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denken passing because, for a very brief moment, he thought "I could take her" is one of my favorite parts of this arc
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wdarkk posted:One of my friends correctly guessed that the third test will be "Serie says if they pass or not" based purely on the amount of anime remaining. She's also pretty much correctly guessing who will and won't pass. I'm so proud of her. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Kanne won't pass. (Good for your friend though, that is cool)
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Mar 10, 2024 07:16
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I mean, you can basically just ask "which of these people has a future as a professional badass" and that will get you the correct answer in every case except Frieren.
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Mar 10, 2024 09:02
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I like that the new first rank mages are brought back to the story, establishing that even among the top mages they're still newbies forced to do dumb busywork, while the more senior first rankers are off doing something more important or enjoying life or something.
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Mar 10, 2024 09:41
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Presumably the senior first rank mages have to do Serie’s hair, make sure she gets up before noon, and keep her budget under control.
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Mar 10, 2024 10:13
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Babe Magnet posted:denken passing because, for a very brief moment, he thought "I could take her" is one of my favorite parts of this arc Most of the passes were really good, I was gonna say Serie just glancing at Ubel, and passing her without any discussion, but then I remembered the sheer audacity of Land’s review. One of the funniest things in the manga.
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Mar 10, 2024 10:44
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Yeah, that's mine. I love her almost disgust at Land's bullshit. Followed by "Pass".
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Mar 10, 2024 10:56
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yeah, the glowup that the anime got for the fight scenes in the second test in particular was excellent. but my favorite part of this arc by far is what's going to be covered in the final two episodes
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Mar 10, 2024 11:02
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MonsterEnvy posted:What has she gotten wrong if it's only pretty much. Just being unsure if Wirbel and Ubel will pass.
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Mar 10, 2024 15:39
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sharkmafia posted:yeah, the glowup that the anime got for the fight scenes in the second test in particular was excellent. but my favorite part of this arc by far is what's going to be covered in the final two episodes 
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Mar 10, 2024 16:09
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Mulva posted:Yeah, that's mine. I love her almost disgust at Land's bullshit. Followed by "Pass". It's great because her personal feelings aside, she still acknowledged both his sheer chutzpah and ability to execute, which are two of her highest priorities for judging magecraft. She only lets personal feelings get in the way when it comes to Frieren, because Frieren is the only person who's ever gotten under her skin.
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Mar 10, 2024 17:46
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I love love love the 3rd exam, I reread it all the time. Every single person that passes has a great character moment. usenet celeb 1992 posted:It's great because her personal feelings aside, she still acknowledged both his sheer chutzpah and ability to execute, which are two of her highest priorities for judging magecraft.  I love that Frieren is already on her way out lol
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Mar 10, 2024 18:22
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Serie is really childish and petty, but she does stick to her principles. Hence Methode's examination: "Uh, OK, you're weird. But I did say I'd pass anyone whose first reation wasn't fear so uh, yeah you're in."
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Mar 10, 2024 18:36
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Serie is really childish and petty, but she does stick to her principles. Hence Methode's examination: "Uh, OK, you're weird. But I did say I'd pass anyone whose first reation wasn't fear so uh, yeah you're in." Serie really liked Methode, as Methode became one of her personal pupils after that.
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Mar 10, 2024 18:39
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Methode is specialized in counter-spell. She's like playing against that one blue deck from MTG. Of course Serie would love an rear end in a top hat like that.
