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Trabisnikof posted:there's a bad guy in a house in the woods, do you: This might end up as the first defense tech that fails sale to a military but succeeds as a circus act. Maybe second if “guy in a cannon” was once pitched as tactical insertion.
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Trabisnikof posted:there's a bad guy in a house in the woods, do you: This is essentially the plot of Lone Survivor. The Navy Seals decided to do a helicopter insertion because they didn't want to go hiking for three days and that was a big part of what hosed everything up.
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Weka posted:Is there some actual reason that jetpack doesn't just put the jets on a frame sticking out of each side of the pack? Not only would it allow you to computer control flight stabilization but you could control it with one hand or even your mouth or feet. Probably only one outfit keeps doing it (keep clicking the wrong tech tree) , everyone else thinks is such a dumb solution. Yeah why not use your thighs to control it?
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Source: CNN https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html Exclusive: Russia producing three times more artillery shells than US and Europe for Ukraine By Katie Bo Lillis, Natasha Bertrand, Oren Liebermann and Haley Britzky, CNN 6 minute read Published 12:00 AM EDT, Mon March 11, 2024 Russia appears on track to produce nearly three times more artillery munitions than the US and Europe, a key advantage ahead of what is expected to be another Russian offensive in Ukraine later this year... ... US and Western officials insist that although Russia has been able to jump-start its factory lines, in part because it has the advantage of being a managed economy under the control of an autocrat, capitalist western nations will eventually catch up and produce better equipment...
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fizziester posted:Source: CNN They got to say that right? But in reality the rounds the Russians are producing are even higher that in reality, they clearly still have stockpiles, and it doesn't even include the North Korean shells. I really think not only the Ukrainians but NATO itself got high on its own supply due to the Kharkov/Kherson offensives and really thought they could smash the orcs based on largely false open source intel (i.e the leak). They have no plan B and at best they can say "some day it may get better, who knows."
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mlmp08 posted:This might end up as the first defense tech that fails sale to a military but succeeds as a circus act. Circus cannons on the side of a herculus? Airborne clown corps lets make it happen.
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fizziester posted:Source: CNN kinda surprised, and a little disappointed, it's only 3x tbh
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Hmmm didn't we just list some SEALS who officially fell off a ladder boarding? Maybe they already did manage to sell some of these things lol
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BearsBearsBears posted:This is essentially the plot of Lone Survivor. The Navy Seals decided to do a helicopter insertion because they didn't want to go hiking for three days and that was a big part of what hosed everything up. Their plan to "mask" the insertion was just to run lots of fake sorties for a few days prior. The intent of telegraphing their play was to get the enemy accustomed to the choppers so they wouldn't investigate lol. DancingShade posted:Circus cannons on the side of a herculus? Airborne clown corps lets make it happen. All Helldivers to hellpods.
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DancingShade posted:Bicycles. I hope you boys know how to pedal. Didn't this work out rather well for the Japanese in Malaya.
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Z the IVth posted:Didn't this work out rather well for the Japanese in Malaya. Spectacularly well.
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Megamissen posted:bicycle infantry should be brought back yeah but how do we make tactical bicycles
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gradenko_2000 posted:yeah but how do we make tactical bicycles 
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gradenko_2000 posted:yeah but how do we make tactical bicycles you can bolt picatinny rails onto anything
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We cannot allow a bitchin' sidearm gap, deploy the DMR pistol. 
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gradenko_2000 posted:yeah but how do we make tactical bicycles high end mountain bikes with some racks added and a paint job
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Owlbear Camus posted:you can bolt picatinny rails onto anything I mean bike infantry sometimes used bikes to support crew served weapons as a sort of platform.
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Megamissen posted:high end mountain bikes with some racks added and a paint job Montague bikes are legit p sick, but I can only imagine how much they are charging on military contracts.
