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Timby posted:They pitched a Borg Queen origin story for an episode of the fifth season of Enterprise, they absolutely did. Shatner doesn't know what a Borg or Defiant is. Were they going to say she was originally human?
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A good poster posted:Were they going to say she was originally human? A science officer on Enterprise, yes.
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lmao https://trekmovie.com/2024/03/09/picard-season-2-was-rewritten-after-paramount-deemed-it-too-star-trek-says-ep/ quote:‘Picard’ Season 2 Was Rewritten After Paramount Deemed It “Too Star Trek,” Says EP
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Yeah that's the problem with it, LA is too sci-fi and shoehorning in some aliens under strained anachronistic pretenses is too Trek.
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Mar 10, 2024 01:23
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A bar where aliens meet? Insane. What about a bar where an alien character summons another alien character using a magic bottle? Now that's graspable
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Mar 10, 2024 01:36
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What if Star Trek but filmed behind my house?
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Mar 10, 2024 01:41
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pik_d posted:lmao Bullllllllshit. Lol that the biggest difference he can mention is that the bar had a secret teleporter for aliens on safari. Hilarious that the network deemed there was even more nonsensical crap "happening in the backdrop" that the viewer should be spared. Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Mar 10, 2024 |
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Mar 10, 2024 01:41
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Imagine if the alien-hunting FBI agent
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About whatever happened to Jurati's Borg:Terry Matalas posted:We did have a line on the Enterprise-D from Riker [...] We had a whole thing about it. But when we got to the cut, it was just like this big exposition dump that was like, nobody cares. His son is on board, Starfleet is assimilated. There’s this giant thing and now we are retrofitting and explaining the Jurati Borg.  Yes, if there's anyone out there who hates little nods to continuity, and explanations that tie up these in-universe questions, it's Trekkies.
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Mar 10, 2024 01:57
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he should just post explainers on instagram like chabon
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Riker: "We could try contacting Queen Jurati." Picard: "I tried. She's pouring all of her Collective's resources into terraforming a new home." Okay, pay me the big bucks now, Hollywood
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Mar 10, 2024 02:16
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holefoods posted:he should just post explainers on instagram like chabon God, Chabon's "well, actually, it makes perfect sense, you just didn't pay enough attention" screeds were so obnoxious.
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Mar 10, 2024 02:31
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Timby posted:God, Chabon's "well, actually, it makes perfect sense, you just didn't pay enough attention" screeds were so obnoxious. Reminds me of "no our show isn't too dark it's just most viewers don't have the right TV's to see our show." That the last season of GoT wheeled out.
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Mar 10, 2024 02:34
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What if like 24 people were not credited as EPs and 16 of them had not left already before any broadcasts? No, you are all steamed hams!
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Monica Bellucci posted:What if like 24 people were not credited as EPs and 16 of them had not left already before any broadcasts? This gets lobbed at Discovery quite a bit and I don't think it's quite fair. I just turned on a random episode of Law & Order, and in the opening credits there were a total of 26 people credited as producer, executive producer, co-executive producer and associate producer.
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Mar 10, 2024 03:10
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Timby posted:This gets lobbed at Discovery quite a bit and I don't think it's quite fair. I just turned on a random episode of Law & Order, and in the opening credits there were a total of 26 people credited as producer, executive producer, co-executive producer and associate producer. I think you may have just proven the point...
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My understanding of executive producers in modern TV is that most of them are just investors in the show where their only involvement is writing a check at the start and collecting royalties at the end
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The Chairman posted:My understanding of executive producers in modern TV is that most of them are just investors in the show where their only involvement is writing a check at the start and collecting royalties at the end Executive producers are the people actually running the show (yes, in television, the executive producer(s) outrank the producers). Producers / associate producers are generally writers who have been promoted to supervisory roles.
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Timby posted:Executive producers are the people actually running the show (yes, in television, the executive producer(s) outrank the producers). Producers / associate producers are generally writers who have been promoted to supervisory roles. This is making me realize that while I have a faint, fuzzy, outdated idea of what a director does (I imagine them sitting in a folding canvas chair and yelling "action" or "cut" through a big megaphone), I don't have the slightest loving idea what any of these producers or associate producers or executive producers actually, you know, do.
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Powered Descent posted:This is making me realize that while I have a faint, fuzzy, outdated idea of what a director does (I imagine them sitting in a folding canvas chair and yelling "action" or "cut" through a big megaphone), I don't have the slightest loving idea what any of these producers or associate producers or executive producers actually, you know, do. Like I said, in TV, the executive producer(s) are the people in charge of every aspect of the show: Supervising the writers and reviewing scripts, casting, budgeting, etc. Occasionally, executive producers will be credited for being involved in creating a show (like Bryan Singer on House, for example, or Bryan Fuller, who still gets an EP credit on Discovery despite being fired before a single frame of film was shot). Co-executive producers are a step down and handle a lot of logistical stuff and also writing. Same with associate producers--they're writers who have proven their mettle and have some supervisory role in the writing staff, often mentoring rookie staff writers.
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Powered Descent posted:About whatever happened to Jurati's Borg: he is consistent in a weird fashion here. he loves (sending others off to go) mining irrelevant references from other shows, he just hates having to acknowledge whatever happened in the previous season of this show. pik_d posted:lmao "i really wanted to make picard season 2 more like men in black, but, like, the man thought it was too much. i had all these great ideas i couldn't do for reasons completely out of my control" alright, how much loving cocaine does this guy do?
