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Mercury_Storm posted:Loving the responses from the freep/adjacent people: Something something uniparty something
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:If Trump has a heart attack or something and dies during a civil appeal, is he back to legally "not guilty" like in a criminal case? Would the government still start selling off assets for Caroll and NYS to collect? One weird trick
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Failed Imagineer posted:One weird trick I think I'm ok with this trick for Trump.
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Nervous posted:I think I'm ok with this trick for Trump. It’d be a hell of a plea bargain.
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Cadaver synod when
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Checking in on Scott McAfee's Wikipedia page I learned that he previously worked under Fani Willis back in the late 2010s. This makes the whole scenario as played out rather bizarre in retrospect, having to air your previous boss's dirty laundry out in public.
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zoux posted:The "personal chemistry" should've instantly negated it. You don't hire a person with whom you have a personal romantic relationship. She didn't. Well technically she renewed his contract at a point during the relationship, but they didnt start a romantic relationship until after she hired him. They had been friends of some sort before then though and Wade had done work for her prior as part of her transition team.
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:She didn't. Well technically she renewed his contract at a point during the relationship, but they didnt start a romantic relationship until after she hired him. Assuming you believe her. Like, let's be real here, they absolutely lied about some of this. Wade's answers that 'I didn't sleep with anyone during the marriage because I considered the marriage to be over' were absolute horseshit, and the cash paybacks without an ounce of paper trail are hilariously convenient. If she's willing to sleep with him during the case, she's willing to have done it before, and they were close enough that it wouldn't have been remotely shocking. It just shouldn't matter. He wasn't doing this for the money, she didn't make bank on his mid-af income from the job and it doesn't prejudice Trump et all. This was just a hail Mary 'one weird trick to avoid Rico charges'. Edit: also, Wade resigned https://twitter.com/gringsam/status/1768719792402248188?t=IQQYyUxrkr1rd53uuu78xg&s=19 Caros fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Mar 15, 2024 |
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Tesseraction posted:Checking in on Scott McAfee's Wikipedia page I learned that he previously worked under Fani Willis back in the late 2010s. This makes the whole scenario as played out rather bizarre in retrospect, having to air your previous boss's dirty laundry out in public. it's like none of you have ever had coworkers before as a whole the closeness of the public defenders to the cops they're supposed to protect us from is far FAR more of a problem because that effects people's lives. this was coworkers loving and...knowing...each other? but public prosecutors letting cops off because they know each other is never going to be a "problem" because the defendants they're, figuratively, screwing are poor. then a rich person pointed to a problem they helped perpetuate and...wow it's a huge problem!! how can you trust these people to police themselves?? next we'll have cops that investigate themselves!! *wank*. it's a problem that's only a "problem" because it's effecting rich people.
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I mean I'm not surprised that the legal community is small enough for this to happen but it's still a bizarre state of affairs when years later you're asking your former boss to lean into the mic and exhaustively enumerate their sex life.
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4535432-navarro-emergency-appeal-supreme-court-contempt-of-congress-prison-reporting-deadline/quote:Former Trump economic adviser Peter Navarro filed an emergency appeal with the Supreme Court on Friday, a last-ditch effort to avoid reporting for his prison term as he appeals his conviction for contempt of Congress.
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Ready to do the crime, crying like a baby faced with doing the time.
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DarkHorse posted:https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4535432-navarro-emergency-appeal-supreme-court-contempt-of-congress-prison-reporting-deadline/ News just in, finding out phase reportedly not nearly as fun as the loving are phases. I'm sure there is a few people who put themselves out for trump watching this case closely, and probably not very happily.
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InsertPotPun posted:i mean part of the problem with the justice system in the country is that there aren't enough judges and the community as a whole is insular and incestuous. it's only a problem because states are cheap. The defense has been spending a lot of time & treasure trying to either derail or delay this case. Methinks their defense may be a tad lacking.
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The tension is rising, walls closing in. Pants being shat. https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1768749836440871010 e: useless whining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRGszO-Z1W8 OgNar fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Mar 16, 2024 |
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haveblue posted:Anyone who is not full-throatedly praising Trump at this exact moment is anti-Trump. Even if they just stopped or intend to start soon Well, there's two additional qualifications you have to include: 1. You must not only be praising him, but you must be taking the action that I, an ignorant observer, think is the best plan. AND 2. It must also be working, with no caveats or difficulties. Given how poorly these two go together, there's a whole lot of anti-Trump efforts going on by people who are, in fact, trying to stick their necks out for Trump.
