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Cubs badding Jr
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Mar 11, 2024 06:13
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Non Compos Mentis posted:didn't realise that cuba was a nutjob
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Mar 11, 2024 06:46
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His career had been trending down ever since the Oscar win. He just became determined to never pick another good script ever again. By this point there wasn't much career left to destroy.
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Mar 11, 2024 08:28
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Snowman_McK posted:His career had been trending down ever since the Oscar win. He just became determined to never pick another good script ever again. By this point there wasn't much career left to destroy. He was also like the fourth best nominee of the year he won.
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Mar 11, 2024 08:44
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This is probably a good place to note that in addition to the other past accusations against him, Cuba Gooding Jr was just implicated in a music producer's sweeping case against P Diddy. Specifically, the plaintiff, Rodney “Lil Rod” Jones, claims that Cuba sexually harassed and assaulted him: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2024-02-28/diddy-lawsuit-sexual-harrassment-explainer quote:The actor who, Jones claims, made sexual advances toward him on Diddy’s yacht after Diddy’s “grooming him to pass him off to his friends.”
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Mar 11, 2024 09:48
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He was OK in the oj Simpson dramatization produced by Ryan Murphy but I recall when it came to performance even travolta was out shining him
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Mar 11, 2024 10:08
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His performance was kind of minor, he was mostly passive outside of a few scenes. He never got lost in the role or was believable as anyone other than Cuba Gooding Jr. Similarly, David Schwimmer was also just playing David Schwimmer, but at least he did so in a fun and ridiculous way. Cuba was mostly just sorta on set. Travolta's performance was pretty abysmal in terms of being believable or acting like the actual Robert Shapiro, but he was absolutely electrifying and extremely loving weird in a really compelling way.
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Mar 11, 2024 14:04
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To me he was the weakest part of that series, and a lot of it is because he's so tiny compared to the actual OJ
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Mar 11, 2024 14:08
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The only thing I ever got an angry email from my internet provider for pirating was the OJ Simpson American Crime Story show. As a result, I never got to finish it, but Simpson was so clearly guilty so I’m sure it ended predictably.
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Mar 11, 2024 14:16
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Baron von Eevl posted:His performance was kind of minor, he was mostly passive outside of a few scenes. He never got lost in the role or was believable as anyone other than Cuba Gooding Jr. Similarly, David Schwimmer was also just playing David Schwimmer, but at least he did so in a fun and ridiculous way. Cuba was mostly just sorta on set. Travolta gave a pitch-perfect performance for the show he was in.
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Mar 11, 2024 14:41
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Baron von Eevl posted:His performance was kind of minor, he was mostly passive outside of a few scenes. He never got lost in the role or was believable as anyone other than Cuba Gooding Jr. Similarly, David Schwimmer was also just playing David Schwimmer, but at least he did so in a fun and ridiculous way. Cuba was mostly just sorta on set. It's been years since I've seen it, but I remember Schwimmer being really convincing as a guy slowly realizing that his best friend is a murderer.
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Mar 11, 2024 15:00
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Codependent Poster posted:I think the Razzies used to be all in good fun but now they just give off bad vibes They've been reactionary ever since the beginning. Also even early on they'd be dumb as bricks like the time they nominated Kubrick for worst director because The Shining wasn't 100% accurate to the book.
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Mar 11, 2024 15:13
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King really didn’t like The Shining because Kubrick actually did something cool with an otherwise just okay novel. I also suspect that Kubrick wouldn’t let him cameo in it, as he was doing in all his adapted movies at the time. Kubrick’s misunderstanding (?) of his own ending of that movie really bugged me after reading about it.
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Mar 11, 2024 17:28
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Hasturtium posted:Yeah, the Razzies aren’t grounded in a good-natured acknowledgement of how movies sometimes turn out badly, or even an effort to laugh when things go tits up. They’re tedious and hateful and frequently go after people who have a history of struggling with personal issues. They had the great timing to make a separate category for those straight to streaming cash-in movies Bruce Willis was doing right before news of his aphasia diagnosis came out.
