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Some Guy TT posted:why did you include the first line about the general fearing an uprising if your interpretation is that he represents broad power 
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Buck Wildman posted:what the heck is happening itt Will Menaker said he didn't like Poor Things in his movie podcast and now we are experiencing Discourse.
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Mar 9, 2024 17:42
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Weembles posted:Will Menaker said he didn't like Poor Things in his movie podcast and now we are experiencing Discourse. disgusting. there ought to be a law
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Mar 9, 2024 17:43
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*checking 100+ pages of posts with zero punctuation or capitalization* Yeah, this is someone who I can engage and have a cogent discussion with
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Mar 9, 2024 17:45
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Cael posted:*checking 100+ pages of posts with zero punctuation or capitalization* Yeah, this is someone who I can engage and have a cogent discussion with this mf likes punctuation
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Mar 9, 2024 17:46
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Mar 9, 2024 17:46
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chiming in to say "checked out at sex work is work but not a job" welp peace out
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Mar 9, 2024 17:55
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Plank Walker posted:The publishers decided in the 00s that the market for video games in the US was entirely spike tv viewers/male 18-25 demographic. People were fuming mad that Wind Waker had colorful graphics and outside of Nintendo, no one was even trying to make games that weren't washed in some shade of brown in the name of "realism". The bolded is key. I was trying to think of counter examples but the two that popped in my mind were very japanese, capcom's veiwtiful joe and namco's Katamari Damacy. Pretty big hits but yeah. Not western. It took the indie scene and The Orange Box to probably break things open in the very late 00s. Braid of all games comes to mind. Even then it would still take a half-generation before call of dookie styles receded. You could probably call out all of american popular media as having that dark-gritty-brown problem too. Thinking how Lady Gaga was kind of an explosion simply because she decided to bring back capital p Pop aesthetics and eurotrash into the forefront. I was in college and overnight all the fratbros suddenly loved going to raves and dressing bright. quote:poor things man this movie sounds pretty rad? Also if anyone wants trippy wild metaphors for sex and love they should check out seijun suzuki's zigeunerweisen and kagero-za. Ive read its part of a loose trilogy but havent seen the third movie (yumeji) yet. Kagero-za loving slaps.
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Mar 9, 2024 17:59
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Mar 9, 2024 18:11
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veepfake posted:chiming in to say "checked out at sex work is work but not a job" welp peace out Quiet quitting is when you don't bother faking an orgasm
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Mar 9, 2024 18:23
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loquacius posted:Quiet quitting is when you don't bother faking an orgasm quarterly evaluations are coming up so for the next couple weeks i'll make a big show of it to juice my numbers
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Mar 9, 2024 18:25
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Some Guy TT posted:why did you include the first line about the general fearing an uprising if your interpretation is that he represents broad power yes thats an accurate reflection of the nature of state power in a capitalist system
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Mar 9, 2024 18:27
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Weembles posted:Will Menaker said he didn't like Poor Things in his movie podcast and now we are experiencing Discourse. lmao is that what is going on here? I had similar behaviors as a kid where I just parroted whatever my older brother said because clearly he was right that Daft Punk and Nirvana suck.
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Mar 9, 2024 18:28
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:my older brother said because clearly he was right that Daft Punk and Nirvana suck. was he listening to alan jackson or what
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Mar 9, 2024 18:29
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Cael posted:*checking 100+ pages of posts with zero punctuation or capitalization* Yeah, this is someone who I can engage and have a cogent discussion with i find my oratory to be consummate in its cogency. im sorry if you require proper punctuation to have a discussion but you wont find my syntax lacking
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Mar 9, 2024 18:33
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Mar 9, 2024 18:35
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scary ghost dog posted:yes thats an accurate reflection of the nature of state power in a capitalist system if state power in a capitalist system is so weak it collapses on its own in the face of a literal baby just contradicting it im a little surprised capitalism is even still a thing
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Mar 9, 2024 18:35
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Some Guy TT posted:if state power in a capitalist system is so weak it collapses on its own in the face of a literal baby just contradicting it im a little surprised capitalism is even still a thing yes. capitalism will inevitably collapse. this is an axiom generally accepted by marxists.
