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The music in XIV specifically is such a huge selling point for people that people are going to react stronger than if this convo was about idk. The Witcher 3 or something. It's no skin off my back that you don't care about the music, but that's why people are going to react the way they ware.
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HaB posted:It's not a processing thing, nor does it overwhelm me. I just don't want to sit there thinking "ooh! I wonder what that last chord change was?" or "oooh a drop to 7/4 - nice!" while I am trying to game, because it's distracting. What you're describing is a processing thing that overwhelms you.
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Mar 8, 2024 20:05
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I like to always have music and sound effects on (in all games, not just FFXIV), and the music has a big impact on my impression of a game. I especially think it would be strange to turn off music before even listening to it once, but also who cares if someone else turns it off. It's like how I feel about FFXIV cutscene skippers-- it's not what I would do, and I recommend against it, but if that's the experience they enjoy then whatever.
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Mar 8, 2024 20:08
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Ojjeorago posted:What you're describing is a processing thing that overwhelms you. I mean I'm pretty sure I'd know if I was getting overwhelmed. Ibram Gaunt posted:The music in XIV specifically is such a huge selling point for people that people are going to react stronger than if this convo was about idk. The Witcher 3 or something. Sure, but the reaction in the Souls thread was similar.
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Mar 8, 2024 20:21
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i mean all video games are designed with the music in mind. you can play without them if you want but itd be like watching a movie with the audio off and just subtitles. its not like anyones gonna stop you but it isnt exactly the intended experience
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Mar 8, 2024 20:42
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Have they said specifically otherwise or should I just assume I need to rebuy expansions if I want to play on the new Xbox client.
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Mar 8, 2024 20:52
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Have they said specifically otherwise or should I just assume I need to rebuy expansions if I want to play on the new Xbox client. Yes but you get a extra 30 days for the sub on PC too.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Have they said specifically otherwise or should I just assume I need to rebuy expansions if I want to play on the new Xbox client. I would assume you need to rebuy all the expansions for Xbox since it tracks each platform separately, even if you link accounts. So if you have just the base ARR on your Xbox and the account is linked to your main PC/Playstation account that has everything up through Endwalker, you'll still be able to log in and play in ARR areas on the Xbox, but all the other expansions' content will be locked out to you.
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Mar 8, 2024 21:03
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Also, each expansion includes all previous ones, so you only need to buy Endwalker (or wait for Dawntrail and buy that)
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HaB posted:I mean I'm pretty sure I'd know if I was getting overwhelmed. people like music, and it's one of those things thats so universal that it is very unexpected and hard to relate to someone who prefers no music at all. and in games like ffxiv and souls there is a lot of emotional impact from the music. it's like someone saying they don't like pizza. like it's fine, people can like what they like, but it's unusual. everyone loves pizza. right? personally i can't relate to someone who hears things like chord changes and keys and timing poo poo in music. i've watched so many videos that talk about all that stuff and i just... don't know what the gently caress they're talking about. it's too technical and means nothing to me.
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Mar 8, 2024 23:24
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HaB posted:It's not a processing thing, nor does it overwhelm me. I just don't want to sit there thinking "ooh! I wonder what that last chord change was?" or "oooh a drop to 7/4 - nice!" while I am trying to game, because it's distracting. that's because the way you play your games is psychotic and everyone feels disgust
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HaB posted:It's not a processing thing, nor does it overwhelm me. I just don't want to sit there thinking "ooh! I wonder what that last chord change was?" or "oooh a drop to 7/4 - nice!" while I am trying to game, because it's distracting. I don't agree with this in general, but I do think there's some songs that actively do have this problem. I feel like you're 'foregrounding' the backgorund music too much (which might itself be some sort of processing thing), but there are some songs that just don't work as background music because they're too distractingly complex. There's very few that I'd say fall into that in FFXIV, but the best example I can think of is From Mud, the Arboretum Hard background music. It's actually a really nice song that makes really good use fo distortion... but hidden behind the swathe of combat sounds that a dungeon theme often is, it just comes out as the audio equivalent of sludge.
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I always have music on, but mount music is always off because I dismount/remount so often for gathering and such that the music constantly changing bothers me.
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Sat down this evening and on a whim decided to do every sidequest in the Churning Mists. ... I'm not sure some of these quest chains actually end.
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I turned off mount music, but I always have music and sound effects on. I don't turn off music unless I really am focusing on something else.
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goblin week posted:that's because the way you play your games is psychotic and everyone feels disgust I don't and I think this is a strange way of describing how someone else plays games.
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It's kinda weird. All sorts of mods, graphical, qol, or just cheating get a pass. But turn the music off? You're playing the dev's vision wrong.