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Mar 11, 2024 17:43
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Drunkboxer posted:They had the great timing to make a separate category for those straight to streaming cash-in movies Bruce Willis was doing right before news of his aphasia diagnosis came out. At least they walked this back and I believe did similar when they were picking on the under 18 crowd. But seriously, should've never made it past the meeting where it was presented as an option. Too mean spirited. Professor Shark posted:
Never heard this, can you clarify? Not very up on my Kubrick trivia
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Mar 11, 2024 18:27
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King didn't like Kubrick's film because in the book Jack is more or less a good dad who gets possessed but then actually fights the evil because he loves his family. And Kubrick just makes it clear Jack is an abuser and lovely dad from the start. And since the book was King working through his own guilt about addiction and how it affected his family that annoyed him. I'm guessing the thing about Kubrick "misunderstanding" his own ending is that he said the end photo means Jack was a reincarnation of past member of the hotel rather than just a new guy haunted and cursed by the hotel.
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Mar 11, 2024 18:45
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King’s commented quite a few timed about why he doesn’t like the film adaptation and I get the distinct impression it comes down to ego. As for the ending, yeah, it’s the “Another Jack lived in 1920 or whatever” instead of the “Once the hotel has you, you’ve always been here” thing the film lays out. I think he just forgot after he moved onto a new project tbh.
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Mar 11, 2024 19:15
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STAC Goat posted:King didn't like Kubrick's film because in the book Jack is more or less a good dad who gets possessed but then actually fights the evil because he loves his family. And Kubrick just makes it clear Jack is an abuser and lovely dad from the start. And since the book was King working through his own guilt about addiction and how it affected his family that annoyed him. This seems totally backwards though? The book has a big thing about how Jack hit Danny when he was hungover, and how him and his drinking buddy maybe killed a guy driving drunk (?). And IIRC Jack's own dad was a drunken abuser. So by the time the book starts we're all ready deep into the abyss of an abusive drunken piece of poo poo spiralling out of control. You can form more sympathy for Book Jack because the perspective offers interiority to the character, but he's not a good dad, and an even shittier husband. Film Jack however starts off fine, just having a drive with his loving family, he just descends rapidly once winter sets in. It's slightly skewed by Nicholson being naturally creepy as gently caress, but nevertheless
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Mar 11, 2024 19:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QgNuZcxTw
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Mar 11, 2024 19:24
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Failed Imagineer posted:This seems totally backwards though? The book has a big thing about how Jack hit Danny when he was hungover, and how him and his drinking buddy maybe killed a guy driving drunk (?). And IIRC Jack's own dad was a drunken abuser. So by the time the book starts we're all ready deep into the abyss of an abusive drunken piece of poo poo spiralling out of control. Its pretty heavily implied that Jack has already hit his kid in the first scene of the movie and the way he talks to and deals with his wife and kid is incredibly neglectful and intimidating. Its been a long time since I read the book so I was probably wrong to just call him a "good dad". I'd say its more that King's version is a dad who sucks because of his addiction but who feels guilty about it because he actually loves his family. And the ending of the book specifically has him sacrificing himself to save them. The movie just makes Jack a monster who never actually seems to see his family as anything but a nuisance. I love the movie. But its not hard to see why King doesn't like it and it doesn't have to be a either/or.
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Mar 11, 2024 19:29
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STAC Goat posted:I love the movie. But its not hard to see why King doesn't like it and it doesn't have to be a either/or. You're the one making it an either/or if anyone is! I like both, it's fine, I don't give a poo poo if Jack Torrance is a bad dad, he's not my dad
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Mar 11, 2024 19:31
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Failed Imagineer posted:This seems totally backwards though? The book has a big thing about how Jack hit Danny when he was hungover, and how him and his drinking buddy maybe killed a guy driving drunk (?). And IIRC Jack's own dad was a drunken abuser. So by the time the book starts we're all ready deep into the abyss of an abusive drunken piece of poo poo spiralling out of control. Probably should mention that there was a deleted scene: while Jack is interviewing at the Overlook, Wendy is talking with a friend about Jack breaking or dislocating Danny's arm while "roughhousing" and got fired from teaching for yelling at a student and how getting away to the Overlook will be the best thing for the family.
