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Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

Become Meguca

e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrgxHDoe8gA

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



It was very rainy in my area today.


Very much like Mary's neighbor! You see, there was rain in his life but now the sun has come out because he found a new family!

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Even Musk himself still calls it Twitter. It's got to be one of the worst jobs of rebranding ever.

Pogo 7/7-9/52

Pogo was filing daily columns during convention season in Chicago, which got printed in papers that ran the strip. I've appended them for the curious.





7/7
7/8
7/9

Archie 10/17-19/49





The Virtue of Vera Valiant 3/28-30/77




I don't think the phrase is used much anymore, but back then a gangster "taking you for a ride" meant they were taking you somewhere remote to knock you off.



Winthrop: Still useless.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Selachian posted:

Winthrop: Still useless.

Careful now, that's a CPA you're talking about.

Julet Esqu
May 6, 2007




Murdstone posted:

Mary Worth



Ah, yes. Our famously beige California Poppies.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

So loving Creepy And Weird And Manipulative And Invasive But That's Okay It's December And This Is The Crimble Stuff

















The Only Good Forrest Gump Content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQwWaWFjd0Y

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE

Leaving aside the obvious about how it's not history's biggest tragedy if someone doesn't have your perfect traditional wedding? Don't ship toddlers you weirdo.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Hostile V posted:

So loving Creepy And Weird And Manipulative And Invasive But That's Okay It's December And This Is The Crimble Stuff

This lining up with the actual planning of Fiona and Rudy's own wedding is... interesting.

Also, future Turvy will be taller than Rudy? Is there an actual in-universe reason Rudy is still the same size he was when he was 14?

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

catlord posted:

This lining up with the actual planning of Fiona and Rudy's own wedding is... interesting.

Also, future Turvy will be taller than Rudy? Is there an actual in-universe reason Rudy is still the same size he was when he was 14?
His mom's a wolf and his dad's a fox, maybe he just got the small genes from his dad, who knows.

Also yeah I loving hate time is a flat circle in Hellworld and there's gonna be 3 more years of waffling until they're like "gently caress it let's marry".

Caphi posted:

Don't ship toddlers you weirdo.
Real people do this and I hate that every time.

Hippocrass
Aug 18, 2015

That third panel of the first comic just makes it. It's still funny if you remove it, but that panel included just makes it top tier.

Murdstone posted:

Mary Worth




God Shut up already!

The Family Upstairs/The Dingbat Family(September 10, 1910)



Baron Bean(March 11, 1916)



Polly and Her Pals(February 8, 1913)



Gasoline Alley(November 1, 1919)



Us Boys(March 9, 1912)



The Gumps()

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
Turvy's giving me flashbacks of Chelonia, the woman with the sauropod neck from Safe Havens On the Fastrack.





"We've had this conversation before, Turvy. Please stop bringing it up. Enjoy your reception."

maltesh fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Mar 10, 2024

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Hippocrass posted:

Gasoline Alley(November 1, 1919)




Went immediately to this photo of my grandfather (right) sitting with his future father- and brother-in-law, on the running board of the senior's 1930 Oldsmobile, 9/6/31

PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Mar 10, 2024

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Murdstone posted:

Mary Worth



If I was writing this strip I'd do another three weeks of victory lap, just because I can.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

They keep almost transitioning into a new story and it’s driving me crazy. Like, I keep waiting for Dr. Jeff to remark on the importance of family and mention how one of his patients is having trouble with their family members or is also a veteran but has ptsd or something like that.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
Ungh, been apartment shopping so posting comics completely fell off the radar.


Crabgrass












Welp, guess this is the new normal now. It's a bold move but I support it.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Oh my god it's so cute and smart to convey a body swap by having them wearing each other's clothes.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
Big Nate








Now hang on, I want to see where this is going.



He's right. This is doubly true at work.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Poil posted:

Or you could just use a freaking airport bus. But that might be too simple and functional for braindamaged tech bros.
This is what they ended up being, more or less. The actual original idea was that the mobile lounge would take you directly from the main terminal to your plane - you'd board directly from the mobile lounge. I'm unclear how long this actually lasted, or even if it was ever actually used that way, though there's definitely photos of it having been used that way:

In any case, flight volume became too great for this to really be viable, so they eventually built midfield concourses with regular jetways and now the mobile lounges are:

Murdstone posted:

They're basically glorified buses, right? I never even heard of them called mobile lounges, I always called them shuttles.
Mobile lounge is definitely the official name for what it's worth. Eero Saarinen included them in his original concept for the airport, and they were supposed to be a new, innovative concept to move people onto planes (as the comic says!). As it is, they're pretty dumpy and I think the plan is that once the new concourse D is built, they'll extend the AeroTrain to that and eliminate them entirely.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Betty would have chosen murder-suicide with Archie, choking against each other's faces. True love.

