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F-35 aesthetically looks dorky compared to the F-16 and that's the one stigma it'll never get past.
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Mar 14, 2024 01:46
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All the 70s-80s super planes had a superior aesthetic to the F-35
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Mar 14, 2024 01:48
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Vampire Panties posted:All the 70s-80s super planes had a superior aesthetic to the F-35 this is true. bring back forest camo, cowards
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Mar 14, 2024 01:51
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tiaz posted:this is true. bring back
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Mar 14, 2024 01:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_goDrMBZep4 Give me those third reich vibes
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Mar 14, 2024 02:19
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The F-35 can't even catch an SR 71, which are almost 60 years old! Truly a waste of money
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Mar 14, 2024 02:34
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Jerk Burger posted:The F-35 can't even catch an SR 71, which are almost 60 years old! Truly a waste of money The F-35's max altitude is less than the U2, it's payload is a fraction of the C-5 Galaxy, and apparently a B-52 has a longer combat range that the 35's ferry range. And get this, the Radar on some absolutely ancient Boeing 707s is better than the F-35. If this thing were any more laughable, WWI aircraft could outturn it.
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Mar 14, 2024 03:10
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HKR posted:F-35 aesthetically looks dorky compared to the F-16 and that's the one stigma it'll never get past. It's true, but the F-35 has grown on me. Like, when the Subaru Forester first came out, I thought it looked weird. I kind of like 'em now.
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Mar 14, 2024 03:12
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Building top tier aircraft is irrelevant when some gps enabled foam and balsa wood with a lawn mower engine is all it takes to disable your economy.
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Mar 14, 2024 03:14
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Mar 14, 2024 03:29
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Should've said "not to rain on your f35 parade"  
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Mar 14, 2024 03:29
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ComfyPants posted:It's true, but the F-35 has grown on me. Like, when the Subaru Forester first came out, I thought it looked weird. I kind of like 'em now. As AI's resident Subaru Forester restorer/enhancer weirdo I approve of this
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Mar 14, 2024 03:37
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My favorite Subaru fact is they noticed lesbians were buying their cars and responded by marketing to lesbians.
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Mar 14, 2024 03:42
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Tai posted:It was such a painful conversation trying to explain the days of dog fighting died decades ago. It's who spots who first at stupidly long range. He still didn't get it and thinks Top Gun is still a thing. In an all out assault, sure, but aircraft tend to be involved in brinkmanship, emergent scenarios and international incidents. The perception and actual ability of a fighter jet to knife fight a merged opponent is important in more than the obvious ways. Sometimes you can't just shoot down the target, you need to visually identify it. Almost all modern jets still carry auto cannons. That being said, if the F-35 is only the third or fourth best dogfighter, it is still arguably the most capable jet in the world. It's probably the best jet that has over 1000 examples produced
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Mar 14, 2024 03:58
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Mar 14, 2024 04:10
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dogfighting will get extra pointless when the sun is blocked out by a mass swarm of air superiority drones which individually maneuver and have a payload worth poo poo, but in numbers can police and block out the region to most existing manned aircraft. of course this requires raw industrial capacity, which russia has less of than most other powers including the west and china.
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Mar 14, 2024 05:11
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dad gay, sopwith
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Mar 14, 2024 05:24
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We should send Ukraine some F-35s, I bet they could put them to good use.
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Mar 14, 2024 06:06
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LRADIKAL posted:In an all out assault, sure, but aircraft tend to be involved in brinkmanship, emergent scenarios and international incidents. The perception and actual ability of a fighter jet to knife fight a merged opponent is important in more than the obvious ways. Sometimes you can't just shoot down the target, you need to visually identify it. Almost all modern jets still carry auto cannons. Last I knew the F35 carried an autocannon, but that’s all it did. Carry it. Was not capable of firing it.
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Mar 14, 2024 06:36
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I'm 100% with the Viper fans. I used to live in a super cheap house; it was super cheap to rent because the F-16's would leave the local AFB every morning OVER my goddamned bedroom. Flew low enough over me to read the tail codes. Loudest thing I've ever heard. Scared the poo poo out of me.
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Mar 14, 2024 06:59
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Just like take a b52, slap some ultra ultra long range stealth missiles on it and use some stealth drones to designate targets for it. Beyond visual range air combat is such an outdated concept. We could do intercontinental air to air.
