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live with fruit posted:You throw out Schwarber's BA like his OBP isn't still good. Wasn't judging his effectiveness, just remarking on how times have changed
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Eric the Mauve posted:Wasn't judging his effectiveness, just remarking on how times have changed I like him third. He can cause some damage especially if you don't want to walk the bases loaded, so he'll get a lot in the zone if he has someone solid batting behind him.
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Mar 12, 2024 00:05
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Thought experiment: would it be theoretically possible to have a player with an OPS+ higher than their batting average?
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Mar 12, 2024 00:42
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Would take a drastic offensive drought among most of the other players, since OPS+ is expressed relative to league average or something like that; if everyone else is producing like an .050 hitter, a .100 hitter would presumably well above average and thus have an OPS+ higher than 100.
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Mar 12, 2024 00:52
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I mean, I guess conceptually like, a 0/.800/0 hitter fits, but an actual human being with anything resembling a human slash line would need just an absolutely putrid run environment to be batting anywhere near a better OPS+ than average
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Some Numbers posted:Thought experiment: would it be theoretically possible to have a player with an OPS+ higher than their batting average? Going 1 for 8 every 8 ABs, where the one hit is a home run BA of .125, OPS+ has to be higher than that....?
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that's still only a .500 slugging, so it's a .625 OPS, or like a tiny bit better than miguel rojas managed last season for the dodgers, and he had a 66 OPS+
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TheFlyingLlama posted:that's still only a .500 slugging, so it's a .625 OPS, or like a tiny bit better than miguel rojas managed last season for the dodgers, and he had a 66 OPS+ Bats 1 for every 8 ABs with a home run, walks eight times for each of those.
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Mar 12, 2024 01:31
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mdemone posted:Bats 1 for every 8 ABs with a home run, walks eight times for each of those. That's 1.063 OPS, which only Ohtani beat in the MLB last season. Ohtani's OPS+ was 184, so that would do it. e: Minimum PA requirement is 502, which would mean this player would need to walk at least 19 more times in a season than Barry Bonds did in 2004. Kevlar v2.0 fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 01:36
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Sydin posted:If I were to take a guess I'd say it's PCA > Caissie > Alcantara > Canario > Davis from most to least untouchable, although Caissie's been making quite the case since last year to be flipped with PCA. Alcantara is meanwhile still a lot of toolsy hype, Davis can't stay healthy, and Canario probably just gets squeezed out past a certain point unless there's a big OF injury or he proves he's a better 4th OF option than Tauchman. Iowa is gonna rake all day with my friends Pete Crow-Armstrong and Owen Caissie and Matt Mervis  Seriously though I don't mind Tauchman as a 4th OF. If it was Rossy again I'd worry about him getting more PT and keeping Belli at 1st but I'm more confident Counsell will be smarter about how to handle the CF 1B 3B situations.
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Some Numbers posted:Thought experiment: would it be theoretically possible to have a player with an OPS+ higher than their batting average? Player with the density of a neutron star, all thrown pitches immediately are pulled into his orbit causing HBP. But one time he swings and pops out just so his batting average is an actual number.
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Mar 12, 2024 01:50
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:That's 1.063 OPS, which only Ohtani beat in the MLB last season. Ohtani's OPS+ was 184, so that would do it. so all it takes is prime roids barry bonds with a 100% three true outcomes ratio
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Lord Of Texas posted:Player with the density of a neutron star, all thrown pitches immediately are pulled into his orbit causing HBP. But one time he swings and pops out just so his batting average is an actual number. He would only need one ball put in play to make it happen because his density would cause the ball to fly into him, making him out 
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Mar 12, 2024 02:15
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Lord Of Texas posted:Player with the density of a neutron star Assuming a person is a sphere with a radius of 26 cm (I curled up into a ball and had Poque measure me for an estimate) this player would have a mass of around 35,338,560,000,000,000 kg, which would make the player more massive than Mars's moon, Deimos.
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Mar 12, 2024 02:25
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Assuming a person is a sphere with a radius of 26 cm (I curled up into a ball and had Poque measure me for an estimate) this player would have a mass of around 35,338,560,000,000,000 kg, which would make the player more massive than Mars's moon, Deimos. hahaha I love the dedication.
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Mar 12, 2024 02:33
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Assuming a person is a sphere with a radius of 26 cm (I curled up into a ball and had Poque measure me for an estimate) this player would have a mass of around 35,338,560,000,000,000 kg, which would make the player more massive than Mars's moon, Deimos. For reference, that would be 273,942,326,000,000 tightly packed Bartolo Colons (at his possibly generous listed weight of 129kg)
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These are the metrics I crave.
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Intruder posted:He would only need one ball put in play to make it happen because his density would cause the ball to fly into him, making him out No, the escape velocity from that small a neutron star would be below the exit velocity off the bat Edit: I think. Actually it might be close in the logarithmic sense of the word. Sqrt(2GM/R) = Sqrt(2*6.67e-11*35e15/0.26^2) lol 8.3 km/sec never mind If the bat is one meter long, it's still 1.7 km/s but Shohei is always improving mdemone fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 03:37
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mdemone posted:No, the escape velocity from that small a neutron star would be below the exit velocity off the bat since you're good at this: what is the slowest possible pitch you can throw and have it be a called strike?
