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Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Some Guy TT posted:

s07 e05 of voyager is about a planet where a robot decides how to allocate medical resources and the robot decides that cosmetic treatments for senior engineers are more important than life saving drugs for poor people when both require the exact same dtug

so im curious has anyone talked about using artificial intelligence to do this in the present day the main reason im not sure is because it doesnt really sound stupid enough to be a realistic contemporary application of the technology

AI for triage and resource allocation is absolutely something people have thought of and I am certain has been implemented in certain places. But you don't even need to use AI to make these exact decisions.

The Voyager thought experiment is necessarily silly because it's obvious that life saving is more important than cosmetic surgery, but it's been possible for years before AI to game the system for transplants or other major procedures.

I don't think the allocation questions are that complex, though, so using AI instead of just looking at patient insurance, ethnicity, class, etc. would just be a means to insulate the decision makers with "my hands are tied, the system made this choice" rather than explaining why the black patient died while Tommy Vandersloot IV had 3 ER docs attending to his cut chin.

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Nichael posted:

I don't like this bird.

That was the funniest delivery by G Amato I've seen. Hell he had a couple all timers this special, with the speech + song and when he tried to cut the check and when he no sold the Joey P mexico pictures.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


In Training posted:

That was the funniest delivery by G Amato I've seen. Hell he had a couple all timers this special, with the speech + song and when he tried to cut the check and when he no sold the Joey P mexico pictures.

The casting for the show is on point. They get great performances out of people.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Nichael posted:

I don't like this bird.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

maybe next year lily!!

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
that guy looka like Tim Burton character design

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Whirling posted:

just remembered the bizarre "elf slavery is actually good" side plot in Harry Potter and I really wanna know how people reacted to that online back in the day because I remember putting down the series after that when I was a kid because it was so off-putting

My thoughts were, "huh, this is a really weird position to have your characters take on this issue. I guess eventually there will be some resolution and Hermoine will be shown to have the correct viewpoint" and then it's just never touched on again. All that we get is Dobby accidentally getting freed and then murdered like 5 minutes later, and it's a big emotional moment for the cast. But only because he dies helping them

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Kit Walker posted:

My thoughts were, "huh, this is a really weird position to have your characters take on this issue. I guess eventually there will be some resolution and Hermoine will be shown to have the correct viewpoint" and then it's just never touched on again. All that we get is Dobby accidentally getting freed and then murdered like 5 minutes later, and it's a big emotional moment for the cast. But only because he dies helping them

I swear it's closer to five books.

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Whirling posted:

just remembered the bizarre "elf slavery is actually good" side plot in Harry Potter and I really wanna know how people reacted to that online back in the day because I remember putting down the series after that when I was a kid because it was so off-putting

Online Harry Potter discourse was a poisoned well since "Snape kills Dumbledore"

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Is there a precedent for a complete remake, in the same medium, of a major film franchise like HBO's Harry Potter show? For all the remakes that Hollywood pumps out, a lot of them aren't complete remakes of existing franchises. Even the X-Men poo poo feigns some sort of continuity, and Star Trek 2009 explicitly shows the alternate universe being created in the prime universe.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ghoulcowboyy/status/1766506892098965630?t=F4zDg7YAOd-kwCdx2NAPGA&s=19

The book is about a Chinese woman who falls in love with a member of Unit 731

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Open Source Idiom posted:

I swear it's closer to five books.

Oh my god you're right. For some reason my brain put his liberation as something that happened in Deathly Hallows. Says enough that my brain didn't bother remembering Dobby as having any real relevance to the plot

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Nichael posted:

Is there a precedent for a complete remake, in the same medium, of a major film franchise like HBO's Harry Potter show?

It really depends on how you define "same medium", since there's an argument to be made that television and film are different in terms of length, budget, how they approach serialisation etc. but you could squint and say Avatar The Last Airbender*, the Percy Jackson film/show, and there are probably a bunch of anime that fit too.

It's trifling and redundant though. The HP films are so iconic that there's absolutely no point remaking them in recent memory, and like this thread has discussed there's no real confidence that Hollywood -- or, particularly, Warner Brothers Discovery -- would be capable of generating the kind of regular release schedule that would adapt the seven books in an eight year period. (Even accounting for some cleverness in how they approach the material, e.g. adapting two books a season, and releasing a season every two years.)

* Man, say what you will about Shylaman's film (it's poo poo) but he's got a far better eye for using visuals to tell a story than the recent Netflix series. That the practical sets really kind of just make it a better experience IMO.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


I kind of think the HP series will just languish in development hell and never premiere. It seems too desperate even by Hollywood standards.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Nichael posted:

I kind of think the HP series will just languish in development hell and never premiere. It seems too desperate even by Hollywood standards.

This feels really weird because Harry Potter seems like it'd lend itself to a series way better than it did to the movies, especially when the books get too bloated to really adapt coherently. And it's never been a better time for serialised television. But the only practical way to do it would be animated and Hollywood hates that now, let alone boomer-rear end Rowling.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Ghost Leviathan posted:

This feels really weird because Harry Potter seems like it'd lend itself to a series way better than it did to the movies, especially when the books get too bloated to really adapt coherently. And it's never been a better time for serialised television. But the only practical way to do it would be animated and Hollywood hates that now, let alone boomer-rear end Rowling.

