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pentyne posted:This is extremely obvious to anyone not obsessed with making some kind of weird, fetishy culture war point over it. Unfortunately this says a lot about the quality of the writing of Three Body Problem, having read both.
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Mar 9, 2024 11:35
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Nuebot posted:For a while almost any time a character was trans in games or anime a very certain subsect of dudes would pitch a fit over "femboy erasure" - though the last time I heard of that poo poo at all was around the bridget stuff in guilty gear, and then it all kind of vanished and now they're all mad about women ruining anime and video games with their wicked translations again.
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Mar 9, 2024 11:39
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I just dislike how a lot of people on both sides treat your preferences for localization as some huge moral choice and you are an evil authoritarian if you disagree with them. I think both sides have good points sometimes, and this poo poo is such a minor issue. Localization can punch up the dialogue, but sometimes the localizer forgets that people expect it be somewhat faithful to the original work, and they'll radically change something just because they don't like it. like the translators of pokemon werent sitting around talking about how evil onigiri is and how it must be changed to jelly donuts, people above them wanted to pretend the show was less japanese than it was. ive seen people in the past few years talking about stuff like them translating a game where the entire plot is centered around cults and the japanese devs asking them to 'remove religious references' in translation for fear of offending people. some jp companies still think the US is in the NES era and that can often be the cause of weird censorship. Endorph fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Mar 9, 2024 11:44
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Endorph posted:the funniest thing about this is that theres like a million manga about crossdressing dudes who explicitly arent trans. loving shonen jump's online app has a manga about an assassin getting a femboy to help him find a wife and youll never expect where most of the romantic tension is. Everywhere though, that series has everyone be the best
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Mar 9, 2024 14:42
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Grondoth posted:Everywhere though, that series has everyone be the best Link??
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Mar 9, 2024 14:57
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pidan posted:Link?? https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/titles/100190
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Mar 9, 2024 15:04
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Flying Zamboni posted:It can't be helped. It can't be helped?
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Mar 9, 2024 15:44
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Samovar posted:It can't be helped? it is what it is. what can you do
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Mar 9, 2024 15:50
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 It can't be helped. But in the meantime here's a video about elf comics, the people who create them and how far some are willing to go to tell their stories:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Pygh3A4bY
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Mar 9, 2024 15:52
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mycophobia posted:it is what it is. what can you do This is bad.
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Mar 9, 2024 16:08
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mycot posted:tmw you can't just use the language barrier to make up the opinions of the Japanese developer "Yeah sorry I don't take my Twitter activity seriously." 
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Mar 9, 2024 16:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNT0ugybMk4 Now i'm on the dino kick and Clint's Reptiles has also done some dino vids.
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Mar 9, 2024 16:45
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Nuns with Guns posted:He loves Glorantha games like RuneQuest and Dragon Pass, swine. Get the lore right!!! Uchikoshi is so fuckin cool
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Mar 9, 2024 17:33
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNT0ugybMk4 Clint is great A+ channel for reptile keepers and people in general, and especially for people with kids
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Mar 9, 2024 17:50
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yeah clint's reptiles is one of my favorite channels, his enthusiasm and knowledge is fantastic and I love that his "the best pet" series has gone absolutely insane to the point of judging, say, whether one of the deadliest spiders on the planet would be the best pet, and he does it completely(well...mostly) seriously https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HekbxQPFSg&hd=1
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Mar 9, 2024 17:54
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Grondoth posted:Everywhere though, that series has everyone be the best I'm personally a big fan of Hamster Girl, but I am biased as a hamster person it's ridiculous in all the best ways, and it's a testament to the writing that in a series about a guy searching for a wife, there's a ton of contention between who should "win"(it's probably Kinosaki, who is the dude, but everyone has a pretty strong amount of people arguing for them outside of like, the Water User) it's also just loving silly and ridiculous with its fights in all the best ways, like using toxic cleaning chemicals to slice a bus in half, or the Sound User who might be my actual favorite character in the series   or, well, this 
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Mar 9, 2024 18:05
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the only true evil of localizations is whoever wrote Moe the clown in english
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Mar 9, 2024 18:15
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the only thing i know about PUBG is that it is the game that made pewdiepie say the n word on stream
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Mar 9, 2024 18:23
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:the only thing i know about PUBG is that it is the game that made pewdiepie say the n word on stream Powerful....