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pik_d posted:lmao I don't believe any of this. It is crystal loving clear to who watched S2 that none of what they described would have ever happened because they had no loving budget for that season.
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8one6 posted:I don't believe any of this. It is crystal loving clear to who watched S2 that none of what they described would have ever happened because they had no loving budget for that season. It's like a teenager in the late 90s/early 00s making a Star Trek show in his head on wishes and dreams, only he got to try and make it for real and proved in the process why you don't hire the kid who ran around the set of Enterprise getting Brannon Braga his early, mid, late and even later afternoon coffee as he ripped his hair out and contemplated suicide to make a big boy Star Trek of his own because... he loving sucked at on a behind the scenes level. Chabon ran the show better and he got loving steamrolled into oblivion trying to do it. This is probably why #StarTrekLegacy ain't happening. Kurtzman can't square the circle of "how do we replicate a Picard Season 3 audience draw without the shitshow mess Matalas left in his wake trying to make it?"
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Seriously though all these post-mortem interviews reek of Matalas finally getting it through his head that his spin off is not happening so he's just spilling deets on what a shitshow his two season of Picard were behind the scenes in the most self-effacing way possible and still coming off like a giant knob.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:he just hates having to acknowledge whatever happened in the previous season of this show. This is literally the only positive i have to say about the writing of season 3. I am very much pro burying or contradicting things that suck, canon be damned. Shame about the rest though.
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Facebook Aunt posted:The Arbor in arboretum refers to trees. This is supposed to be the tree room. But they can't have trees because the ceilings are too low. I always liked the idea that these things on the back of the saucer were skylights for the main arboretum. 
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Some dumb admiral must be responsible for calling this an arboretum instead of a botanical garden.
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Why did rebuilding the bridge cost so dang much anyway? Like yeah they have to upscale it for UHD, add more detail, but were they implementing real LCARS or something
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Maxwell Lord posted:Why did rebuilding the bridge cost so dang much anyway? Like yeah they have to upscale it for UHD, add more detail, but were they implementing real LCARS or something No idea, but again, take it from the man himself: It was a binary choice between "hire a bunch of actors for scenes that would make mouthbreathing TNG era fans lose their poo poo" or "build the D-Bridge", and the money went to the D-Bridge. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Mar 10, 2024 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:Why did rebuilding the bridge cost so dang much anyway? Like yeah they have to upscale it for UHD, add more detail, but were they implementing real LCARS or something
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pik_d posted:lmao
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I think part of the expense was that they were recreating something made with techniques and materials that are no longer in use, was minimally documented, and slavish devotion to accuracy made it that much more time consuming and costly. It's also a single use set that can't be used elsewhere to spread around cost, unlike how while you get the Stargazer, Titan and Enterprise-F out of one set with just a bit of redressing
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DaveKap posted:I wanna know what dipshits at Paramount actually gave enough of a gently caress to even give the show notes. It IS weirdly reassuring to know that after all this time of calling Picard Season 2 then Anti-Star Trek season, it was in fact made to be an Anti-Star Trek season by executive mandate.
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DaveKap posted:I wanna know what dipshits at Paramount actually gave enough of a gently caress to even give the show notes. I know suits can be infamously obtuse but I do not believe this story in the slightest
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Seemlar posted:I think part of the expense was that they were recreating something made with techniques and materials that are no longer in use, was minimally documented, and slavish devotion to accuracy made it that much more time consuming and costly. That's exactly it. People have to research the blueprints, source the materials, dig up the blueprints, and then people have to actually, y'know, build the loving thing, except now it has to stand up to HD quality, which the TNG set didn't. Which is why the the D bridge on Picard cost so much loving money.
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Timby posted:That's exactly it. People have to research the blueprints, source the materials, dig up the blueprints, and then people have to actually, y'know, build the loving thing, except now it has to stand up to HD quality, which the TNG set didn't. Which is why the the D bridge on Picard cost so much loving money.
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8one6 posted:I don't believe any of this. It is crystal loving clear to who watched S2 that none of what they described would have ever happened because they had no loving budget for that season. Hard same. Even if it was true, how the gently caress would a Star Wars cantina rip-off scene really improve the pile of poo poo that is season 2? If anything the suits at Paramount were right to be like “uh hey this is way too much, what the gently caress are you doing?”
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DaveKap posted:Yeah I forget if it was you who said it or if I read/heard it elsewhere but all the work put in towards rebuilding the set included a chunk of work to make it so that if they ever wanted to do it again, it could be done in a much more manageable way that would be a fraction of the price. Correct. People have to be paid for their time, and there were a lot of people involved in re-constructing the bridge, which is why the cost was so high. The set was struck but the actual pieces are currently in storage.
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Haven't people built 1:1 replicas of the D bridge that they probably would've let Paramount use practically for free just for the bragging rights? Or is it one of those "we don't have absolute control over it and/or it's not explicitly designed for filming" things?
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So again was Twelve Monkeys just some kind of collective delusion, a case of a show being buoyed along by hype about how good people think it is, or did Matalas just have some insanely talented and with it people around him to act as guiderails for the show? Or did he just get high on his own supply and let the euphoria of "holy poo poo I'm making a Star Trek show all by myself, no Brannon Braga and Rick Berman to hold me down this time!" just completely unmoor him from reality and people had to yank him back and go "You can have the bar, but you can't have the aliens because that costs money we don't have, Terry."
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Haven't people built 1:1 replicas of the D bridge that they probably would've let Paramount use practically for free just for the bragging rights? I think the guys at Ticonderoga have built/are building one? They’ve definitely said they want to do more than just TOS there, which is great.
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