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Intruder posted:since you're good at this: what is the slowest possible pitch you can throw and have it be a called strike? All possible launch angles can land inside a vertical zone. Higher angles just need more velocity to get there, normal pitching angles would still satisfy. Drop time depends on height so.... 60 ft 6 inches = velocity * cos (launch angle) * time So in the limit where you have 45 degrees launch angle, because it's the local minimum in both horizontal and vertical velocity space, you need the time to be such that the drop is less than v_0*t - 1/2 gt^2 = one foot or so Looks like less than 60 ft/sec from my eyeballing it?
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Now do it with wind resistance and spin
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JD Davis won his arb hearing and the Giants released him after signing Chapman, and because of a loophole in the CBA they only have to pay him a much lower amount in termination pay Congrats bawfuls, the Giants are villains Intruder fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 04:28
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Intruder posted:JD Davis won his arb hearing and the Giants released him after signing Chapman, and because of a loophole in the CBA they only have to pay him a much lower amount in termination pay Yeah I saw this and it's bullshit: they got off the hook for close to $5M and while Davis is now a free agent, it's late as hell in spring and he's probably going to have to settle for less than what he would have gotten in arb given nobody chose to claim him off waivers. And like don't get me wrong he's not some superstar, but he was a slightly above average bat worth 2.2 WAR last year. I imagine the MLBPA will have something to say about this loophole the next time the CBA comes due.
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Intruder posted:JD Davis won his arb hearing and the Giants released him after signing Chapman, and because of a loophole in the CBA they only have to pay him a much lower amount in termination pay Jfc how brutal a look is that. Also that is an absolutely awful clause, loving scumbag owners.
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Wow, I don't think I've ever seen that one before. That's some real cold poo poo lol
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If Trea Turner keeps hitting like he did at the end of last season, I like him as a leadoff hitter. Move Schwarber down a few spots to use his power. Also, his OBP was also poo poo for, like, the first 8 weeks and he's notorious for slow starts. Small sample size, I know, but he's slashing .083/.185/.083 this spring.
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mdemone posted:If the bat is one meter long, it's still 1.7 km/s but Shohei is always improving This is achievable if Lance Lynn is pitching
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BiggerBoat posted:If Trea Turner keeps hitting like he did at the end of last season, I like him as a leadoff hitter. Move Schwarber down a few spots to use his power. Also, his OBP was also poo poo for, like, the first 8 weeks and he's notorious for slow starts. Small sample size, I know, but he's slashing .083/.185/.083 this spring. There is some evidence that having a speedster on 1st can help the batters behind them see more fastballs, in addition to that being intuitive https://blogs.fangraphs.com/does-ronald-acuna-jr-help-his-teammates-see-more-fastballs/
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Nodoze posted:Wow, I don't think I've ever seen that one before. That's some real cold poo poo lol I remember the Jays doing this in the Ricciardi but can't quite remember the player. Maaaaaybe Bobby Kielty?
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Assuming a person is a sphere with a radius of 26 cm (I curled up into a ball and had Poque measure me for an estimate) this player would have a mass of around 35,338,560,000,000,000 kg, which would make the player more massive than Mars's moon, Deimos. This player's schwarzchild radius is measured in picometers so I'm afraid that he would collapse into a singularity from which nothing, regardless of EV, could escape.
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Sports literally adds nothing positive to my life.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:I remember the Jays doing this in the Ricciardi but can't quite remember the player. Maaaaaybe Bobby Kielty? Doesn't look like it was him cause they traded him for Ted Lilly mcmagic posted:Sports literally adds nothing positive to my life. It's largely the Jets fault TBH
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:I remember the Jays doing this in the Ricciardi but can't quite remember the player. Maaaaaybe Bobby Kielty? Looks like they didn't go to arbitration at all in the Ricciardi era? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Toronto_Blue_Jays_season
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mcmagic posted:Sports literally adds nothing positive to my life. Uh what about the SAS posting experience?!?!
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Putting a truly unsafe amount of my eggs in the New York Rangers basket right now.
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mcmagic posted:Sports literally adds nothing positive to my life. What, you mean you don't get a rush when you see your overachieving
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It was Reed Johnson! He settled for 3 million but because he was cut in spring training the Jays only owed him 500k And it was in fact Ricciardi who did it. Not sure if the rules are still the same and settled cases can be terminated like this still but I knew that 1/6th rule existed for a while. Darude - Adam Sandstorm fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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mcmagic posted:Sports literally adds nothing positive to my life. Root for better teams or even players. Caitlin Clark is a good person to root for.
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Intruder posted:Congrats bawfuls, the Giants are villains
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:It was Reed Johnson! Reed Johnson is such a "remember some guys?" type of player
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