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mountainbiking is very popular, it might help with recruitment too
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Orange Devil posted:I mean bike infantry sometimes used bikes to support crew served weapons as a sort of platform. The Vietnamese used to load up the frames with gear and push them through the jungle to run effective supply lines I think
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Forseti posted:The Vietnamese used to load up the frames with gear and push them through the jungle to run effective supply lines I think Used as a "mule" a bike can carry hundreds of pounds, it was really effective.
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Regarde Aduck posted:kinda surprised, and a little disappointed, it's only 3x tbh The actual article says that Russia today is producing 3x more than all of NATO's dreams for the future, not what NATO actually does. Note for example the article mentions a German plant that will definitely produce 200k a year, while Rheinmetall months ago said that they are now working on an order of 300k for Ukraine and expect it to be ready by 2027.
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Z the IVth posted:Didn't this work out rather well for the Japanese in Malaya. The other thing that gets brought up in the context of the rapid Japanese advance down Malaya was their willingness to use human beings as sponsons for shallow bodies of water. Troops would jump into the water, as long as it wasn't more than chest high, and they'd hold up planks of wood on their shoulders, and the rest of the troop would cross, using the planks as stepping stones.
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To be slightly fair to the Swedish CBJ concept, the original idea was "Take a very compact firearm that you give to non-infantry support personnel, but make it more useful than a 9mm pistol or SMG by chambering it in 6.5 CBJ. The 6.5 CBJ will be much more effective against hard armour, and we don't need to give a big rifle to people who rarely train with rifles in the first place. The 6.5 CBJ only requires a barrel swap & different magazines in the same weapon, so you can train these personnel with cheap 9mm, but easily swap it to 6.5 when needed." This was in the late 2000s, so 9mm SMGs or pistols issued to rear echelon or support personnel was the norm. It still is today, but some countries have started swapped to issuing full sized rifles or carbines to replace 9mm weapons. FF, did you have a full sized C7 or a smaller C8 btw? In practice though, the normal 6.5 CBJ round was indeed better than 9mm, but nowhere nearly as good as they hoped for, especially for the armour penetration. They had to use a special 6.5 CBJ round that uses tungsten to achieve their armour penetration targets, so uh, nowhere near as cheap or easy to obtain as they hoped. Reliability in short barreled carbines & suppressors with such systems is much better than it was. Rifle rounds out of very short barrels are very concussive & loud, so suppressors would be a good idea. I would argue that a Mk18 barrel length carbine with a good suppressor and maybe a few extra days training would be better for these military roles, but I'm just a civilian nerd with too much time on their hands. Livo has issued a correction as of 08:19 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:The actual article says that Russia today is producing 3x more than all of NATO's dreams for the future, not what NATO actually does. For a time they were saying North Korea was shipping them 3 million a year and they were shooting the Ukrainians 10 to 2k and now they are saying the Russians are producing 3 million and shooting the Ukrainians 10 to 2k. It very well may be the Russians are saving exactly half of their shells or just these numbers are all bit cut and pasted and it is unclear what is going on.