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Mar 10, 2024 18:58
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A common refrain I'm hearing from anime only discussions is that "Serie's right! She's just making sure dangerous magic is kept out of the wrong hands!" Ubel: <walks in> Serie: Pass Ubel: <walks out> 
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Mar 10, 2024 19:36
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Serie is really childish and petty, but she does stick to her principles. Hence Methode's examination: "Uh, OK, you're weird. But I did say I'd pass anyone whose first reation wasn't fear so uh, yeah you're in." I like Serie, because while she is stubborn, petty and incredibly arrogant, she is capable of changing her opinions, once she realizes she got owned. She sulked for a thousand years, but once Frieren defeated Demon King and proved to her that Flamme was right, she did come out and began leading and teaching human mages as Flamme wanted. And once again, she was fully prepared to fail everyone, but once Frieren showed her the potential of humans through Fern, she passed all contestants after her, because she could now see the potential in everyone (poor Kanne, if her turn was later, she would be a first class mage running around with a "Call Rain" spell  )
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Mar 10, 2024 20:07
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Doodles posted:A common refrain I'm hearing from anime only discussions is that "Serie's right! She's just making sure dangerous magic is kept out of the wrong hands!" Wirbel <walks in> Serie: Magic? Wirbel: Murder Serie: gently caress yeah <finger guns>
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Mar 10, 2024 20:13
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Serie: Next Methode:  Serie: Oh, FFS... pass
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Serie:... Methode: Serie: youre thinking about how small and cute I am and how you want braid and/or brush my hair arent you Methode: well since you admitted that, yes Serie: ew pass
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Lt. Lizard posted:I like Serie, because while she is stubborn, petty and incredibly arrogant, she is capable of changing her opinions, once she realizes she got owned. She sulked for a thousand years, but once Frieren defeated Demon King and proved to her that Flamme was right, she did come out and began leading and teaching human mages as Flamme wanted. And once again, she was fully prepared to fail everyone, but once Frieren showed her the potential of humans through Fern, she passed all contestants after her, because she could now see the potential in everyone (poor Kanne, if her turn was later, she would be a first class mage running around with a "Call Rain" spell I don't think so. Pretty sure only those people would have passed.
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Mar 10, 2024 21:01
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I mean I'm still of the opinion that there are many very low power mages out there that just live their lives but use their magic for various small things, some probably to be their village's "magic person who can make our grapes sour to make our special wine" and such. All of these little spells that Frieren is collecting seem to be the equivalent of folk art.
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Mar 10, 2024 21:04
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Hedge wizards, yeah. As useful as these spells are I assume they don't actually get spread around that much due to the probable cost and effort involved in creating a grimoire. Be nice if one of Frieren's long term goals was finding a way to make mass distribution easier.
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Mar 10, 2024 21:15
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MonsterEnvy posted:I don't think so. Pretty sure only those people would have passed. The Kanne thing was tongue in cheek, but the whole point was that Serie was going to fail everyone, because she was convinced that they all succeed only by riding on Frieren's coattails, until she met Fern. If say, Denken, was evaluated before Fern, Serie would absolutely fail him, IMHO.
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Mar 10, 2024 21:48
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Which chapters were the exam? I’m trying to find them to reread.
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Mar 10, 2024 22:01
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Lt. Lizard posted:The Kanne thing was tongue in cheek, but the whole point was that Serie was going to fail everyone, because she was convinced that they all succeed only by riding on Frieren's coattails, until she met Fern. If say, Denken, was evaluated before Fern, Serie would absolutely fail him, IMHO. yes, it's admirable in a way that serie was willing to acknowledge people's talent even though it meant that frieren won the argument she may have banned frieren from her club for a thousand years because she was pissed off about that, but she didn't fail anyone else out of spite
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Darth TNT posted:Which chapters were the exam? I’m trying to find them to reread. If you want the entire exam (all 3 parts I mean), it's from 37 to 58
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Mar 10, 2024 22:54
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Lt. Lizard posted:The Kanne thing was tongue in cheek, but the whole point was that Serie was going to fail everyone, because she was convinced that they all succeed only by riding on Frieren's coattails, until she met Fern. If say, Denken, was evaluated before Fern, Serie would absolutely fail him, IMHO. Yeah, just saying I don't agree. Frieren stated that Serie has excellent judgement.
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Mar 10, 2024 23:56
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah, just saying I don't agree. Frieren stated that Serie has excellent judgement. I don't see Serie checking every chest for rare folk magic grimoires, so her judgment can't be that great.
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Mar 11, 2024 00:11
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah, just saying I don't agree. Frieren stated that Serie has excellent judgement. Frieren also outright tells Serie that she knows Serie is intending to fail everyone and Serie agrees. And while Frieren was confident that Serie would pass Fern, that's about it as far as she was concerned. After Fern, Serie changes her entire demeanor and actually engages with the participants, instead of failing them with barely a glance like she did before Frieren and Fern.
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I like the idea that if a non-mage managed to get to Serie they could pass just by pulling a knife on her.
