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Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

mdemone posted:

Under the Classified Information Protection Act, the DOJ can appeal immediately to the controlling circuit based on interests that are vital to the protection of that information.

Do they want to resort to that? No. Because it's a very high bar.

The trial being delayed doesn't affect the protection of that information

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Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy
Looks like one of the people in cannons case has come out and disclosed some info on their role, looks like he’s trying to throw everyone under the bus

The gist of it is that he was called in to move the white boxes which he thought was strange because he never handled luggage or anything for the Trumps. He was also present in some of the conversations post move and he left because he was uncomfortable.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Fart Amplifier posted:

The trial being delayed doesn't affect the protection of that information

I know. That's what I'm saying.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I'm beginning to worry that Your Favorite President™ might be suffering from mush brain. After multiple lawsuits and owing nearly a $100 million to her, dude still has no idea who Carroll is. Can't even process that saying nearly the exact same phrase of what an unknown liar she is will result in the same outcome.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Gyges posted:

I'm beginning to worry that Your Favorite President™ might be suffering from mush brain.

Teddy Roosevelt was only sixty years old when he died and this fucker has already made it to 77

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Teddy Roosevelt was only sixty years old when he died and this fucker has already made it to 77

A fast food and diet coke diet is naturally high in preservatives, which has to be good for you.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Jean-Paul Shartre posted:

It’s not a nuclear option, it’s an option that simply doesn’t exist. There’s no such thing as a motion to make the judge move faster, and any appellate court would laugh either a mandamus or a motion to reassign out of court, because they, too, are judges, and as judges don’t want piddly little people like litigants getting to control their schedule.

I mean, the defendant could do that since they have a right to a speedy trial and the judge intentionally dragging their feet would violate that. But Trump ain't gonna invoke that here lol.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

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Foxfire_ posted:

Judgement liens don't usually get special treatment like tax liens or contractor's liens do. Everything else gets paid in the order it was attached to the property.

If the property is being sold, back taxes get paid first, then unpaid contractors who did work there, then everyone else starting with the earliest. If there's leftover civil judgment damages, they'd move on to another property until there's nothing left,.

Don't forget attorney fees! Those are near the top! Only after taxes!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
So can a judge just be lazy as hell, hear bugger all cases and do gently caress all and there's nothing anyone can do? I assume as they are hired by the court (the state/justice department?) at some stage someone will just fire them.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

dr_rat posted:

So can a judge just be lazy as hell, hear bugger all cases and do gently caress all and there's nothing anyone can do? I assume as they are hired by the court (the state/justice department?) at some stage someone will just fire them.

They are generally elected, or appointed.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
Federal judges are a lifetime federal appointment

The only way out is they choose to leave or they're impeached

It's constitutional!

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

Gyges posted:

A fast food and diet coke diet is naturally high in preservatives, which has to be good for you.

Also there's all those heartbeats Teddy wasted with all that physical exertion

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Federal judges are a lifetime federal appointment

The only way out is they choose to leave or they're impeached

It's constitutional!
brb just gonna write an 80's comedy about a federal judge who moves to a tropical island to lounge about and surf all days, while every so often taking calls from the court and pretending he's still at work.

Then I don't know he wins a surfing comp while accidentally foiling a major drug smuggling ring cos they're smuggle drugs in surf boards or something. I will name it Surf Judge!!!

Anyway hopefully based on a true story.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

dr_rat posted:

brb just gonna write an 80's comedy about a federal judge who moves to a tropical island to lounge about and surf all days, while every so often taking calls from the court and pretending he's still at work.

Then I don't know he wins a surfing comp while accidentally foiling a major drug smuggling ring cos they're smuggle drugs in surf boards or something. I will name it Surf Judge!!!

Anyway hopefully based on a true story.

not "Judge Kahuna"?

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

dr_rat posted:

So can a judge just be lazy as hell, hear bugger all cases and do gently caress all and there's nothing anyone can do? I assume as they are hired by the court (the state/justice department?) at some stage someone will just fire them.

Federal judges are appointed to lifetime positions.

If they've done something that both political parties agree is particularly egregious, they can be impeached by the US Congress under pretty much the same rules as presidential impeachments. A handful of federal judges have been impeached in US history, almost all of them for getting caught taking bribes or otherwise rigging cases for their own personal profit.

Even putting aside the political nature of this case, though, nothing Cannon has done so far comes anywhere close to that point. The delay Trump's team is requesting here is a 10-day extension on a filing deadline.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Angry_Ed posted:

not "Judge Kahuna"?

Eh, it's good, but sounds a bit more early 90's to me. 80's comedies you wanted to keep the title simple and self explanatory.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

dr_rat posted:

So can a judge just be lazy as hell, hear bugger all cases and do gently caress all and there's nothing anyone can do? I assume as they are hired by the court (the state/justice department?) at some stage someone will just fire them.

Cannons doing the opposite. She’s taking every mundane item that other courts would handle in short order and turning it into a graduate thesis project and ordering briefings and then responses to the briefings and then reply’s to the responses. Every hypothetical gets all the attention she can give it.

She’s dragging it out by making everything 10x more work and then being very considerate of the defendant and pushing back due dates so everyone has time to do all the extra work.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



dr_rat posted:

brb just gonna write an 80's comedy about a federal judge who moves to a tropical island to lounge about and surf all days, while every so often taking calls from the court and pretending he's still at work.

Then I don't know he wins a surfing comp while accidentally foiling a major drug smuggling ring cos they're smuggle drugs in surf boards or something. I will name it Surf Judge!!!

Anyway hopefully based on a true story.

"THIS JUDGE IS TOTALLY RADICAL!"

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

dr_rat posted:

Eh, it's good, but sounds a bit more early 90's to me. 80's comedies you wanted to keep the title simple and self explanatory.

