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fatherboxx)
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They just did it. Sweden is in NATO now.
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Mar 7, 2024 17:27
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We are doomed, the red line has been crossed
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Mar 7, 2024 17:35
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steinrokkan posted:We are doomed, the red line has been crossed again
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Mar 7, 2024 17:47
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steinrokkan posted:We are doomed, the red line has been crossed someone remind putin that Clancy chat isn't allowed anymore.
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Mar 7, 2024 18:19
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Nenonen posted:NÅTO NATØ
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Mar 7, 2024 18:56
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Volmarias posted:NATØ PAPL
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Mar 7, 2024 19:02
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I got :tenbux: on a barrage of overnight Russian missile/Shahed strikes in the next 3 days due to the Sweden news.
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Mar 7, 2024 19:10
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Mr. Apollo posted:
I loving love that Forbes is calling them out like that.
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Mar 7, 2024 19:18
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Volmarias posted:NATØ NATÖ 
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Mar 7, 2024 19:40
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PA-pakti 
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Mar 7, 2024 19:53
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OTAN
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Mar 7, 2024 19:58
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axis of jävel
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Mar 7, 2024 19:58
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steinrokkan posted:We are doomed, the red line has been crossed WILLÖ
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Mar 7, 2024 20:01
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mal ikke fjenden på væggen, forsøren
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Mar 7, 2024 21:57
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I’m gonna go to IKEA this weekend to celebrate the news. 
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Mar 7, 2024 22:06
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"I likea IKEA"
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Mar 7, 2024 22:11
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Us NATO-ites are now legally required to defend the spot that Abba stands upon.
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Mar 7, 2024 22:25
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Orthanc6 posted:Us NATO-ites are now legally required to defend the spot that Abba stands upon. Quite conveniently this May's NATOvision Song Contest is held in Malmö 
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Mar 7, 2024 22:29
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Release the Surströmming!!! 
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Mar 7, 2024 22:42
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Just Another Lurker posted:Release the Surströmming!!! based on some of the russian field rations we've seen, their infantry might just welcome it as an improvement
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Mar 7, 2024 22:49
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Dirt5o8 posted:I loving love that Forbes is calling them out like that. I wish Biden would call them out like that.
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Mar 7, 2024 23:01
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Nenonen posted:Quite conveniently this May's NATOvision Song Contest is held in Malmö Italy was robbed
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Mar 7, 2024 23:01
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Nenonen posted:"I likea IKEA"
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Mar 7, 2024 23:35
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buglord posted:I’m gonna go to IKEA this weekend to celebrate the news. The Something Awful Forums > Debate and Discussion > The War in Ukraine CE: Blyat, IKEA joins NATO
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Mar 8, 2024 01:01
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Ynglaur posted:The Something Awful Forums > Debate and Discussion > The War in Ukraine CE: Blyat, IKEA joins NATO
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Mar 8, 2024 01:11
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Ynglaur posted:The Something Awful Forums > Debate and Discussion > The War in Ukraine CE: Blyat, IKEA joins NATO Flatpack river boats are already in the mail.
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Mar 8, 2024 01:23
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... gently caress, did I install the deck upside down?
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Mar 8, 2024 07:00
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Volmarias posted:... gently caress, did I install the deck upside down? That's the Russian translation... 
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Mar 8, 2024 10:25
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I did a news trawl through German media DIe Zeit: The German subsidiary of Russian energy corporation Rosneft will remain under state control, but plans for a full government take over are scuttled. Background: During the short-lived energy crisis at the start of the war, Germany put the German subsidiary of Rosneft under control of a government-set trust company, with possible later plans for a complete takeover, if necessary. Now the owners of the shares on the German refineries have agreed to a deal: They will sell their shares, presumable returning the German refineries back to a German or at least not Russian ownership. Therefore, the trust company will keep working, but Germany will be spared the trauma of government bureaucracy completely running those refineries into the ground. According to Zeit, a majority of Germans is against Taurus-deliveries, among mounting fears Germany could be dragged into the war. Is that Scholz laughing I hear? Well, a majority of Germans also believe Putin may target Germany next with espionage attacks, and thinks giving the Bundeswehr a higher budget is OK now, a complete 180° on how Germans have traditionally thought about the military in the recent generation. Germany being a Democracy, this probably translates into more aid for Ukraine, but no Taurus-missiles. Mot that our right-wing arch conservatives believe in things like Democracy, our conservative opposition is already planning to put another vote on the table, despite a majority of all parties except the Greens and the Clown Party (FDP) being against it. Good luck with that! The UK puts down some more aid. Promises 10k more drones for Ukraine. In other news: -Latvia has begun forcing the first Russians (does that, strictly speaking, did not have legal right to live in Latvia) to leave. In the future, Russians will need to learn Latvian to stay. -France wants to help Ukraine to expand military production at home. Three French companies will work with Ukrainian companies to expand production of equipment and spare parts in Ukraine. Though thanks to how European procurement works, at least one German corporation (Krauss-Maffei-Wegmann ) is part of the network of "French" companies helping to set up production centers. The first factory lines are expected to go online this Summer.