Medenmath
Jan 18, 2003
Prince Valiant

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

Julet Esqu posted:

Ah, yes. Our famously beige California Poppies.

They wilted at the lich's approach

Strontium
Aug 28, 2009

Dexter didn't much care for the party.
Daddy Daze


Take It From The Tinkersons


Macanudo


Dark Side Of The Horse

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
nu Flash Gordon's pacing is a bit confusing, where it's clear the writer is in a hurry to move the plot along and yet it still has to do the weekend special "here's what you missed" recaps in case a reader only reads the Sunday funnies

I guess that comes from adhering to a newspaper format for a de facto web audience, where one can always read yesterday's strip by clicking a link. No short term memory loss recaps every day

riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
Heathcliff


Compu-toon


Garfield


Overboard


Monty


For Better or For Worse


Classic Arlo and Janis (April 07, 2002)


On The Fastrack


Safe Havens


Zippy The Pinhead


Rae The Doe, which you can support by pledging to the author's Patreon

Hippocrass
Aug 18, 2015

That third panel of the first comic just makes it. It's still funny if you remove it, but that panel included just makes it top tier.
Noticed I forgot to post the Gumps earlier.

The Gumps(April 7, 1017)

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Holy poo poo, I laughed at a Monty.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Corto Maltese





Blueberry



Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

ronya posted:

nu Flash Gordon's pacing is a bit confusing, where it's clear the writer is in a hurry to move the plot along and yet it still has to do the weekend special "here's what you missed" recaps in case a reader only reads the Sunday funnies

I guess that comes from adhering to a newspaper format for a de facto web audience, where one can always read yesterday's strip by clicking a link. No short term memory loss recaps every day
Personally I'm fine with NuGordon's pacing; it keeps poo poo moving without being the blitzing "wait who is this, what are we doing, TOO LATE WE'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE NOW" pace of Gil Thorpe that I have completely given up on following.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Dan Schkade's Flash Gordon is fast without being disorienting. Like most competent narrative strips, it advances the story by one step per day, but Schkade takes bigger steps. He gets away with this because (as discussed above) he establishes more narrative detail in a single panel than your average soap manages in three - which means that more elements of the story are "in play" at once, being developed within that step. That, in turn, means that less time elapses between reappearances of background elements that remain relevant. Leveraging the weekly cadence by having a recap every Sunday helps to reinforce the overall flow and context, but it's kept from being just a redundant summary by switching the viewpoint every time, a decision which also justifies the increased use of narration boxes, which help to condense the ideas even further so they fit in just a third as many panels. This kind of narrative economy, habitually cramming in more story per picture and per sentence, is incredibly difficult, but I daresay he's been practicing a lot.

The thing about daily format comic strips is that they set a constant tempo. The cartoonist has a rectangle of fixed dimensions, usually subdivided in the same way, and they're tasked with filling each one with an amount of entertainment that's consistent at least in quantity, even if we're inured to variations in quality. It's natural and comfortable to size the strip to the smallest unit you can deliver: setup - elaboration - punchline. There's still a pressure to economize, but usually they approach it in a Bushmillerian way: simplify, clarify, remove extraneous detail. Occasionally, though, you see someone ambitious, who knows that, from the right perspective, four panels is actually a lot, and they economize instead by making maximum use of it. I think that Bob Montana's Archie is another strip in this thread that shares this quality, even though it's a completely different genre.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



...I can see the similarities in pacing between Montana's Archie and nu-Gordon, too. Good insight.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Malachite_Dragon posted:

Personally I'm fine with NuGordon's pacing; it keeps poo poo moving without being the blitzing "wait who is this, what are we doing, TOO LATE WE'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE NOW" pace of Gil Thorpe that I have completely given up on following.

I don't think the problem with Gil Thorp is the pacing, exactly. It's more like the focus and lack of information. Comics like Mary Worth get criticised for repeating stuff and having characters say each other's name too frequently and overexplaining in the narration and so on, which does seem odd if you read them in a big chunk, but it means you can easily tell what's happening. Gil Thorp frequently leaves characters unnamed in the text for long stretches, jump forward in time and to different perspectives (without narration), runs concurrent storylines, and has a large and frequently changing cast of characters. It's not too fast, it's just hard to follow.


Imagine you just started reading it recently:

Feb 23 we're in Gil's house. They're eating dinner. Someone called Mimi is just arriving. Next day the kids are leaving for what appears to be an extended trip, Gil's mother and someone called Robin arrive unexpectedly. In the next strip Gil says "mom's here" which is confusing because his mother just arrived but he's actually referring to his kids' mother. Is this Mimi? I assume so but I don't know and it's not clarified. Gil talks to his mother and I guess Robin is his brother (who is always travelling with their mother)? On the 28th we finally get enough information to make sense of everything that just happened.