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Mar 9, 2024 18:38
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i say swears online posted:was he listening to alan jackson or what these opinions were not uttered at the same time but when he didn't like Nirvana he was hugely into like... Wynton Marsalis.
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Mar 9, 2024 18:41
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scary ghost dog posted:yes. capitalism will inevitably collapse. this is an axiom generally accepted by marxists. TT barely escaped the clinton and epstein net
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Mar 9, 2024 18:42
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:these opinions were not uttered at the same time but when he didn't like Nirvana he was hugely into like... Wynton Marsalis. lol
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Mar 9, 2024 18:47
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Some Guy TT posted:if state power in a capitalist system is so weak it collapses on its own in the face of a literal baby just contradicting it im a little surprised capitalism is even still a thing The capitalists are afraid of a dead guy who mostly slept all day pointing out the most basic of contradictions
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Mar 9, 2024 18:49
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:these opinions were not uttered at the same time but when he didn't like Nirvana he was hugely into like... Wynton Marsalis. nooo
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Mar 9, 2024 18:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDI2X6ByhF0
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Mar 9, 2024 18:52
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scary ghost dog posted:yes. capitalism will inevitably collapse. this is an axiom generally accepted by marxists. thats a very charitable reading given the themes poor things has regarding the inevitably and obviousness of progress the aim of that scene strikes me less as signifying the finality of marxist analysis and more the popular quote of how the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice this is what i mean when i say that poor things represents a fantasy it doesnt have any actual lessons for how to stand against power because nearly every obstacle bella runs across crumples like a paper bag against the slightest effort on her part and by the end there isnt even a pretense that the society she lives in will impede her in any way except to the extent that its not just solving poverty on its own i guess now to be quite clear i dont think poor things is trying to act as a blueprint or metaphor for how to stand against actual power and im not sure anyone else here thinks that either theres a reason why i agree with all of you when youre trying to actually analyze the text instead of just collapsing extremely broad concepts like "people need jobs in order to live in a society" as if these were insightful social criticisms and not mundane aspects of the premise about as interesting as the observation that bella needs to eat food in order not to starve to death
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Mar 9, 2024 18:56
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Yes, the surrealist piece of media is a metaphor and representative and not instruction. The book has a better ending because the movie did end up going Hollywood happy ending
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Mar 9, 2024 18:58
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Some Guy TT posted:thats a very charitable reading given the themes poor things has regarding the inevitably and obviousness of progress the aim of that scene strikes me less as signifying the finality of marxist analysis and more the popular quote of how the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice interesting. i dont believe this satirical comedy is attempting to provide a blueprint for marxist resistance either. i think its trying to make fun of the various social constructs that have evolved over time by constructing situations where a literal baby-brained woman is able to identify their contradictions. if you wish to conclude that the movie is trying to teach anyone anything, i would assert that the lesson it wishes to impart is that you can intuit dialectical materialism, but you must be trained to fit in to a capitalist system.
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Mar 9, 2024 19:08
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Gumball Gumption posted:Yes, the surrealist piece of media is a metaphor and representative and not instruction. i agree! havent read the book tho im kindof curious to because the framing device alone probably does a lot to change the interpretation
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Mar 9, 2024 19:12
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eyyyyyyyy man i hate broad power too you know what i mean
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Mar 9, 2024 19:17
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Telluric Whistler posted:I think he's an insurance salesman who is best friend with Shaq O'NEAL and so he represents bad jokes that are good memes, which is Poor Things
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Mar 9, 2024 19:47
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Buck Wildman posted:what the heck is happening itt this thread has become quite Urksome
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Mar 9, 2024 19:53
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shhh, not while i'm critically analyzing media
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Mar 9, 2024 19:56
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Al! posted:eyyyyyyyy man i hate broad power too you know what i mean i say swears online posted:shhh, not while i'm critically analyzing media
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Mar 9, 2024 20:19
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https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1766516978833907720?s=20
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Mar 9, 2024 20:39
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why would cotton be coming back
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Buck Wildman posted:why would cotton be coming back because thats what the ai drew
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Mar 9, 2024 20:43
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is it just me or does something about that image look off i want to say it seems really bright but i dunno if thats the best word for it
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I don’t recall cotton grabbing asses
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