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Mar 14, 2024 07:32
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The Lone Badger posted:Last I knew the F35 carried an autocannon, but that’s all it did. Carry it. Was not capable of firing it. jesus loving christ, that’s one of the dumbest posts i’ve read in this thread yet. both 5th-gens carry cannons as a lesson learned from the f-4. doctrine and reality tend to diverge, and when that happened with the f-4 they had to course correct with gun pods doing this with the 5th-gens would negate their stealth capabilities, so the they went ahead and built them in just in case. the situation would have to be galaxy level hosed for those cannons to be anywhere close to useful, but poo poo happens dead weight is not a thing. if something isn’t useful it’s either stripped out or never mounted
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Mar 14, 2024 07:37
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zone posted:but you see, death to Amerikkka because something multipolar world and end of some evil empire Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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Mar 14, 2024 07:47
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The Lone Badger posted:Last I knew the F35 carried an autocannon, but that’s all it did. Carry it. Was not capable of firing it. There was an issue with some of the F-35A auto cannons that was making them inaccurate and damaging their mounting when fired. So those planes were told to not fire the autocannons until the issue was fixed. That was some time ago so I doubt it’s still an issue.
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Mar 14, 2024 07:52
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If you want actual experts in making planes that can't use their weapons without literally shaking themselves apart, you want the soviets.
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Mar 14, 2024 08:11
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TrashMammal posted:jesus loving christ, that’s one of the dumbest posts i’ve read in this thread yet. both 5th-gens carry cannons as a lesson learned from the f-4. doctrine and reality tend to diverge, and when that happened with the f-4 they had to course correct with gun pods My information is very old, it's from when they first started flying them and hadn't yet written the software for the gun, making it impossible to use. I would assume it has been fixed now but I would also not trust my assumptions.
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Mar 14, 2024 09:10
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Good video about the f35 https://youtu.be/YQgNwrtVoZ4?si=cSb_2LtPuU66qdNp
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Mar 14, 2024 09:24
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I think we should give Ukraine 200 F-16s and 200 F-35s to compare so we can put this debate to bed once and for all.
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Mar 14, 2024 09:44
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Ubik_Lives posted:I think we should give Ukraine 200 F-16s and 200 F-35s to compare so we can put this debate to bed once and for all.
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Mar 14, 2024 10:52
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steinrokkan posted:If you want actual experts in making planes that can't use their weapons without literally shaking themselves apart, you want the soviets. KA52, an helicopter that is actually expected to use its gun, featured the same gun as the fabled wunderwaffe Terminator. I did some phot overlaying and angle calculations on the videos of the terminator using its guns and I found at theoretical maximum, if it fired a full burst, it would not be able to reliably hit a human sized target at 50m and a large house at 300. There are photos of KA52 where it has shot itself with it's own gun as the gun is so poorly designed it wobbles enough to hit the platform carrying it. So in conclusion: Soviet engineers are so ahead of the curve they built an aircraft that can hit something, even when not firing at anything.
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Mar 14, 2024 11:05
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Ubik_Lives posted:I think we should give Ukraine 200 F-16s and 200 F-35s to compare so we can put this debate to bed once and for all. Why stop there? Give them some F-15c and F-15e as well
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Mar 14, 2024 11:07
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ded posted:Why stop there? Give them some F-15c and F-15e as well Indeed, and also I've always been curious about the relative performance of Gripen, Eurofighter and F-18 compared to those
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Mar 14, 2024 12:15
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Need some B-52s to compare payload and range
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Mar 14, 2024 12:19
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Can it stay airborne as long as a zeppelin?
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Mar 14, 2024 12:31
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You'll need another 200 F-35 so you can test with and without Luneburg lenses.
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Mar 14, 2024 13:06
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equip those F-35s with B61s
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Mar 14, 2024 13:30
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Your friendly reminder that the guy who spent months on Russian TV making GBS threads on the F-35, Pierre Sprey, wanted the F-15 to have no radar or electronics and wanted it to be a dog fighter like the Spitfire or Hurricane lmao. He was booted off the F-15 project while getting laughed out the door. Dumb rear end
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Mar 14, 2024 14:18
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Was he ever employed as a designer or engineer anywhere? Other than being great at lying the sprey and co had no qualifications at all, if I recall correctly. Either way speaks volumes of American journalism standards (or lack thereof) that they are known as A10 and F35 designers rather than obscure internet lolcows.
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Mar 14, 2024 15:22
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haddedam posted:Was he ever employed as a designer or engineer anywhere? Possibly less. code:
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Mar 14, 2024 15:36
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So he was one of the reformer dumbasses?
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