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Mar 11, 2024 19:40
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Young Freud posted:Probably should mention that there was a deleted scene: while Jack is interviewing at the Overlook, Wendy is talking with a friend about Jack breaking or dislocating Danny's arm while "roughhousing" and got fired from teaching for yelling at a student and how getting away to the Overlook will be the best thing for the family. Oh interesting I've never seen that. Surprised it didn't come up in that video-essay doc Room 237
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Mar 11, 2024 19:50
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Is that a deleted scene? I’ve seen that scene every time I watched the movie… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiDAieFCMsE
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Mar 11, 2024 19:53
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Young Freud posted:Probably should mention that there was a deleted scene: while Jack is interviewing at the Overlook, Wendy is talking with a friend about Jack breaking or dislocating Danny's arm while "roughhousing" and got fired from teaching for yelling at a student and how getting away to the Overlook will be the best thing for the family. Jack admits to hurting Danny while he’s drinking at the Overlook bar, but tries to chalk it up to a quirk of physics rather than being angry enough to break his own kid’s arm.
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Mar 11, 2024 19:55
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I always thought he was justifying it. Jack sucks lol. Psychopath rear end in a top hat. Glad he froze to death in the maze lmao
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Mar 11, 2024 19:58
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Ccs posted:I liked what Jonathan Glazer said in his Oscars speech. Very glad to see the director of a film about the horrors of the holocaust was not blinded by the specific group the horror was done to and was able to generalize it to modern day. I didn't watch the Oscar's but I thought no one actually mentioned the genocide in Gaza
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Mar 11, 2024 20:01
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Professor Shark posted:King’s commented quite a few timed about why he doesn’t like the film adaptation and I get the distinct impression it comes down to ego. it's actually because Kubrick kept prank calling him in the middle of the night during production (not making this up)
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Mar 11, 2024 20:03
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lol amazing
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Drunkboxer posted:They had the great timing to make a separate category for those straight to streaming cash-in movies Bruce Willis was doing right before news of his aphasia diagnosis came out. That had been an open secret a year or two before his family confirmed it and there's no way the Razzies hadn't heard of it before deciding to make that "joke." Shageletic posted:I didn't watch the Oscar's but I thought no one actually mentioned the genocide in Gaza Jonathan Glazer did it after The Zone of Interest won Best International Film. Curiously, it and the Best Sound award the film also won are the only acceptance speeches the Academy has not uploaded to their YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ymiyNmr1WY Pirate Jet fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 11, 2024 |
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Mar 11, 2024 20:08
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i dunno what would be funnier: if they were extra mean or of the "refrigerator is running" variety
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Mar 11, 2024 20:08
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Shageletic posted:I didn't watch the Oscar's but I thought no one actually mentioned the genocide in Gaza No, Glazer explicitly mentioned Gaza in his speech.
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Mar 11, 2024 20:10
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Enos Cabell posted:No, Glazer explicitly mentioned Gaza in his speech. Ah cool Pirate Jet posted:
Not so cool
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Mar 11, 2024 21:15
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Shageletic posted:Not so cool drat, didn't see that. Cowardly bullshit there.
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Mar 11, 2024 21:22
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CelticPredator posted:Is that a deleted scene? I’ve seen that scene every time I watched the movie… I think this scene was one of those excised from the shorter European cut. I'd never seen those cut sequences until the 4K UHD release, which is the 30 min longer US cut. I prefer the shorter cut myself as the US one feels a bit too long and some shots in the finale kind of bash the viewer over the head with "Ghosts!!".
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Mar 11, 2024 21:33
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Enos Cabell posted:drat, didn't see that. Cowardly bullshit there. Between that and the broadcast pixellating out the pro-ceasefire pins all night.... Absolutely loving garbage behaviour from a group of morally-bankrupt dullards. But ... That's Hollywood!
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Mar 11, 2024 21:37
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Riflen posted:I think this scene was one of those excised from the shorter European cut. I'd never seen those cut sequences until the 4K UHD release, which is the 30 min longer US cut. I prefer the shorter cut myself as the US one feels a bit too long and some shots in the finale kind of bash the viewer over the head with "Ghosts!!". Yeah, I was confused recently because I had seen it on streaming somewhere and it didn't have this scene, but I had remembered seeing it at some point.
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Mar 11, 2024 22:28
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Failed Imagineer posted:Between that and the broadcast pixellating out the pro-ceasefire pins all night.... Absolutely loving garbage behaviour from a group of morally-bankrupt dullards. But ... That's Hollywood! Pixellating out the pro-ceasefire pins, but including a neonazi in their in their In Memoriam. Pathetic organization.
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Non Compos Mentis posted:didn't realise that cuba was a nutjob I don’t think he’s faking the face in that poster, that’s just Cuba Gooding Jr now
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