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Hollismason posted:The signs are clearly there though that other Klingons think Worf is a loving weirdo. From the two eating dinner with him that are kind of poking fun at him to the guy at the end thats like "Yeah you could learn some poo poo from us". Klingons think Worf is a doofus. Those guys were like Klingon MAGAs though, they were complaining about how things were so much better back in the day and wanted to steal the Enterprise's battle section and go blow up some CainFortea posted:Also I think Bones is technically a worse doctor. He kept injecting himself with poo poo by accident. You shoot yourself up with a psychosis-inducing overdose ONE TIME
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:I like that Season 3 of Enterprise does Voyager's entire premise a million times better in just a single season lol. Especially since the Delta quadrant lacks the Andorian Mining Consortium.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I would love Hertzler to do an Alexa or Siri voice lol Alexa what are today's news headlines? WAR IS MORE FUN WHEN YOU'RE WINNING! DEFEAT MAKES MY WOUNDS ACHE!
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Big rear end On Fire posted:I thought so. Overall Enterprise looks worse basically all the time, effects too. That's my thinking. Some Enterprise sets and lighting look like something from the 60s. They really should have just left Star Trek alone at that point, they really were burnt out. And that guy Mayweather, what a poor dude, I think he appeared in some episodes and literally didn't say anything, just looked intense while piloting the ship.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:And that guy Mayweather, what a poor dude, I think he appeared in some episodes and literally didn't say anything, just looked intense while piloting the ship. I'll still take this over Tom Paris turning around and making a snarky comment to Janeway literally every time the view screen turned off.
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they got a pretty dude who can't act to save his life and then hardly ever had him take his shirt off. it was insane.
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Mirror Travis seemed like a better use of his talents.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Mirror Travis seemed like a better use of his talents. Mirror Travis was rad.
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Star Trek's greatest murderer not named Janeway getting an official toy: https://www.masterreplicas.com/en-ca/products/star-trek-lower-desks-moopsy-plush-10inch 
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The Last Call posted:Star Trek's greatest murderer not named Janeway getting an official toy: I'll take 3.
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Never watched Lower Desks but if it’s as good as Lower Decks I’ll give it a shot.
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Lower Desks would be a great name for that Starfleet Academy show they've been wanting to do for 30 years.
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I really wish we'd have gotten a mirror universe Data because I'm watching the episode where he decides to have a beard.
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Wow, an evil version of Data.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Wow, an evil version of Data. Lore wasn't made to be evil. He just was. I mean like a Data that was purposefully built for evil.
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Data received all of his father's weakest genes while Lore received all of his father's strongest genes. A secret, third robot was made that had all of their father's genes. A perfect copy. This robot is the president of Earth.
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It's never brought up again but Troi specifically points out that she feels emotions from Data during this episode. It doesn't make sense because he doesn't have an emotion chip but it does demonstrate that Data is possibly capable of evolving into having emotions. This is all thrown away in later seasons.
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There are 12 soong type androids. There are many copies. And they have a plan
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Lore as a compassionate and emotional freedom fighter vs data as a cold-blooded ends justify the means enforcer would have been a great mirror universe pairing.
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Data is fully capable of emotions, but Lore still uses nickel-metal hydride batteries and Data's are Lithium  E: also this, now I get it and want to see Mirror Data Eeyo posted:Lore as a compassionate and emotional freedom fighter vs data as a cold-blooded ends justify the means enforcer would have been a great mirror universe pairing. Jimbone Tallshanks fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mirror Data should be like, the clankiest C-3PO meets Robbie the Robot pile of rusty wires and gears imaginable. And he already has emotions, but instead of being evil like Lore he’s just become the most degenerate hedonist possible. Just constant amounts of sex and creating avant-garde art.
