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Nuebot posted:Yeah, and you need to kill two rune bearers to unlock the golden city so in theory if you just sprint to altus, that'll unlock the radahn festival and along the way I think varre should move to his church where you can do his quest to go join the mogwyn dynasty. Varre wants a great rune to prove Ive got the stuff, so no way to get to my blood soaked buddy
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i believe youll have to kill mohg and radahn to enter the dlc anyway so the minimum path is probably sprint around stormveil, through liurnia and up to altus, activating radahn festival -> kill radahn, opening two finger room and triggering varre’s move to liurnia -> complete varre quest and warp to mohg this path has only three mandatory bosses and two of them are required to enter the dlc anyway, the third being magma wyrm makar who i doubt will have new dialogue after the dlc.
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scary ghost dog posted:i believe youll have to kill mohg and radahn to enter the dlc anyway so the minimum path is probably sprint around stormveil, through liurnia and up to altus, activating radahn festival -> kill radahn, opening two finger room and triggering varre’s move to liurnia -> complete varre quest and warp to mohg You can grab the medallion halves and use the grand lift to get to Altus. It's how I usually do it. That makes it two bosses, the shardbearers.
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Why would you need to kill Makar? Just take the lift.
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I thought you someone had said that the DLC basically wasn't going to touch the base game. I really doubt any of the bosses will have any changed dialog with the possible exception of Mohg. The only other boss with any connection to Miquella is Malenia, and she's unconscious until you arrive. I guess maybe you can show up with some "Miquella's Unalloyed Gold Star" form shaving them Shadowlands or whatever.
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Mar 12, 2024 16:09
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Yeah the two halves of the lift token are an absolute cinch to get and dont have bosses guarding them. But yeah, you eventually get blocked by needing great runes to get to the later areas since theres no way to get to consecrated snowfield without sending Morgott to the dumpster one final time.
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What quests advance/what can be missed by activating the lift? Never really got my head around so I always just advance everything as far as I can before activating it, which takes quite a bit of time even knowing all the steps
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Annath posted:I thought you someone had said that the DLC basically wasn't going to touch the base game. If there's not, then oh well. The first game had that one slightly different sif scene. I don't think they've done anything similar since, but you never know.
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Ben Nerevarine posted:What quests advance/what can be missed by activating the lift? Never really got my head around so I always just advance everything as far as I can before activating it, which takes quite a bit of time even knowing all the steps Nothing changes just from taking the lift in particular, but reaching Altus Plateau by any means will cause the Radahn festival to start regardless of your progress on Ranni's quest.
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Nuebot posted:If there's not, then oh well. The first game had that one slightly different sif scene. I don't think they've done anything similar since, but you never know. there hasnt been anything like the sif sequence since ds1, dlc-related or otherwise
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Annath posted:I thought you someone had said that the DLC basically wasn't going to touch the base game. Maybe Gideon will give you another cookie from the jar for new info
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OwlFancier posted:You are already a skeleton just heavily clothed. People are prudish about skeleton nudity. Villain in disguise...
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Fister Roboto posted:Why would you need to kill Makar? Just take the lift. You have to kill Makar to complete the volcano manor questline and/or get the bull goat armor.
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Barudak posted:Im doing as much as possible without killing any rune bearing bosses. Radahan is tragically a bit load bearing. the outer gods are still laughing at the greater will for using "load-bearing empyrean"
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Barudak posted:Yeah the two halves of the lift token are an absolute cinch to get and dont have bosses guarding them.
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What happens if you run directly to morgott without encountering him before? Cos you don't have to fight him at stormveil. I assume he just fucks off and that boss doesn't spawn but does he have anything to say about you not doing the whole nemesis thing with him?
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OwlFancier posted:What happens if you run directly to morgott without encountering him before? Cos you don't have to fight him at stormveil. I did that in NG+ - you fight him as normal, I don't think there's any different dialogue. After you kill him in Leyndell he's gone from Stormveil and you skip that fight if you go back.
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Yeah, and if you do it on NG, Morgott will drop the talisman pouch. I wonder if there's anyone who managed to do this completely on accident, and then was confused to go back to Stormveil and find three sites of grace in a row with no enemies between them.
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If you skip him in stormveil, but fight him in the field outside leyndell does he drop the pouch there?
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Astrochicken posted:the outer gods are still laughing at the greater will for using "load-bearing empyrean" be wary of grover, house!
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tiny brain: margit and morgott are different people normal size brain: margit and morgott are the same person huge brain: margit is morgott’s long-range astral projection galaxy brain: margit and morgott are different people
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did they ever remove that weird loving encounter where gostoc shapeshifts into margit outside of leyndell randomly, i don't think i ran into it this time around
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Vermain posted:did they ever remove that weird loving encounter where gostoc shapeshifts into margit outside of leyndell randomly, i don't think i ran into it this time around this isnt gostoc and you can query my previous post to determine if its margit
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Nuebot posted:Yeah, and you need to kill two rune bearers to unlock the golden city so in theory if you just sprint to altus, that'll unlock the radahn festival and along the way I think varre should move to his church where you can do his quest to go join the mogwyn dynasty. You gotta talk to the Fingers in the round table to move Varre, because he only gives you the invasion keys if you agree they're hosed up.
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Vermain posted:did they ever remove that weird loving encounter where gostoc shapeshifts into margit outside of leyndell randomly, i don't think i ran into it this time around you probably just walked past it.
