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If they're gonna stick with this heavy adjustment they are gonna need to do something about the breaches to make them more threatening, maybe just a short puff at the start and then it disappears?
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:it regularly takes me 3 shots at a medium distance to kill regular raiders with the slugger. what am I missing that make people say it’s good against bots? im back to the basic liberator against them. This sounds like you’re confusing another shotgun with the slugger. The slugger has no range falloff and the only times I haven’t gotten a one shot is when I hit a jet pack guy from behind, the pack absorbs the shot and they survive the explosion.
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Mar 12, 2024 19:57
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:it regularly takes me 3 shots at a medium distance to kill regular raiders with the slugger. what am I missing that make people say it’s good against bots? im back to the basic liberator against them. id recommend not missing 2/3 of your shots
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Mar 12, 2024 19:58
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https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1767627610912157728?t=bLsDDmb6_pLxza6jEvFiHw&s=19 someone needs to report to the ministry of truth for their freedom injection
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Mar 12, 2024 20:11
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Oh God, I’m getting flashbacks to EDF and Researcher O’Hara, the dumbest man alive who may not have even been a doctor. “EVERYone knows GI-ant IN-sects can’t fly…! So the Wingdivers will destroy them effortlessly!” Spoiler: the wingdivers were incapacitated immediately
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Mar 12, 2024 20:17
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Is ther esome loving way to DROP the loving stratagem. Not throw.
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Mar 12, 2024 20:18
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Quicksilver6 posted:Oh God, I’m getting flashbacks to EDF and Researcher O’Hara, the dumbest man alive who may not have even been a doctor. Bugs evolve into dragons confirmed !?!?!
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Mar 12, 2024 20:20
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Ihmemies posted:Is ther esome loving way to DROP the loving stratagem. Not throw. Well, you could die with it in your hands
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Mar 12, 2024 20:20
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Ihmemies posted:Is ther esome loving way to DROP the loving stratagem. Not throw. Get knocked into the ragdoll state. Look directly down and throw it at your feet (will still bounce from certain surfaces).
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Mar 12, 2024 20:21
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One shotting chargers finally makes the RR feel worth taking. Now the Spear really needs to one shot hulks.
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Mar 12, 2024 20:26
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new tcs missions are fun once you figure them out a little and yea the RR feels very good on bug maps now
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Mar 12, 2024 20:27
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Molrok posted:Get knocked into the ragdoll state. Look directly down and throw it at your feet (will still bounce from certain surfaces). My hellbomb stratagems bounce from loving mt everest to the bottom althgouh I want the bomb drop next to me
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Mar 12, 2024 20:35
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Ihmemies posted:My hellbomb stratagems bounce from loving mt everest to the bottom althgouh I want the bomb drop next to me A lot of higher up surfaces don't let you call down on them. (I think it's to keep it fair so the bugs/bots can reach turrets, etc)
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Mar 12, 2024 20:37
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boz posted:A lot of higher up surfaces don't let you call down on them. (I think it's to keep it fair so the bugs/bots can reach turrets, etc) Apparently this time the hellbomb worked from the bottom of the montain. I just had to dive with the stratagem off the mountain.
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Mar 12, 2024 20:38
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Section Z posted:Bugs evolve into dragons confirmed !?!?! “HOW is this POS ible? What is this…? WHAT… IS THIS?!” - the highly trained Ravager/Terminid researcher O’Hara, whom you are relying on to inform you of enemy developments. Honestly he was less informative as the average Brasch Tactics video.
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Mar 12, 2024 20:40
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Sindai posted:One shotting chargers finally makes the RR feel worth taking. I find as long as I arc it to their back it does. If they fix the targeting it should be strong enough as it stands.
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Mar 12, 2024 20:44
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Quicksilver6 posted:“HOW is this POS ible? What is this…? WHAT… IS THIS?!” - the highly trained Ravager/Terminid researcher O’Hara, whom you are relying on to inform you of enemy developments. Brasch will tell you that rocks provide cover, in a game where spitters can no-clip that poo poo through a mountain top after you survive a charger and teammate flamethrower  (Be sure to reassure your team it wasn't their fault)
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Mar 12, 2024 20:47
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Section Z posted:I mean, at least he is also willing to die to show you where a real weakspot vulnerable both to small arms fire and rocket launchers is. Citizen Rock hasn't failed me yet vs bots or bugs. Citizen Blind Corner is actually my best friend when using a flamethrower.
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flashman posted:I find as long as I arc it to their back it does. If they fix the targeting it should be strong enough as it stands.
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Mar 12, 2024 20:57
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Your relative position to the hulk and their orientation when you fire. Same way you one shot chargers and titans with it
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Warmachine posted:Citizen Rock hasn't failed me yet vs bots or bugs. Citizen Blind Corner is actually my best friend when using a flamethrower.
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Mar 12, 2024 21:01
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Sindai posted:How do you arc it to their back? Just curve the rail dude.