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Mar 9, 2024 18:25
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cumpantry posted:the only true evil of localizations is whoever wrote Moe the clown in english The idea of a witness who is so loving annoying that everyone in the courtroom resents you for bringing him to the stand is funny, but it's a lot to actually play. And everyone in that godforsaken circus is equally as annoying, so.
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Mar 9, 2024 18:26
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Mal-3 posted:
this is p. cool imo
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Mar 9, 2024 18:29
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I like Moe for breaking up the rhythm of "press every statement" for crosses
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Mar 9, 2024 18:38
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I remembered I had videos I'd watched the past week and kept forgetting to post here. sarahserif talks about The Descendants. Which are Disney Channel musical movies about the time Belle and Beast make a mega-kingdom called "U-S-A" and create an open air ghetto for all the Disney villains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LB3lltFciQ Also a good video from Ladyknightthebrave on Twelfth Night, one of those Shakespeare plays with all the crossdressing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTWlf1Bxac Ask a Mortician Caitlin does a short double feature video about improperly refrigerating a corpse on a cruise ship and an emotional support mummy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVjhJ7FrWtg Some guys hike to the most remote pub in the UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV5fm-bzLq8
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Mar 9, 2024 19:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o3i10OuMFQ Well now I've learned that  comes from Wizardry!Radia posted:ty to whoever linked f4mi earlier her vids kick rear end
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Mar 9, 2024 21:11
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cumpantry posted:the only true evil of localizations is whoever wrote Moe the clown in english Leetspeek guy is worse.
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Mar 9, 2024 21:14
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Endorph posted:actually, the 'no cloud, no squall shall hinder us' line in ff9 is also added by translation and that one's ftw too If i know one thing about Japanese media it’s that it’s full of puns, so this is accurate in spirit if not literally
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Mar 9, 2024 21:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YNrvSv-67k Bandsplaining has a bunch of pretty interesting videos.
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Mar 9, 2024 21:46
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Dave Mustaine was in an episode of Duck Dodgers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vQb714UMk
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Mar 9, 2024 21:47
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Billiam goes for round 2 on further Spike TV show examination https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYt_P5XqC4Y Manswers, Deadliest Warrior and 1000 Ways to Die are the only shows I know I actually saw on there, I had no idea Afro Samurai was on that channel and I think I heard about Stripperella years after it was done and gone.
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Mar 9, 2024 21:57
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Sydin posted:Yu Yu Hakusho is the go to example I think of where the English localization took what was honestly a pretty drat dry script and punched it up in ways that added to the characters. Yusuke in particular comes off much stronger in English because his dialogue there does a better job of reflecting that his whole punk attitude is his armor against all the bullshit in his life, and in reality he's a friendly goofball. Yeah, YYH might have one of the top 5 best dubs of all time. which would be a immensely shocking (and impressive!) thing to consider back in 2002, because the same studio just came off working on one of the absolute worst dubs of all time. these are the same guys who graced the world with "that's right boys, mondo cool" and "cat loves cat food, yeah yeah yeah" also hot take: i actually prefer dubs over the originals 90% of the time quote:Also they somehow managed to adapt Kurama and Kaito's word game in a manner that made total sense for an English-language viewer, which is a hell of a feat. yeah! i read about that battle before i watched the episode and was wondering how the hell they were gonna pull that off
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Mar 9, 2024 22:05
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the 90s/early 2000s funi dbz dub has issues but the voices themselves are great and most of the performances work, especially once you get to cell
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Mar 9, 2024 22:16
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Ocean Dub's Ginyu Force remains superior, IMO, even if I prefer Funi overall. Jonathan is back to look at more Helldivers weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNq6W7rPAGM
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Mar 9, 2024 22:17