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Vermain posted:did they ever remove that weird loving encounter where gostoc shapeshifts into margit outside of leyndell randomly, i don't think i ran into it this time around Wait I thought he just like, dropped out of the sky or something, presumably that's what the craters are from. Lots of margits falling on people.
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scary ghost dog posted:galaxy brain: your call is very important to us. please hold while one of our blobs awaits your call
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When you fight him the first time he's Margit Gud. When you fight him the second time and kill him he's Morgot Gud.
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OwlFancier posted:Wait I thought he just like, dropped out of the sky or something, presumably that's what the craters are from. Lots of margits falling on people. How about perfumer cruise missiles? https://youtu.be/K_03kFqWfqs?si=7C81pYwA_Gfq2wcJ (~1:45)
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Its an incredible The Matrix reference.
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Juche Couture posted:(New player) Are the grafted scions really hard or do I just suck? Decided to clear out Limgrave before I fight Godrick and holy hell the 2 on a bridge in Fringefolk Hero’s Grave. I beat the ulcerated tree spirit okay after many attempts with some patience/luck (was really close which was fun). But these I suck too much to parry, a single combo breaks my shield poise, and I only manage to roll out of one attack directly into another. catching up on the thread, but you can solve this encounter by first hitting the far scion with a ranged attack and luring it back. for example, back to the flamethrower, and blocking at the edge of its range, or in the little nook.
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Thinking of a build for the endgame and newgame plus now that I am getting there and the 2h Arsenal playstyle is getting a little old (I also find myself just using the Claymore over my other weapons more and more) I am looking at switching things up. (I want to get the Goldmask ending as it is the only one I haven't seen then get setup for the DLC and have a save outside Mohg's fight so I can do it to start the DLC). I like the look of the Blood incantations, is there a possibility of building out a curved swords powerstance build that makes use of Bloodflame blade (for style points, this is pve) and things like Bloodboon for just looking as cool as heck. How do buffs like Bloodflame interact with ashes of war? Is there a way to enchant an offhand weapon with a buff like bloodflame or is it just the main hand? If I am using 2x Bandit's Curved Sword, do I want to set my Ash to Arcane or Dex scaling? I know Arcane helps with bleed scaling so if I want to go all in on the bleed that should be the way to go? Thanks!
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Phrosphor posted:Thinking of a build for the endgame and newgame plus now that I am getting there and the 2h Arsenal playstyle is getting a little old (I also find myself just using the Claymore over my other weapons more and more) I am looking at switching things up. (I want to get the Goldmask ending as it is the only one I haven't seen then get setup for the DLC and have a save outside Mohg's fight so I can do it to start the DLC). You can only buff weapons that have standard, heavy, keen, or quality infusion, as well as a small number of unique weapons like Bloodhound Fang. Bloodflame Blade is great, just keep in mind that the bleed buildup does NOT scale with arcane and the fire damage only scales with faith, regardless of what seal you're using.
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Fister Roboto posted:You can only buff weapons that have standard, heavy, keen, or quality infusion, as well as a small number of unique weapons like Bloodhound Fang. Bloodflame Blade is great, just keep in mind that the bleed buildup does NOT scale with arcane and the fire damage only scales with faith, regardless of what seal you're using. Oh drat that puts a lot of that idea to bed. I could just run the Boon and not bloodflame blade I guess. That means I don't need to worry about the ash infusion and go for arcane.
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You can definitely still make it work with a dex/faith build. The lack of arcane scaling isn't a huge deal.
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Also the Fringefolk grave (and those scions in particular) are a pretty tough fight for early on. Having enough HP to at least take a hit from the stupid chariot is pretty useful.
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Meh. If you know how to navigate the dungeon you really only have to dodge it once or twice.
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Phrosphor posted:Thinking of a build for the endgame and newgame plus now that I am getting there and the 2h Arsenal playstyle is getting a little old (I also find myself just using the Claymore over my other weapons more and more) I am looking at switching things up. (I want to get the Goldmask ending as it is the only one I haven't seen then get setup for the DLC and have a save outside Mohg's fight so I can do it to start the DLC). Making them Blood will give them bleed, which will be more effective than bloodflame blade but is lamer. It won't be that much worse in practice, just far more tedious to set up all the time. Grab the Scavenger's curved sword from Gelmir when you can, it's basically a Bandit's curved sword but with bleed. Make that bleed and your bandit's keen and you can still buff it and get crazy amounts of blood loss buildup while still looking cool at hell. Another fun choice - powerstanced Great Stars. Both already have bleed and they look cool as hell buffed with bloodflame because they're pretty gnarly to begin with. Then of course you have the standard stuff like greathammers being the best class of weapons in the game and them healing on hit...yadda yadda. The blood incants are far from bad but aren't really ideal. They're very cool, and very fun, but Mohg's seems like its more for PvP and the blood claws you get from mini Mohg is actually not bad. I enjoyed comboing it after a crucible horns, which would knock the enemy on its rear end and let me take advantage of how quick you can chain together blood claws. It's never going to be top tier but you could do a whole lot worse against anything that can bleed. Swarm of Flies has been knocked down a bunch of pegs since launch but it's literally a fire and forget you can spam whenever you would otherwise just be standing like an rear end in a top hat. Basically low cost but random staggers and blood procs.
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Ariong posted:Meh. If you know how to navigate the dungeon you really only have to dodge it once or twice. or you can just rush yura's quest for raptor of the mists, which makes dealing with chariots significantly easier
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