There's a couple more strips where nothing really happens and then suddenly Gil's at the airport, working on a plane, and a woman approaches and talks to him. They clearly know each other but we don't know how much time has passed or who she is. Their conversation kind of follows on from the one Gil was having with his brother, but that's all the context we have for it. Then Gil's flying a plane and continuing the same conversation as though absolutely no time passed at all. He's literally hearing the answer to the question he asked in the last panel of the previous strip. This is a trick TV shows and movies do a lot that you don't think about because the scenes are cut together so there's no gap, but there's a whole day between these strips and if you're not following closely you've got to go back for the context so you notice the incongruity.

The next day we abruptly cut to a bar some unknown time later. We actually get a character's name as they appear here so that's helpful but it's undercut by the first panel being entirely pointless and introducing another unnamed character (who, in this case, is not important at all). Then we time jump again. In TV there would be a slow scene transition but once again this does not work in a daily comic - at least not without some narration. Beth asks Gil if he's seeing anyone, which confused me because I had assumed this was a date but apparently it isn't, because Gil doesn't seem fazed.

A couple of days later we've jumped forward again and here are some more characters. You could assume that the basketball players aren't important but two of the four panels are devoted entirely to the game. And the guy Gil is actually talking to is not named or identified in any way.


I tried following it when Barajas took over the writing but I find it impossible. Reading one strip a day as it's published, I have absolutely no idea who anyone is or what's going on.

ellie the beep
Jun 15, 2007

Vaginas, my subject.
Plane hulls, my medium.

Bongo Bill posted:

Occasionally, though, you see someone ambitious, who knows that, from the right perspective, four panels is actually a lot, and they economize instead by making maximum use of it.

specifically the deliberate use of foreground and background to carry secondary threads i want to highlight with flash gordon - he's been playing with them such that four panels can be equivalent to six, half again faster than four and twice as fast as the three-panelers while staying in the same space - compare against our other blisteringly-paced gil thorp which does *not* make good use of panel depth

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.

Cowslips Warren posted:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck loving Twitter. I tried to send a message to the guy that does Flash, and because I never use Twitter, it threw a fit and made me take some loving match game to prove I wasn't a bot. Anyone else got a better way to send this author and artist some love?

edit: sorry, X. Why the gently caress is it called X now?

Last things first: because 25-ish years ago, someone told Elon Manbaby he couldn't call PayPal X because all the focus groups hated the name and it reminded them of porn, and he's been nursing a grudge about it ever since. Personally, X without a modifier behind it reminds me of placeholders for unsolved algebra or bad-faith product comparisons in old commercials.

Also, Dan Schkade's on Bluesky too, so there's an easier way to get to where you're going.

Anyway, Mutts.





Peanuts (March 13, 1977)


Behold, the last mention of Shermy in a Peanuts comic strip. His last in-panel appearance was June 15, 1969 (unless that's supposed to be him in the the November 9, 1975 strip, and I'm not convinced). I'd say we missed him, but...well...

EasyEW (eight or nine threads ago) posted:

Life's harshest blow: The art that got cut to make this into a tabloid layout was Shermy's last in-panel appearance ever.





He was the only kid with lines in the first strip, but there were three kids in that first strip, and he was the last one of them to be given a name. So it goes.

Crankshaft


Thimble Theater (October 12, 1940)


Popeye

EasyEW fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Mar 10, 2024

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
with newspaper funnies it's a given that the audience is not paying close attention to the medium, and also doesn't have ready access to past strips: hence repeated recaps every day. The larger full-colour Sunday strip summarizing the entire past week, potentially re-using the week's art, is specific to the medium

conversely, webcomics have an interested audience who will pick apart each strip before the next

I don't think Flash Gordon's pacing is bad, but I thought it remarkable that it's obviously the latter whilst leveraging the appearance of the former for nostalgic effect

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Esa Ahto



Nancy


Dustin

Kennel fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Mar 10, 2024

Pancho Jueves
Aug 20, 2007

BEST FRIENDS!!
Pluggers


If I were in a marriage where I was one of my husband's favorite food groups, I wouldn't sleep easily either.

Forum accident
Jun 15, 2006

All hail Thor...the THUNDER GOD!
Frank and Ernest


(3/18/1994)


(3/19/1994)


Ziggy


(10/2/1971)

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Rhymes with Orange



Get Fuzzy 3/9/04



Brenda Starr 10/16-18/52





Smokey Stover 4/3/60



Everyday Movies 4/28/37



"You'll have to sneak out in the hall and borrow another light bulb."

Invisible Scarlet O'Neil 4/15-17/43





Closer Than We Think! 4/3/60

Selachian fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 10, 2024

Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.
Pickles


Hagar the Horrible


Zits

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Bizarro


The Family Circus


Slylock Fox


Flash Gordon

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