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Mar 8, 2024 12:53
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https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/time-running-out-ukrainequote:THE LAST RIDE OF THE SOVIET ARMY Good overview from Massicot.
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Mar 8, 2024 15:11
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sadly, Russia does not have enough wizards to conjure the number of bombers from thin air needed to make this "worst-case scenario" a reality or are we talking about the shot down bombers plowing directly into cities? because that's more likely to happen
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Mar 8, 2024 15:23
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Macron Ready to Send Troops to Ukraine if Russia Approaches Kyiv or Odesa https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29194 Hmm, I wonder if Macron is feeling guilty for being so convinced he could negotiate with Putin to prevent the war that now he's willing to say things like this. Could be that the strategy is to inject more uncertainty about what 'the west' is willing to do to stop Russia now, after repeatedly reassuring Russia they wouldn't get more involved. Russia pushing on Kyiv or Odessa would certainly be quite a shift of battle lines.
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Mar 8, 2024 23:46
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Dull Fork posted:Macron Ready to Send Troops to Ukraine if Russia Approaches Kyiv or Odesa I think its that mixed with it dawning on europe that if russia pulls a win, they wont stop with just ukraine and will keep pushing and then all the good times for europe crash hard. i dont think anything happens because i dont think putin gets to kyiv or odessa, but i think europe is putting a line in the sand just incase stuff gets way worse.
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Mar 9, 2024 00:09
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One of the Ukraine news Youtube guys also mentioned a day or two ago that some other serious people have also started to talk about possible Russian operations against the Baltic countries from Belarus and stuff like that. Macron is not alone in his pessimistic estimate of how the war might evolve. Ukraine needs more help, if Putin decides that the west is systematically weak and cowardly and doesn't have a common will to defend itself, he just might decide to escalate further
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Mar 9, 2024 00:11
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jaete posted:One of the Ukraine news Youtube guys also mentioned a day or two ago that some other serious people have also started to talk about possible Russian operations against the Baltic countries from Belarus and stuff like that. Macron is not alone in his pessimistic estimate of how the war might evolve. i could see putin getting desperate for some sort of win and glory for the empire and just trying to expand the war.
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Mar 9, 2024 00:15
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jaete posted:One of the Ukraine news Youtube guys also mentioned a day or two ago that some other serious people have also started to talk about possible Russian operations against the Baltic countries from Belarus and stuff like that. Macron is not alone in his pessimistic estimate of how the war might evolve. I suspect (hope) that there's a fair amount of saber-rattling on both sides, but yes, I think Macron is very eager to dissuade Putin from thinking that expanding the war would be a free ride.
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Mar 9, 2024 00:31
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France has a long standing policy of strategic ambiguity, never quite letting its adversaries know exactly where its red lines are, in order to discourage them from going right up to the line and pushing France with an "I'm not touching you!" act. This is likely at least partially an extension of that, trying to confuse Russia about how far France will go, in the hope that Russia will take it into account and moderate their own actions at least somewhat (as they're not dumb enough to want a direct clash with France yet). Macron is probably also likely trying to move the Overton window in Europe, away from the current complacency and onto potential future scenarios if they fail to act. Europe isn't waking up yet, but he may be able to help wake it up to the fact it needs to wake up.
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Mar 9, 2024 00:52
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jaete posted:One of the Ukraine news Youtube guys also mentioned a day or two ago that some other serious people have also started to talk about possible Russian operations against the Baltic countries from Belarus and stuff like that. Macron is not alone in his pessimistic estimate of how the war might evolve. The capital of Estonia is under 200 miles to the St.Petersburg suburbs, and only 120 miles from the border. The Russians might think they can hide a couple of mechanized brigades in the urban area and make a dash over the border. That'd be harder to spot than the big, slow buildup around Ukraine was.
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Mar 9, 2024 01:17
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Invading Estonia would not be a minor matter. It would separate Kaliningrad from Russia proper because there would be a hot war in the Baltic Sea. I doubt Putin would do that in a situation where he can't realistically secure a land connection to Kaliningrad. Or even if he could, because a blockade on St. Petersburg would be bad for him.
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Mar 9, 2024 01:40
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Various kinds of hybrid harassing operations are to be expected and are already going on, though.
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Mar 9, 2024 01:42
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