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Grimnarsson posted:Live, Laugh, Liberate! new thread title
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GlyphGryph posted:Some eagle strats are a line away from you, and some are side to side, I forget which is which. I do wonder where that is draw relative to, though. Your position at some point during the call in so it matters if you move? Your position when throwing/releasing? The angle it hits the ground from, meaning bounces might change it? I’ve never not had it be based on the direction I’m facing as I throw it. It never matters if it bounces around, it always uses the initial direction I was facing as I hucked it to determine which direction they fly in from. Also another useful note about offensive stratagems and enemy aggro that not a lot of people seem to know. When you throw an offensive stratagem, it DM’s every enemy in a mile your home address. Even if they don’t have line of sight on you. And when fresh packs spawn in and see other enemies in pursuit of something, they always join. This might explain some of the complaints I see a lot. People might not understand they’re not just breaking stealth, but setting off a car alarm by hucking tha red beam.
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trizzNPH posted:Bile titans can be 1 hit in the mouth by high explosives. Do it all the time w/ the mech and I only ever play with 3 of my other PC playing friends. Need a direct hit on the mouth though, the crown of its head is not a weak point https://i.imgur.com/ciE6d7z.mp4
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Dinosaurs! posted:Not a wrong first reaction considering the RR's demo video in the stratagem store features a helldiver one-shotting a charger head-on. If the intent was only to be cinematic it was pretty misleading. If memory serves the video shows the second RR shot killing the charger, not the first. A lot of the videos are that way if you pay close attention. The Eagle 110 video seemingly leaves the largest target alive. The Eagle 500kg video shows it being thrown into a large crater with like 4 bug holes, but if you pay close attention to the last few frames while the smoke clears all the bug holes are still open and glowing. The Laser Cannon video shows it killing robots then shooting at a handful of bugs and killing none of them despite blasting away for several seconds while they advance. A number of those videos look good on the surface until you pay attention. BitBasher fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Quicksilver6 posted:“HOW is this POS ible? What is this…? WHAT… IS THIS?!” - the highly trained Ravager/Terminid researcher O’Hara, whom you are relying on to inform you of enemy developments. To save our Super Earth from any alien threat,
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:it regularly takes me 3 shots at a medium distance to kill regular raiders with the slugger. what am I missing that make people say it’s good against bots? im back to the basic liberator against them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lIIOrUPBjY Also at 0:46, I got a couple examples of something I've been noticing recently: the slugger doesn't just kill normal bots, it penetrates right through them. I've seen it mostly when shooting strider pilots from behind and then getting the "shot bounced" icon as the shot bounces off the strider after killing the pilot, but there it happens with a fabricator... and then after that, a clip where I penetrate through a bot and TK the guy the bot was running towards 
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Cheap Shot posted:I’ve never not had it be based on the direction I’m facing as I throw it. It never matters if it bounces around, it always uses the initial direction I was facing as I hucked it to determine which direction they fly in from. Once you understand this though, it's a great tool. Same principle as distracting the guards in a stealth action game. UAV + Recon Armor to know where they're coming from, slip the drag net, and get a nice leisurely clear of an objective point. Where I'm less certain is if this affects the blue-beam call ins as well.
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https://i.imgur.com/yWOmnWD.mp4 Clever girl
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I've moved on from thinking invisible bugs with long tongues as bullshit right into robots with jetpacks that just blow up in your face as bullshit
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:I've moved on from thinking invisible bugs with long tongues as bullshit right into robots with jetpacks that just blow up in your face as bullshit I treat them like clays and snap my shotgun up to blast them from the sky. 
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that silo mission is boring and geometry is full of issues, hope its over soon and I can go back to regular bug smashing
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Evilreaver posted:The arc will try to seek the center of the target you're pointing at, and if there is anything in the way like a small box or rock or something then the arc won't connect and will just spark like that. Thanks for this electrifying effort post on the Arc Thrower  Do you know if Arc shots on Hulks cause any stagger or suppression? If I'm not mistaken they're the class of big Bot that don't suffer from those effects, right? I run Suicides and it doesn't seem to do much to them and I wondered if this is due to missing weak point shots. Also, I've noticed shots seem to be more on target to specific weak points when aimed down the sights, is this the actual case? And I find it hard to predict or prevent arcs from bouncing towards teammates. But now knowing bounces can happen at 90 degree angels I guess it's simply a matter of avoiding using the Thrower when a teammate is ahead of me.
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Hulks can definitely get staggered by railgun shots. Probably other stuff as well.
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:I've moved on from thinking invisible bugs with long tongues as bullshit right into robots with jetpacks that just blow up in your face as bullshit
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I remember someone being surprised earlier that they could be killed while sitting in the extract shuttle waiting for their teammates - well you can be killed even later than that: https://i.imgur.com/5NZTDBr.mp4
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:it regularly takes me 3 shots at a medium distance to kill regular raiders with the slugger. what am I missing that make people say it’s good against bots? im back to the basic liberator against them. It's not a shotgun, it fires slugs. I failed to read the description and didn't understand that at first, thought it was an absolute trash weapon so yeah your shots in first person have to be exactly lined up with the dot to do any damage.
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ErKeL posted:Yeah these assholes suck. The big trick I realised is to shoot them in the legs. They're pretty weak and it will still take them out without the big explosion. They crawl silently and blow up my shins anyway. Feels bad man
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AndyElusive posted:Thanks for this electrifying effort post on the Arc Thrower on bugs at least it doesnt stagger. It also absolutely prioritizes your teammembers over bugs for secondary jumps so avoid them beeing in the vicinity also re: sparkling, it appears to me if its not fully charged but like 80, 90% rectangle moving to the center it goes off much more reliable.
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