You know what? that's a fair point.

Mr. Grumpybones
Apr 18, 2002
"We're falling out of the sky! We're going down! We're a silver gleaming death machine!"

Angry_Ed posted:

not "Judge Kahuna"?

Why not “Certs Up”

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Tesseraction posted:

One can only assume Roberta Kaplan sighed on Saturday evening and opened "Carroll v. Trump III (prelim).docx"

Carroll defamation FINAL final 004.docx

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Fart Amplifier posted:

The trial being delayed doesn't affect the protection of that information
I don't know what criteria the law and legal precedent set in this situation, but your sentence here is certainly not accurate. If due to delays the defendent is elected president the protection of that information is absolutely affected.

Uncle Ulty
Dec 12, 2006

Represent.

dr_rat posted:

brb just gonna write an 80's comedy about a federal judge who moves to a tropical island to lounge about and surf all days, while every so often taking calls from the court and pretending he's still at work.

Then I don't know he wins a surfing comp while accidentally foiling a major drug smuggling ring cos they're smuggle drugs in surf boards or something. I will name it Surf Judge!!!

Anyway hopefully based on a true story.

Justice of the Beach
Class Action Wetsuit
Surfin' Subpoena
Guiliani Tsunami
Jurisdudence
Hang Ten (Criminals)

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Uncle Ulty posted:

Justice of the Beach
Class Action Wetsuit
Surfin' Subpoena
Guiliani Tsunami
Jurisdudence
Hang Ten (Criminals)

Aloha Honor

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Uncle Ulty posted:

Jurisdudence
:hmmyes:

(although yeah still a bit more early 90's. Still great)

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

azflyboy posted:

I think if you look at everything Trump owns globally, you can probably get to the amount Chubb paid for the bond, but I'd be surprised if he has anywhere near enough assets to cover the $450 million needed for the NY fraud bond.

I think Trump tower alone is worth over $300 million.

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016


I had some ideas but I don’t think anything can top Jurisdudence. Well done.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Charliegrs posted:

I think Trump tower alone is worth over $300 million.

He apparently only owns 30% and could have issues selling due to rules involving the other owners, also if theirs a lien on it or what not. End of the day I'm not really sure anyone knows what proprieties he even has available to sell and what he could get for them.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.


Honorlulu

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


dr_rat posted:

So can a judge just be lazy as hell, hear bugger all cases and do gently caress all and there's nothing anyone can do? I assume as they are hired by the court (the state/justice department?) at some stage someone will just fire them.

This actually happened at a court I used to practice before semi-regularly. Judge who the rumour mill said had decision paralysis. Basic motion decisions would take months, come out with multi-page footnotes and strange digressions, cases would take years longer than before other judges of the same court.

As it turns out, the solution is this judge retires on day one of full pension vesting and the cases get reassigned to still-active judges to sort the messes out.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

azflyboy posted:

I think if you look at everything Trump owns globally, you can probably get to the amount Chubb paid for the bond, but I'd be surprised if he has anywhere near enough assets to cover the $450 million needed for the NY fraud bond.

There was a thing back in 2016 where Trump boasted that he owned a Gucci store that was worth more than Romney and as far as anybody could tell he was right.

Ulta
Oct 3, 2006

Snail on my head ready to go.
Permission to Approach the Beach

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Uncle Ulty posted:

Justice of the Beach
Class Action Wetsuit
Surfin' Subpoena
Guiliani Tsunami
Jurisdudence
Hang Ten (Criminals)

OP is going for 80s sitcom not 80s porn.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Undertow. (Is also the nickname of the judge)

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



dr_rat posted:

He apparently only owns 30% and could have issues selling due to rules involving the other owners, also if theirs a lien on it or what not. End of the day I'm not really sure anyone knows what proprieties he even has available to sell and what he could get for them.

What's the land Mar-A-Lago sits on worth? It's a good amount of real estate, it may be worth a pretty penny once you get the festering shithole of a building off of it.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Randalor posted:

What's the land Mar-A-Lago sits on worth? It's a good amount of real estate, it may be worth a pretty penny once you get the festering shithole of a building off of it.

Deed requires that the land remains a club apparently so there's only so much development that can be done on it, so it's always going to be worth less than land price.

So that's nice.

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

The Pelican Brief

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jumping the Clerk

Meatball
Mar 2, 2003

That's a Spicy Meatball

Pillbug

dr_rat posted:

brb just gonna write an 80's comedy about a federal judge who moves to a tropical island to lounge about and surf all days, while every so often taking calls from the court and pretending he's still at work.

Then I don't know he wins a surfing comp while accidentally foiling a major drug smuggling ring cos they're smuggle drugs in surf boards or something. I will name it Surf Judge!!!

Anyway hopefully based on a true story.

No, he gets caught slacking off by some senator, and he starts the process of getting rid of the judge, THEN he foils the drug smuggling ring, and the senator rips up the impeachment, everyone cheers, he hangs ten, credits roll. Post credits is the judge going, "I think I'm gonna go back to go to judging."

Set up for the sequel where he starts as a judge then a federal plaintiff challenges him to a surfing competition (think "trial by combat", but with surfboards) and under the legal precedent "the rules don't say a judge can't be challenged to a surf competition", he has to win a surf competition to secure the prosecution of the suspect.

Title is "Surfin' Justice" and "Surfin' justice 2: back in the surf".

Meatball fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Mar 12, 2024

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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

dr_rat posted:

He apparently only owns 30% and could have issues selling due to rules involving the other owners, also if theirs a lien on it or what not. End of the day I'm not really sure anyone knows what proprieties he even has available to sell and what he could get for them.

Also a lot of “his” buildings are condo buildings which are fundamentally not going to have much ownership left after you sell the condos.

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