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Rubellavator posted:It's telling that these people will all say what what Israel is doing is awful but will only pop in when a new way for them to criticize Hamas emerges exactly this, but I would expand it to any criticism of Palestinian resistance
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V. Illych L. posted:the point is not to maintain face on the internet. if that had been my point i would've just not posted things which are unpopular in the threads in which i post them. the point is that engaging in politics generally involves dealing with normal people who don't take for granted that e.g. the UN investigators would just make stuff up, and it's useful to consider how one's arguments frame the opposition's argument. for this, it's useful to analyse the opposition's argument and identify where they're most vulnerable instead of just blundering along Counterpoint - DTI DTA
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hey mom its 420 posted:AA just keep winning. legends New thread title!
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I’ve particularly enjoyed watching that Kalit guy twist themself in ever more complicated knots as they run the most un-subtle both sides Hasbara I’ve ever seen. yesterday they were making up a scenario where Joe Biden really did believe a ceasefire was incoming but then loads of really unlikely stuff happened and he’d NEVER lie he’s our president-san. how much do eurogoons see support for Israel in their daily life, out of interest? because I (northern England) haven’t seen a single bit of Israeli support since October 7th in real life which is very nice I gotta say.
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V. Illych L. posted:the point is not to maintain face on the internet. if that had been my point i would've just not posted things which are unpopular in the threads in which i post them. the point is that engaging in politics generally involves dealing with normal people who don't take for granted that e.g. the UN investigators would just make stuff up, and it's useful to consider how one's arguments frame the opposition's argument. for this, it's useful to analyse the opposition's argument and identify where they're most vulnerable instead of just blundering along People might not take for granted that UN investigators might make something up, so rather than getting them to understand that might be the case, I will in fact just concede the argument and allege that at least some rapes surely must have taken place. This is liberalism. You just want to avoid conflict.
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Jakabite posted:I’ve particularly enjoyed watching that Kalit guy twist themself in ever more complicated knots as they run the most un-subtle both sides Hasbara I’ve ever seen. yesterday they were making up a scenario where Joe Biden really did believe a ceasefire was incoming but then loads of really unlikely stuff happened and he’d NEVER lie he’s our president-san. i still see people flying israeli and ukrainian flags in canada lol
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:People might not take for granted that UN investigators might make something up, so rather than getting them to understand that might be the case, I will in fact just concede the argument and allege that at least some rapes surely must have taken place. This is liberalism. You just want to avoid conflict. if i were trying to avoid conflict, why would i take this position itt of all places
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VIL says that he's doing this because he's a loving moron and hell, I believe him
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you’ve got to be pretty brave to come out and say that there is no actual proof that hamas had a policy of necro-raping and dismembered titty football
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Jel Shaker posted:you’ve got to be pretty brave to come out and say that there is no actual proof that hamas had a policy of necro-raping and dismembered titty football hamas military strategy written by cannibal corpse
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30.5 Days posted:VIL says that he's doing this because he's a loving moron and hell, I believe him also people keep inventing stuff about my posts about this for convenience, which i think is bad manners and displays a lack of Posting Honour
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im a huge moron too but i still dti, whats this clown's excuse
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hey mom its 420 posted:AA just keep winning. legends I like this mini scarf, what is it called and where can I get one?
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apparently another flotilla is going to Gaza https://twitter.com/Robert_Martin72/status/1766740218307354733
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V. Illych L. posted:if i were trying to avoid conflict, why would i take this position itt of all places D&D brain (calm Quisling).
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V. Illych L. posted:if i were trying to avoid conflict, why would i take this position itt of all places thank you sir for your brave stance of 'hamas raped people'
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LOOOLLLL Hamas just released footage on aljazeera showing them deploying Mortar armed Drones, flying over and successfully dropping bombs and hitting Israeli Command center in BEIT HANOUN, the town on the very very north of gaza that israel entered on day one of the ground invasion. Hamas is successfully returning to combat zones that israel thought was safe, combat zones that israel entered from months and months ago, and fighting back and they are gonna win. =========== Urgent | Al Jazeera shows scenes it obtained of a Qassam march throwing two mortar shells using drones at an Israeli command headquarters east of Beit Hanoun https://x.com/AJABreaking/status/1766817546571784692?s=20 https://x.com/AJABreaking/status/1766806334521954475?s=20
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Clip-On Fedora posted:They should all just loving leave Nothing is more boring to read than another example of My Journey Into Forming My Opinions, so I apologize in advance. Hamas taking civilian hostages was (and I guess continues to be) a war crime. I just don’t give a gently caress about it anymore. Make Tel Aviv Jaffa Again would be ethnic cleansing. And obviously this would be a crime against humaWHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND MOTHERFUCKERS Israel’s actions after October 7 have proven it to be an ongoing threat to the lives and security of everyone in the region. And it’s not being done by a dictator or king - the voting public approves of every atrocity and wants more. Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Arabia, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Iran, Turkey - however far you want to draw the circle - should not have to tolerate a regime committed to a policy of ongoing and future war crimes. Zionist Israel is as intolerable as apartheid South Africa, white supremacist Rhodesia, or Nazi Germany. It has to go. My preferred solutions are a secular Palestine with freedom of religion enshrined in the constitution, or a demilitarized Jewish state with the 1947 borders under the supervision of the United Nations. Neither of these would involve the ethnic cleansing of majority-Jewish areas. But it’s, um, optimistic to think this would be done without resistance in favor of the current regime. Then what? I also don’t think these are entirely academic possibilities anymore, since Israel now seems entirely bent on defeat in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank. What will protect Israel? The skill, courage and intelligence of the IDF? Which brings us to Tel Aviv. Gerard Weinberg’s World War II history “World At Arms” addressed the topic of the bombing of German and Japanese cities, and concluded that since the aerial destruction of civilian cities was an Axis innovation, well, tough poo poo. The same line of thought was applied to the Polish-German border after the war. Since the Germans were committed to the idea of moving people to fit borders, rather than the other way around? Karma, dude. I know this makes me sound hideous, but because of what Israel has done to Gaza, because that is so clearly what they have planned for Lebanon and the West Bank, and because of the sheer number of opportunities Israeli citizens will have to choose an off-ramp between today and when Palestine plays the Uno-Reverse card and presents the butcher’s bill? Tel Aviv’s fate will be the biggest Who Gives a poo poo since Sherman beautified Atlanta. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Jai Guru Dave has issued a correction as of 15:10 on Mar 10, 2024 |
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Jai Guru Dave posted:Tel Aviv’s fate will be the biggest Who Gives a poo poo since Sherman beautified Atlanta. Atlanta burned down because of fleeing confederates and looting as much as any deliberate Union destruction. I expect Tel Aviv to end up the same way.