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galagazombie posted:Mirror Data should be like, the clankiest C-3PO meets Robbie the Robot pile of rusty wires and gears imaginable. And he already has emotions, but instead of being evil like Lore he’s just become the most degenerate hedonist possible. Just constant amounts of sex and creating avant-garde art. Brent Spiner as a live action Hedonismbot
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The emotion chip was such a terrible narrative device. Like the core of Data's perceived lack of humanity is his perceived lack of emotions and instead of like being an emergent property of intelligence or anything like that it's just his dad just hadn't installed any because his brother was such an rear end in a top hat. Like Data's entire narrative of wanting to be human was just because he didn't have a specific computer chip attached to his brain. Don't worry Data, being human isn't a state of mind or consciousness or demonstrated sapience, you just gotta glue this silicon to your brain and now you have emotional reactions, but also you can turn it on and off at any time because the writers are bored with it now.
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Eeyo posted:Lore as a compassionate and emotional freedom fighter vs data as a cold-blooded ends justify the means enforcer would have been a great mirror universe pairing. Yeah, Data would still be a dispassionate android on the journey to understanding humanity, but because it's mirror humanity he would be cultivating qualities like ruthlessness, duplicity and supremacism.
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Outpost22 posted:Mirror Worf is father of the year. They dedicated an entire episode to infinite Worfs in infinite realities. Yet he wasn't a father in even a single one of them.
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counterfeitsaint posted:They dedicated an entire episode to infinite Worfs in infinite realities. Yet he wasn't a father in even a single one of them. He was in the one where he was married to Troi, but he had kids with her and Alexander didn't exist. 
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In the event of resistance they probably load Mirror Data into a torpedo tube and launch him at the enemy ship. He then years through the hull, yanks the head off everyone between him and the warp core, overloads it, and beams out.
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Mirror Data is probably a psycho because evil Soong didn't program him to get freaky like regular Data. He's trying to find the horny chip.
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Ghostlight posted:The emotion chip was such a terrible narrative device. Like the core of Data's perceived lack of humanity is his perceived lack of emotions and instead of like being an emergent property of intelligence or anything like that it's just his dad just hadn't installed any because his brother was such an rear end in a top hat. Like Data's entire narrative of wanting to be human was just because he didn't have a specific computer chip attached to his brain. Don't worry Data, being human isn't a state of mind or consciousness or demonstrated sapience, you just gotta glue this silicon to your brain and now you have emotional reactions, but also you can turn it on and off at any time because the writers are bored with it now. There's even that late season episode where he starts dreaming and while it's a little goofy it works well enough on its own to show his brain is still developing and unlocking new avenues to become more human. 
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:they got a pretty dude who can't act to save his life and then hardly ever had him take his shirt off. it was insane. They give Travis center-stage for an episode in season 2, and it's just a 45-minute-long answer to why he got so little to do on the show. Especially with a whole cast of legitimately-good guest stars doing their damndest to play off him and getting nothing back.
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Hollismason posted:Lore wasn't made to be evil. He just was. MIrror Data was never built. There was a TNG mirror universe novel, Dark Mirror and Soong was killed in political purges before he created Data.
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CainFortea posted:MIrror Data was never built. There was a TNG mirror universe novel, Dark Mirror and Soong was killed in political purges before he created Data. There's always more Soongs. They're like roaches, for every one you know about, there's another 25 hiding out on deserted planets and what not.
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counterfeitsaint posted:There's always more Soongs. They're like roaches, for every one you know about, there's another 25 hiding out on deserted planets and what not. It was explicitly called out in the novel. No Soong type androids at all.
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CainFortea posted:It was explicitly called out in the novel. No Soong type androids at all. If we're including novels in canon now, then hoo boy, there are some giant screaming oddities and contradictions to account for.
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counterfeitsaint posted:There's always more Soongs. They're like roaches, for every one you know about, there's another 25 hiding out on deserted planets and what not. We should really be celebrating the Soongs' multigenerational health journey from a family of puffy old FORTRAN -programmer-looking dorks to svelte young blacksmiths
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