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Sydin posted:Yu Yu Hakusho is the go to example I think of where the English localization took what was honestly a pretty drat dry script and punched it up in ways that added to the characters. Yusuke in particular comes off much stronger in English because his dialogue there does a better job of reflecting that his whole punk attitude is his armor against all the bullshit in his life, and in reality he's a friendly goofball. Mr Interweb posted:Yeah, YYH might have one of the top 5 best dubs of all time. which would be a immensely shocking (and impressive!) thing to consider back in 2002, because the same studio just came off working on one of the absolute worst dubs of all time. these are the same guys who graced the world with "that's right boys, mondo cool" and "cat loves cat food, yeah yeah yeah" Last time I did a re-watch of YYH I was told Yusuke's reply to Genkai's "you have to kill me to inherit my power" test is different in the English dub. I checked subs on crunchryoll just now and this is very true. In Japanese, Yusuke just says "I thought it about it hard and I can't do it but I'll still figure something out on my own." In the dub he talks about how Genkai is "the only person who ever taught me anything useful" and throws in some wise-sss remarks. It's everything I love about Yusuke, why he's one of my favorite shounen heroes of all time. It's a beautifully vulnerable moment about how Genkai is really the closest thing Yusuke has ever had to a (true/good) parent. Someone who was hard on him but only because they cared and wanted him to be a better person. It's as good now as it ever was. And it's absolutely even more astonishing because. as Mr Interweb said, they went from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGa-2BSFiI to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6rLBA6wvVY Although, speaking of Funi's early DBZ dub, I remember for Kai (and I assume everything after) Sabat dropped the original "cartoony" Piccolo voice and went with his normal voice but deeper, like he does with Zoro in One Piece. That's fine there but I love how cartoony Kuwabara's voice is in YYH and think it works great.
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Mar 9, 2024 22:45
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i don't know any japanese, but i was once told that japanese doesn't have pronouns so much as content words that fulfill the grammatical function of pronouns, which leads to all kinds of fun in amateur fan translations like a character constantly referring to themselves in third person and sounding like a neanderthal because in the original using your name instead instead of an age-appropriate first person pronoun is meant to come across as childish. or realising midway through a conversation that a character that's being talked about is actually the character being talked to because you can just use a person's name instead of "you" in japanese apparently
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Mar 9, 2024 22:55
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They did get the old YYH dub crew together for that short OVA covering the actual last manga arc and everyone sounds as they should, even Kuwabara
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Mar 9, 2024 22:56
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a cartoon duck posted:i don't know any japanese, but i was once told that japanese doesn't have pronouns so much as content words that fulfill the grammatical function of pronouns, which leads to all kinds of fun in amateur fan translations like a character constantly referring to themselves in third person and sounding like a neanderthal because in the original using your name instead instead of an age-appropriate first person pronoun is meant to come across as childish. or realising midway through a conversation that a character that's being talked about is actually the character being talked to because you can just use a person's name instead of "you" in japanese apparently for instance in japanese goku uses 'ora' usually but uses 'ore' when he's in serious business super saiyan mode. this is completely impossible to translate directly, but oh boy, have i seen some terrible fan attempts at it.
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Mar 9, 2024 23:05
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MechaX posted:They did get the old YYH dub crew together for that short OVA covering the actual last manga arc and everyone sounds as they should, even Kuwabara Really? I'll look into that, thanks.
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Mar 9, 2024 23:16
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what we call pronouns in english don't really have an analogue in japanese. in english pronouns are basically second in rank to articles, i.e. they're really important structural glue words without which we can't really form complex thoughts. in japanese you don't refer to someone unless it would be ambiguous who you're talking about, and you wouldn't use words that aren't names to refer to someone that's not you unless you have a good reason, otherwise you'd sound strange and probably impolite; they're pretty much just standard nouns in that regard, used for pretty specific purposes
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Mar 9, 2024 23:20
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mycophobia posted:what we call pronouns in english don't really have an analogue in japanese. in english pronouns are basically second in rank to articles, i.e. they're really important structural glue words without which we can't really form complex thoughts. in japanese you don't refer to someone unless it would be ambiguous who you're talking about, and you wouldn't use words that aren't names to refer to someone that's not you unless you have a good reason, otherwise you'd sound strange and probably impolite; they're pretty much just standard nouns in that regard, used for pretty specific purposes
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There's no way he intends to use...That...
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