Sure, but I think it's still odd for the same reason Airbender's remake is odd. Or that live action Moana with some of the same cast.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
wait, they're doing a harry potter reboot?? after how badly the magical beasts or w/e went?? lmfao i somehow didnt hear about this

zaslav ftw

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Nichael posted:

Sure, but I think it's still odd for the same reason Airbender's remake is odd. Or that live action Moana with some of the same cast.

not odd at all. very ez, name brand + no need to write a new script or songs. just re-use it all and have them act for a few peanuts instead of animate

what we need is moana: the musical: the movie: the animated live action

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Ghost Leviathan posted:

And it's never been a better time for serialised television.

Hard disagree. Ten years ago this was probably true, but that was then.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Xaris posted:

what we need is moana: the musical: the movie: the animated live action

can't wait

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/ghoulcowboyy/status/1766506892098965630?t=F4zDg7YAOd-kwCdx2NAPGA&s=19

The book is about a Chinese woman who falls in love with a member of Unit 731
women love bad boys

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/ghoulcowboyy/status/1766506892098965630?t=F4zDg7YAOd-kwCdx2NAPGA&s=19

The book is about a Chinese woman who falls in love with a member of Unit 731

Omg it's Asian "Where Hands Touch"

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Open Source Idiom posted:

Hard disagree. Ten years ago this was probably true, but that was then.

Well, it should be if all the big studios weren't absolutely hell-bent on getting in their own way at every step.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
I am ready to absorb ALL this lore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzTzwyerJww

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

just read the books

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/ghoulcowboyy/status/1766506892098965630?t=F4zDg7YAOd-kwCdx2NAPGA&s=19

The book is about a Chinese woman who falls in love with a member of Unit 731

after the recent Contrapoints video (shut up) I want to be forgiving about people writing romance novels about hosed up fantasies but uh, this is a bit much, even if it's filtered through the lens of sci fi/fantasy.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


BONGHITZ posted:

just read the books

also prevents you from knowing too much about the god awful prequels

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Mantis42 posted:

after the recent Contrapoints video (shut up) I want to be forgiving about people writing romance novels about hosed up fantasies but uh, this is a bit much, even if it's filtered through the lens of sci fi/fantasy.

I immediately thought of Contrapoints as well. And yes, a romance with a "bad boy" is one thing, but a war criminal? Entirely different.

Edit: because autocorrect changed Contrapoints to Contraptions

nonathlon has issued a correction as of 15:44 on Mar 12, 2024

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
https://twitter.com/muoi_art/status/1767249575650222447?t=SizeOqQE39arLTcwgZ3phA&s=19

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


jeff_goldblum_well_there_it_is.gif

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

nonathlon posted:

I immediately thought of Contraptions as well. And yes, a romance with a "bad boy" is one thing, but a war criminal? Entirely different.

Being from real history makes a difference too. This kind of poo poo happens in fantastical settings all the time and nobody really notices

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/ghoulcowboyy/status/1766506892098965630?t=F4zDg7YAOd-kwCdx2NAPGA&s=19

The book is about a Chinese woman who falls in love with a member of Unit 731

why not just... not read the book? once a story is told it's retarded to try to kill the author

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
review bombing is fine I think but don't harass the poor weirdo

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
on the one hand, it is probably better for weird thoughts like this to be expressed in fiction rather than being repressed until it comes out in some more harmful way.
On the other hand, I think it is okay for people to see a novel about falling in love with a war criminal and go "drat you wrote this? Lol"

In conclusion, the human mind and art are complex

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Yeah people are a little in denial about it but romance novels are basically just longform porn with a literary figleaf on it. As we're all aware, porn without the figleaf features fetishes way weirder than this. The fact that it's being sold as a physical published book on Barnes and Noble dot com and about a real historical war crime team are what's attracting attention here; if it were just a fanfic about the Avatar Fire Nation or whatever nobody would bat an eye.

In conclusion I think gawking is fine but leave the fetish lady alone

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

The Night Porter is a movie about a concentration camp inmate falling in love with one of her nazi guards and it's honestly pretty good, classic depraved euro art cinema, Criterion Collection approved baby

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Nichael posted:

The casting for the show is on point. They get great performances out of people.

On Cinema seems like an intimidatingly hard show to get into. Are all the eps on YouTube? Are there alot of them? So I need to watch anything else to understand what's going on?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Bro Dad posted:

also prevents you from knowing too much about the god awful prequels

If this video includes Brian Herbert's Lord Cybertron 3000 poo poo lmao

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docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Nichael posted:

Is there a precedent for a complete remake, in the same medium, of a major film franchise like HBO's Harry Potter show? For all the remakes that Hollywood pumps out, a lot of them aren't complete remakes of existing franchises. Even the X-Men poo poo feigns some sort of continuity, and Star Trek 2009 explicitly shows the alternate universe being created in the prime universe.

Not quite the same I guess but we're up to the third major adaptation of Dune? the fourth?

Battlestar Galactica also springs to mind. There's also the shot-for-shot remake of Psycho.

Spider-Man's been adapted/remade so often that there've been two major movies/series (No Way Home and the Spider-Verse movies) that are explicitly rooted in how many different versions of Spider-Man there are.

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