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Mar 9, 2024 01:36
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i like music
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:It's kinda weird. All sorts of mods, graphical, qol, or just cheating get a pass. But turn the music off? You're playing the dev's vision wrong. I don't think anyone is saying that, they're saying that music is a cohesive part of the whole design and if you turn it off you're inevitably cutting out a part of that design. If you're fine with that then you're fine with that, but the idea that it's superior is a very hard one to buy because, especially in FF14, music is so immensely tied to the atmospheric design of the game that cutting it out feels strange. (Barring like, turning it off because you've heard the song a billion times.)
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Mar 9, 2024 02:13
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I always turn BGM off, in every game, because: A) If you're exploring a cave or wandering across an empty field, why would music be playing? Makes no sense in-universe or out. B) If you need music to make a scene feel sad or angry or whatever, then that's just plain bad storytelling. Do books have music? No.
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Offkorn posted:I always turn BGM off, in every game, because: I fully support your right to do whatever you want to do but: video games are an audiovisual medium, just like films and TV shows are. I am assuming you don't just watch the latter in silence with subtitles (if you do then power to you I guess).
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The way the game muffles the music in some situations means it's diegetic. 
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Kazy posted:The way the game muffles the music in some situations means it's diegetic. Eden Titan does have dialogue that comes from Under the Weight...
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The linkpearl is used to stream background music for exploring imo.
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Mar 9, 2024 02:44
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Hell you can just carry around a Garlean radio.
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The WoL carrying a big 80s-style boom box on their shoulder through Alexander blasting the FORWARD AND BACK song.
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lol if you don’t have music playing in your head all day every day
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Offkorn posted:I always turn BGM off, in every game, because:
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Kazy posted:The way the game muffles the music in some situations means it's diegetic. The fact that (level 50 duty) going into Cerberus's stomach muffles the BGM remains amazing
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Mar 9, 2024 02:57
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The Qitari tribe daily quests mention that the zone BGM is something echo havers can hear.
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the bgm comes from the same place as the orange puddles
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There is no canon explanation for the orange puddles.
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ImpAtom posted:I don't think anyone is saying that, they're saying that music is a cohesive part of the whole design and if you turn it off you're inevitably cutting out a part of that design. If you're fine with that then you're fine with that, but the idea that it's superior is a very hard one to buy because, especially in FF14, music is so immensely tied to the atmospheric design of the game that cutting it out feels strange. (Barring like, turning it off because you've heard the song a billion times.) For me, that cohesive part of the whole design is important when doing story stuff. When I’m gathering or fishing or repeatedly grinding, the music is not adding to the experience. I take in the full experience when I do the content the first time. On repeat visits and grinding dailies and such, that cohesive experience isn’t even a cohesive experience. I mean, if we’re talking about “people should always keep music on for the cohesive experience,” you could become a bit of a purist and extend that to other areas of the game. “If you ever skip a boss’s mechanics, you’re not getting the cohesive experience.” “If you ever run a dungeon unsynced, you’re not getting the cohesive experience.”
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the person you're quoting is talking about making sure to have that experience at least once, in a conversation about people not ever having that experience ever. your fourtieth or fiftieth time through the same thing is a different consideration entirely
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flatluigi posted:the person you're quoting is talking about making sure to have that experience at least once, in a conversation about people not ever having that experience ever. your fourtieth or fiftieth time through the same thing is a different consideration entirely  I just don’t understand why we need to police or judge how other people partake in the game.
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the natural response to someone saying they haven't done something that you've done and enjoyed is to recommend they do it, even if for whatever reason they have a blanket policy against ever giving it a shot
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Hell you can just carry around a Garlean radio. Gruckles posted:The Qitari tribe daily quests mention that the zone BGM is something echo havers can hear. The news programme on the NPR/BBC equivalent here is called "The Echo". It's been running since the 30s and is generally considered a bastion of unbiased journalism, with something like 20% of the population listening daily. My wol being an avid listener and therefore immune to Primal propaganda was always my headcanon. I appreciate that the Garlemald zone plot made it official that, yes, that is indeed a power of Eorzean public broadcasting. Listen to public radio kids, it
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Kwyndig posted:There is no canon explanation for the orange puddles. its the echo
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Kwyndig posted:There is no canon explanation for the orange puddles. Fighter's intuition. It's why attacks that didn't have them originally get them later when you see someone do it again. Or why some blink right before they pop before it's too late because you didn't see it coming. It's a gamified version of what your basic action anime protag sees mid fight. Like putting on color blind mode but for having a Goku Brain.
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Yeah orange puddles are just a gameplay contrivance. But seeing hp bars? That's the echo.
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