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Mar 11, 2024 00:57
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Doodles posted:A common refrain I'm hearing from anime only discussions is that "Serie's right! She's just making sure dangerous magic is kept out of the wrong hands!" "These hands look wrong enough." Still, it's less being argued that it's kept out of the wrong hands in the Ubel sense than it's being kept out of the wrong hands in the sense that people wouldn't be able to survive the situations they get into. And Ubel is, if nothing else, at least good at looking after herself.
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Mar 11, 2024 01:05
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Lt. Lizard posted:Frieren also outright tells Serie that she knows Serie is intending to fail everyone and Serie agrees. And while Frieren was confident that Serie would pass Fern, that's about it as far as she was concerned. After Fern, Serie changes her entire demeanor and actually engages with the participants, instead of failing them with barely a glance like she did before Frieren and Fern. Serie knew who was going to pass or fail the second they stepped through the door and saw her because that's all it takes. She was biased towards failing everyone because of Frieren's presence skewing the results, but Frieren's presence doesn't change who these people inherently are. Serie administered the third exam personally because she couldn't believe that there would be that many people worthy enough to be First Class on their own merit to get this far, and apologized to Sense afterwards because she realized that no, there really were enough special people this time around; it was just harder for her to notice because of Frieren. Up until she got to Fern, everyone Sense saw was someone who wasn't meant to be a first class mage anyways so they would have failed regardless if Frieren was there or not, including Frieren.
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I mean, i agree generally, but frieren is the exception she's obviously 'worthy' of being a first class mage, but she's the one person that serie actually is willing to fail out of spite. because frieren, though a powerful mage, is completely uninterested in serie's worldview and is both willing and equipped to directly contradict her on it. which really gets under serie's skin
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sharkmafia posted:I mean, i agree generally, but frieren is the exception Frieren thought Serie would fail her out of spite, but the spiteful move would have been for Serie to pass her. They showed Kanne failing and getting the reason why: "you can't even visualize yourself being a first-class mage". Frieren bumblefucked her way in to the mage exams to begin with and then met Serie with zero expectations of passing, and the first thing Serie pointed out was Frieren being unable to visualize herself being a first class mage either. Frieren was right that Serie's instincts have always been correct, and Serie was correct on failing Frieren. Frieren didn't want it, so she didn't get it.
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frieren doesn't see any value in being a first-class mage, and she sees the system that serie has designed to choose first-class mages as largely worthless. But she did want to be a first-class mage, if only because it would let her go where she wanted to go. serie failed frieren not because frieren couldnt visualize herself being a first-class mage but because frieren revealed in her answer to serie's question that she's still totally uninterested in buying what serie is selling. The reason why frieren couldn't visualize it was important. It's not because frieren didn't think she was 'worthy' of it, but because she thought serie would fail her due to their philosophical and personality conflict. Which she did. what frieren represents is not an 'applicant' for serie's system, but the best representation of an entirely different system of magical philosophy than the one serie thinks is obviously correct. serie finds this really annoying, both because she sees frieren as 'wasting her potential,' and because despite this frieren has been able to accomplish things that serie could not.
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Lt. Lizard posted:The Kanne thing was tongue in cheek, but the whole point was that Serie was going to fail everyone, because she was convinced that they all succeed only by riding on Frieren's coattails, until she met Fern. If say, Denken, was evaluated before Fern, Serie would absolutely fail him, IMHO. Serie said that more people reached the third-stage exam than normally would have, but she didn't suggest that everyone was unsuitable. Just that their normal third-stage exams would kill too many of the examinees. And as Frieren said, Serie's instincts are always right. Her failing everyone before Fern is probably just coincidence (in-universe, anyway - it's obviously really for dramatic effect), because all the people she tested before Fern were sane (and most of them were no-names who'd barely appeared before). All the people who were powerful enough or unhinged enough to not be absolutely terrified of Serie's mana came after Fern did.
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Yeah like the people she failed were Kanne, the two people who were with Wirbel and kept running out of mana, and the mustached guy who's only real feat was being good at running away, and Laufen. I wouldn't really say any of them would have passed even if they had gone after Fern
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Jerkface posted:i hope the anime is like very slow paced, minimally animated montages with beautiful hand painted backgrounds, followed by the briefest interludes of just the most insane sakuga animation beam fights ever put to paper. Re-reading some of the thread and drat nailed it. I can't believe how hard they went on all the fights.
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