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boo boo bear posted:I meant Khan was more independent in terms of foreign diplomacy, more neutral and looking to develop relationships all across the region as opposed to the chokehold that the isi had for the last few decades. lets not overthink it. Imran Khan's biggest threat was that his reputation and independent base of support.
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Jakabite posted:I’ve particularly enjoyed watching that Kalit guy twist themself in ever more complicated knots as they run the most un-subtle both sides Hasbara I’ve ever seen. yesterday they were making up a scenario where Joe Biden really did believe a ceasefire was incoming but then loads of really unlikely stuff happened and he’d NEVER lie he’s our president-san. sorry, misread
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is there an updated death toll? I know counting basically stopped at 30,000 because Palestinians had been so bombed and their various systems of health and governance destroyed so there was no longer a count, but the massacres have continued since then, plus starvation. this past week Ralph Nader used the number 200,000 dead, which seems plausible, but I’m not aware of what source he was using for that. is there an updated death toll?
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Al-Saqr posted:america deserved 9/11 and deserve every atrocity that will be committed against them https://www.axios.com/2024/03/10/biden-red-line-gaza-palestinians now “another 30,000 dead” is the “red line” what a loving disgusting beast, what an abomination of a country. the individuals that make up America may not deserve punishment, but the country as an organization needs to feel God’s wrath for what it has done e
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its gonna remain 30,000 civilians until huh theres nobody left in gaza what happened to everyone ?
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AJ dropping a big expose shortly showcasing the timeline on October 7th https://twitter.com/AJIunit/status/1766830909058076706
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V. Illych L. posted:not only is this a complete misrepresentation of my posting it's also a completely paranoid way of thinking You're carrying water for them and not even getting paid for it. Maybe figure out why and get back to us. E: I'm not even calling you out, it's just an example of how you can get brainwormed even if you hate Israel. Strep Vote has issued a correction as of 16:27 on Mar 10, 2024 |
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Death By The Blues posted:AJ dropping a big expose shortly showcasing the timeline on October 7th Guessing it's gunna be dashcams showing heavy weapons lighting up all that burned out traffic.
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Grilled Beef posted:is there an updated death toll? I know counting basically stopped at 30,000 because Palestinians had been so bombed and their various systems of health and governance destroyed so there was no longer a count, but the massacres have continued since then, plus starvation. this past week Ralph Nader used the number 200,000 dead, which seems plausible, but I’m not aware of what source he was using for that. No, Nader's guess is the best we've got and fwiw my own optimistic guess was 100k.
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Grilled Beef posted:death toll? no no, its 'death to israel' please get it right
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Strep Vote posted:No, Nader's guess is the best we've got and fwiw my own optimistic guess was 100k. Which is particularly brutal because I have no doubt that the 30k number, and how slow it is going up, is influencing policy right now
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naders article had a number of quotes/sources from un agencies and aid agencies, we already know theres 10s of thousands under rubble and who knows how many dying from famine and is also based on the famine etc my own guess is 100k or more
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100k is ~4% of the population based off of the 2022 estimate that Wikipedia uses, ~5% of the 2020 estimate that Google returns And like people have said, it's a reasonable lower estimate given the complete breakdown of essential services. I'll be honest if I was in that situation and my loved one died, the last thing that I'm going to stress about is trying to get their body to a hospital so that it can be added to the tally
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Tankbuster posted:lets not overthink it. Imran Khan's biggest threat was that his reputation and independent base of support. now lemme tell ya about my theories on mj and ye...
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Dixon Chisholm posted:thank you sir for your brave stance of 'hamas raped people' this is not my stance, this is the stance of a figment which people have invented presumably because it's easy to get mad at it
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Your mistake is approaching this with an academic's sensibilities instead of just joining the rest of us and going full ape, which may or may not be wise but it's certainly the place for it
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neuter jizzrael
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Ytlaya posted:I recommend using Twitter like I do - only reading tweets people post in SA threads. I trust random C-SPAM users more than the Twitter algorithm. this
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Elias_Maluco posted:He is right. gently caress western civilization I like “pantomime democracy” as a phrase
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