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gradenko_2000 posted:The other thing that gets brought up in the context of the rapid Japanese advance down Malaya was their willingness to use human beings as sponsons for shallow bodies of water. Troops would jump into the water, as long as it wasn't more than chest high, and they'd hold up planks of wood on their shoulders, and the rest of the troop would cross, using the planks as stepping stones. Life is cheap in the orient. Livo posted:To be slightly fair to the Swedish CBJ concept, the original idea was "Take a very compact firearm that you give to non-infantry support personnel, but make it more useful than a 9mm pistol or SMG by chambering it in 6.5 CBJ. The 6.5 CBJ will be much more effective against hard armour, and we don't need to give a big rifle to people who rarely train with rifles in the first place. The 6.5 CBJ only requires a barrel swap & different magazines in the same weapon, so you can train these personnel with cheap 9mm, but easily swap it to 6.5 when needed." This was in the late 2000s, so 9mm SMGs or pistols issued to rear echelon or support personnel was the norm. It still is today, but some countries have started swapped to issuing full sized rifles or carbines to replace 9mm weapons. FF, did you have a full sized C7 or a smaller C8 btw? I don't doubt it, it's just they were like 10 years behind FN's 5.7mm and HK's 4.6mm when they started development. Even of those, FN has only truly been successful selling their pistol, the PDW seems mostly to have equipped BC based Sci-Fi shows, and conversely HK's pistol was a flop, though the MP7 has had very strong sales. All of that to say, with two competitors already locking each other out of the market with their proprietary cartridges, Bofors would have been better selecting one of those instead of trying to develop and market a new cartridge. I was issued a C7. C8s were, still are, much rarer than you'd think compared to the M4. Around 2010, I think, we had the folding vertical grips installed as part of the Gunfighter program. No 203s in the rifles issued to the battery, and C79s on all of them. I think my receiver was stamped 1987, it's been a while since I had that all memorized. We had an armourer who was really on the ball so we also had rubber rifles to issue to command post personnel on exercises which was a real quality of life boost. Around... 2000 something, we gave most of the C7A1s to the ANA, though they ditched them for Romanian or Bulgarian AKs right after. I believe we gave many of the C7A2s that had been turned in for C8s to the Ukrainians in 2022. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 14:18 on Mar 11, 2024 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:Their plan to "mask" the insertion was just to run lots of fake sorties for a few days prior. The intent of telegraphing their play was to get the enemy accustomed to the choppers so they wouldn't investigate lol. An incredible example of projecting their own excuse-based thinking on others. Assuming that giving the time to invent an excuse will cause them to ignore the problem. So deep in self deception that they’ve forgotten the basic mechanics of deceiving other.
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They also forgot their rope at the LZ, revealing that an insertion was made and it wasn't a feint.
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Weka posted:Is there some actual reason that jetpack doesn't just put the jets on a frame sticking out of each side of the pack? Not only would it allow you to computer control flight stabilization but you could control it with one hand or even your mouth or feet. Apparently people who use them say once you get the hang of it it's actually fairly intuitive to use, it's like asking why bicycles aren't gyro stabilized so you can sit idle with your feet off the ground
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Owlbear Camus posted:Their plan to "mask" the insertion was just to run lots of fake sorties for a few days prior. The intent of telegraphing their play was to get the enemy accustomed to the choppers so they wouldn't investigate lol. DJJIB-DJDCT posted:They also forgot their rope at the LZ, revealing that an insertion was made and it wasn't a feint. the best of the best of the best years of specialized training $100k+ loadouts
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The crew chief apparently asked if they wanted him to cut the rope or haul it back up, no one bothered to instructed him so he just went with SOP leaving a coil of rope like the volume of a 55 gallon drum in the middle of open ground. Also there's a lot of evidence that Luttrell was uh, let's say a bit of a fabulist about how much of a fight they were able to offer and the size of the opposing forces. Can't have a narrative where our elite drug dealers get got without it being a heroic stand against a horde of orcs outnumbering them 50:1.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/DocStrangelove2/status/1766163221092913200?t=g0ucpiegVpWGG2fNWxnm-A&s=19 you drop some of these dudes onto putler's SCVs while he is microing in Ukraine and it's a wrap
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Egg Moron posted:you drop some of these dudes onto putler's SCVs while he is microing in Ukraine and it's a wrap that's just his expansion base idiot he's massing siege tanks and battlecruisers at his main
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wouldn't you be doing the equivalent of holding your body up by your shoulders the whole time you're using the jetpack things and woudn't the weight of whatever gear you're carrying be included in that lol no one is using these for anything ever
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StashAugustine posted:Animorphs stays winning
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Best part of that jetpack is the framing of the shot lets you imagine he descended from the sky, and then took off again, when he was really just hovering like 2 feet the whole time
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Soapy_Bumslap posted:Best part of that jetpack is the framing of the shot lets you imagine he descended from the sky, and then took off again, when he was really just hovering like 2 feet the whole time that and the "soldier is unable to move, shoot, or hear for only 22 seconds during exfil! how great!!"
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