or somewhat less.
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DaysBefore posted:What's up with Spain lol, they've been less openly genocidal than the rest of NATO during this genocide The PM is a regular economic conservative in a socialist party clothing. His coalition, nominally left wing, is weak in parliament. Gaza is a tertiary issue in the press but it plays well with most of the bases.
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https://twitter.com/mrconfino/status/1765330518311121186?t=2BuEXLOxSv0B-veC7O1cCA&s=19 https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...fe-d7bd0ca20000 From yesterday in Haaretz. The UAE and Israel had already agreed on letting the WCK deliver aid to Gaza from the sea via hovercraft.
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Okay, can someone explain who the gently caress José Andrés is and why he's central to US and Israeli policy in the hours ticking down before the US state of the union?
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quote:Two diplomats briefed on the plans said the latest plans would see the port erected on Gaza’s shoreline slightly north of the Wadi Gaza crossing, where Israeli forces have erected a major checkpoint. Update on the NYT story https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/07/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Okay, can someone explain who the gently caress José Andrés is and why he's central to US and Israeli policy in the hours ticking down before the US state of the union? he's a celebrity chef who formed an NGO and maybe he's a government agent too, i dunno.
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Finally, a checkpoint that the IDF can block aid at
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Neurolimal posted:Finally, another checkpoint that the IDF can block aid at
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Atrocious Joe posted:Update on the NYT story Well, there's loving nothing there. Not breakwaters or port infrastructure, but there's not even roads, really. It's also all soft, unstable, sand. 
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uber_stoat posted:he's a celebrity chef who formed an NGO and maybe he's a government agent too, i dunno. i know the joke is that everything is an OP, but seriously, is everything an OP?!
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Well yes, but people are going to ask to see the port at some point. 1) thats helping trump 2) how dare you 3) hamas did it e: this may be verging on burger posting but i think it's relevant since the excuse-making is going to hinge on blaming Palestinians for their own starvation
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Chef Andres - "Famine, Starvation these are terrible things, but their causes their causes are really good" probably
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The Oldest Man posted:1) thats helping trump I'm going into full DTI DTA mode over this announcement, it's driving me a bit insane. I was in a botched river crossing where we landed almost 48 hours before our rations and water because the engineers didn't do their jobs and measure the depth, tide and soil stability ahead of time and account for barge weights, causing a 4 day traffic jam, and you know, that was kind of small potatoes compared to what's happening in Gaza.
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Neurolimal posted:Finally, a checkpoint that the IDF can block aid at
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Biden's support for this plan was clearly inspired by reading the 1950's manual for navy construction battalions 
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Biden's support for this plan was clearly inspired by reading the 1950's manual for navy construction battalions [Tom of] Finland has committed forces to Prosperity Guardian
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I dredged up (ha) the latest publicly available manual, and no chance is this happening. It won't be resourced, it won't be allowed to happen by Israel, I doubt the military is even capable of it anymore. DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I mean, a military building a port is an impressive undertaking. But I think that just makes it clear this is not going to happen, and I cannot stress enough, cannot be allowed to happen, because it calls for many hundreds of military personnel, most of which need to be working on land, and also equipment and supplies the US military barely stocks anymore. DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I don't disagree, but unless they are willing to order engineering officers to contravene their own doctrine, procedures, and the basic ethical practices of an engineer, this is still something that would - per their own training - require hundreds of men to be landed. lol DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I'm going into full DTI DTA mode over this announcement, it's driving me a bit insane. lmao
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Here’s what this means: Uh huh
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