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Mustached Demon posted:Root for better teams or even players. Caitlin Clark is a good person to root for. See but every time I think about Caitlin Clark I think about how James Wade spent several years building a team in chicago only to spend the last year of his tenure dumping gasoline on it and then throwing a match as he ran away, and we're still only getting the third pick
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Mustached Demon posted:Root for better teams or even players. Caitlin Clark is a good person to root for. It's basically Jalen Brunson or bust now.
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more falafel please posted:See but every time I think about Caitlin Clark I think about how James Wade spent several years building a team in chicago only to spend the last year of his tenure dumping gasoline on it and then throwing a match as he ran away, and we're still only getting the third pick Yeah but banners hang forever.
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Nodoze posted:Wow, I don't think I've ever seen that one before. That's some real cold poo poo lol The Padres did it a hundred years ago to Todd Walker.
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wow, incredible move by the Giants FO. every dollar they save is another dollar their owner can donate to a Trump PAC, really doing what they have to here
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Bregor posted:Reed Johnson is such a "remember some guys?" type of player I hated his stupid beard because he would absolutely mash against the Mets when he was a Brave e: looked it up and he OPSed 860, which is good but not really mashing 
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live with fruit posted:The Padres did it a hundred years ago to Todd Walker. Teams do it every year.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Teams do it every year. Lose to a player in arbitration and then cut them so that they don't have to pay? I don't think that's true.
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I'm sure the PA never expected the situation to come up where it would matter that player salaries after an arb hearing aren't guaranteed After a hearing specifically, if it never goes to hearing then whatever number they agree on is guaranteed
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Bregor posted:Reed Johnson is such a "remember some guys?" type of player Goddamn I get such a rush of nostalgia remembering Jays from the 2000s.
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live with fruit posted:Lose to a player in arbitration and then cut them so that they don't have to pay? I don't think that's true. I think it happens once or twice a year, yeah. First couple examples I found were Justin Grimm and Hunter Strickland
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Bregor posted:Reed Johnson is such a "remember some guys?" type of player The solo dim spot in the darkness on some very forgettable early 2010s Cubs teams.
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Tired: Spend money for Snell or Montgomery to replace your ace. Wired: Spend prospect capital to trade for one year of Cease to replace your ace. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1767575902769279128
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Cease isn't even that good. They can't replace Cole with him. Or anyone else. If he's out for the year they are dead.
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Sydin posted:Tired: Spend money for Snell or Montgomery to replace your ace. It's even better, Cease has two years left so the White Sox are asking for a king's ransom in prospects. I cannot stress enough how much New York should definitely do this.
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Goddamn Cease has two years left still? How? loving hell service time is bullshit.
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I was looking up Cease's 2025 status (arb 3) and saw that the White Sox are paying Moncada $24.8 million this year? lololololol that's Tony Rendon thievery right there! gently caress Jerry get paid Yoan.
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Cease kinda sucks just pay Monty
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How many more pitchers must be cut down in their prime before Snell and Montgomery sign
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He's dead Jim https://twitter.com/ChrisKirschner/status/1767642357845958789?s=20
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We won't know until he shows up in the clubhouse wearing a Keith Meister ballcap.
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Bregor posted:I was looking up Cease's 2025 status (arb 3) and saw that the White Sox are paying Moncada $24.8 million this year? lololololol that's Tony Rendon thievery right there! gently caress Jerry get paid Yoan. That's nowhere near Rendon thievery
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FlamingLiberal posted:He's dead Jim The Yankees love lying about injuries more than I've ever loved anything in my life.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:How many more pitchers must be cut down in their prime before Snell and Montgomery sign My theory is that, even with the pitch clock, no one actually wants to watch Blake Snell pitch Not sure about Monty
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:My theory is that, even with the pitch clock, no one actually wants to watch Blake Snell pitch they just talked about this on effectively wild, based on a question that was basically "what if teams just really don't like watching him" but they made a great point that the reasons you don't like him (tons of walks, all over the zone, never seems like he's "got it" today) are also statistical problems. like he doesn't get hit that hard, but stuff like having a FIP a whole run higher than your ERA is gonna make teams wonder if that's sustainable at all, especially assuming he wants a long term deal. that stuff isn't gonna play the same when he's 35, 36, 37
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Cease is younger and I don't think it's hard to argue has a higher ceiling than Montgomery and probably Snell, I don't think it's surprising the Yankees would rather trade for him than sign one of those guys, especially given their tax hit.
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Inspector_666 posted:Cease is younger and I don't think it's hard to argue has a higher ceiling than Montgomery and probably Snell, I don't think it's surprising the Yankees would rather trade for him than sign one of those guys, especially given their tax hit. I agree that’s a reasonable plan, but the pessimistic view is Cease is who he was last season, and dealing top tier prospects for him and hoping for his 2022 production is an even worse outcome than just signing someone as a stopgap. Montgomery has the highest floor of any of them, still surprised he isn’t signed yet. I guess it’s no coincidence that Belli and Chapman signed option-laden deals but the SPs just want to get paid now before their ligaments and tendons explode.
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Inspector_666 posted:Cease is younger and I don't think it's hard to argue has a higher ceiling than Montgomery and probably Snell, I don't think it's surprising the Yankees would rather trade for him than sign one of those guys, especially given their tax hit. Yeah idk if Cease has a higher ceiling than Snell. Monty sure, although he's probably also got a lower floor than Monty. He's got one really loving good season and then a bunch of >= 4 ERA ones. He also took a step back on a ton of peripherals last year so like, there's not some outlier thing to point to as confidence he's gonna bounce back to his 2022 self. His FB velo has been trending down as well which is odd for a guy in his prime. idk I don't get why the Yankees don't just pay Snell. They're over the tax this year anyway and have $90M coming off the books next year per sportrac (granted like a third of that is Soto who they presumably want to try and re-up, but still).
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Bregor posted:I agree that’s a reasonable plan, but the pessimistic view is Cease is who he was last season, and dealing top tier prospects for him and hoping for his 2022 production is an even worse outcome than just signing someone as a stopgap. I can't think of a single WSox player who is the floor of the poo poo show organization Jerry and Co. put together the last 2 years. Giolito might be close but he is the victim of some bad injuries. Also gently caress Jerry Reinsdorf.
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Inspector_666 posted:Cease is younger and I don't think it's hard to argue has a higher ceiling than Montgomery and probably Snell, I don't think it's surprising the Yankees would rather trade for him than sign one of those guys, especially given their tax hit. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that 2022 is a pretty clear outlier
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Inspector_666 posted:Cease is younger and I don't think it's hard to argue has a higher ceiling than Montgomery and probably Snell, I don't think it's surprising the Yankees would rather trade for him than sign one of those guys, especially given their tax hit. Snell won the Cy Young twice..... His ceiling is best pitcher in the league. Cease isn't that kind of pitcher.
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mcmagic posted:Snell won the Cy Young twice..... His ceiling is best pitcher in the league. Cease isn't that kind of pitcher. He finished second for the Cy Young in 2022 lol
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drat, good point about Cease finishing 2nd in Cy Young voting in 2022. certainly his backsliding is just an outlier, like 3rd in Cy Young voting in 2022 Alek Manoah
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Blake Snell would literally be a Yankee today if there wasn't a salary cap in baseball.
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mcmagic posted:Blake Snell would literally be a Yankee today if there wasn't a salary cap in baseball. There isn't
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