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PainterofCrap posted:The defense has been spending a lot of time & treasure trying to either derail or delay this case. Well, yeah. If they thought they clearly had facts and law on their side they would just do that and it would be pretty obvious even to casual observers like us that they were right. Remember that a lot of what Trump is charged with in NY, DC, Fl and GA is well documented and pretty clearly in violation of black letter law. Which is part of why Trump is spending so much effort on novel immunity petitions. If his defense is, “I didn’t do it” then the prosecutors can just point to all the evidence that yes, he did. If his defense is, “it wasn’t illegal” then that is easily argued with the text of the law and the history of its application. So, he’s stuck with, “I did it but it wasn’t illegal for me because I’m special.” Murgos fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Mar 16, 2024 |
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OgNar posted:The tension is rising, walls closing in. And over only 4mo in prison. If he was a wage earner who might lose his house over being imprisoned and out of work for that long, or perhaps was looking at dying in prison, I could understand but none of that is true for him at all. making GBS threads his pants over a glorified wrist slap for blatantly ignoring subpoenas while making up stuff is ridiculous.
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Murgos posted:Well, yeah. If they thought they clearly had facts and law on their side they would just do that and it would be pretty obvious even to casual observers like us that they were right. Edit: Christian concern trolling (convenient for me, actually being a Christian) is pretty fun too. Their leader is the antithesis of their claimed religion and the only answer they seem to have to that is Biden's worse in increasingly insane ways if pressed The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 16, 2024 |
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Murgos posted:Well, yeah. If they thought they clearly had facts and law on their side they would just do that and it would be pretty obvious even to casual observers like us that they were right. Isn't this literally the quote of "If you have the facts on your side pound the facts, if you have the law pound the law, if you don't have either pound the table."?
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Raenir Salazar posted:Isn't this literally the quote of "If you have the facts on your side pound the facts, if you have the law pound the law, if you don't have either pound the table."? Except that in this context the 'table' is the us supreme court losing its mind and/or regaining the presidency to throw out the cases against him.
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If you don't have either pound the entire country, leaving grease stains.
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Trump Legal Troubles: Just Start Pounding
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The official response is now "David did a lot of hosed up things, but he was God's chosen leader, so you have to give Trump a pass.". Seriously. Trump is antithetical to everything they claim to believe, but that's okay because God. And the obvious rejoinder is "Why wouldn't God use Joe Biden?"
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His ways are mysterious and also never involve Democrats. Hillary Clinton is genuinely devout, teaches Methodist Sunday School, attends Church regularly. She's anathema. Trump can't name a single Bible verse. Not even Jesus Wept. I am an unsatisfactory Christian. I am not going to sell all I have and give it to the poor. Ask me about my favorite books of the Bible? I have a stack. (Ecclesiastes, if you're curious.) Trump couldn't answer that. Not as a direct question. It's not a hard question. All you have to say is any of the Gospels. Trump couldn't manage that. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:His ways are mysterious and also never involve Democrats. There are several lines of important religious thought, and these were public theology, big in the politics of the 40s-70s that are now seen as communism by the right. Even as late as 2008 all the major candidates (in both parties even!) had view points shaped by Christian Realism (and Bar Ran Dun fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Also evangelicals don't approve of charity because reasons.
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In a way I’m sort of grateful that Trump laid bare the absolute hypocritical farce that western evangelicalism really is for all to see.
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Huh I did not know I share a favorite sermon with Hillary Clinton. Number 19 “You are Accepted.” http://media.sabda.org/alkitab-2/Religion-Online.org%20Books/Tillich,%20Paul%20-%20The%20Shaking%20of%20the%20Foundations.pdf#page114
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Trump can't name a single Bible verse. Not even Jesus Wept. I'm voting for the Dean next election. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4FGzE4endQ
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SpelledBackwards posted:I'm voting for the Dean next election. Peltons campaign is just a Trojan horse for Subway to sweep into power
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Interesting story on the Willis case in WaPo today. In case you are not well-read on it, there was a "there" there, although McAfee didn't see anything worth getting the entire thing thrown out. Willis hiring Wade smelled to the defense attorneys from the get-go because Wade was clearly inexperienced, and this is how this all got rolling. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/16/fani-willis-misconduct-accusations-ashleigh-merchant/ quote:How a sleuth defense attorney and a disgruntled law partner damaged the Trump Georgia case
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Arsenic Lupin posted:rump can't name a single Bible verse. Not even Jesus Wept. "2 Corinthians walk into a bar..."
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I hate to say it but I really think this "run out the clock by delaying things until the election" is going to work. If I were to bet right now, I honestly think Trump is going to win 6 months from now. And after that? Then we're in totally uncharted territory and god only knows from there but all signs point to another attempt at full fascism and I'm having a hard time seeing viable ways to really stop it. Donald has said as much and the country seems ripe for it. I really hope I'm wrong.
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He's going to run out the clock, lose, and trump will be convicted during biden's second term.
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BiggerBoat posted:I hate to say it but I really think this "run out the clock by delaying things until the election" is going to work. If I were to bet right now, I honestly think Trump is going to win 6 months from now. And after that? Then we're in totally uncharted territory and god only knows from there but all signs point to another attempt at full fascism and I'm having a hard time seeing viable ways to really stop it. Donald has said as much and the country seems ripe for it. You've been saying this kind of stuff a lot, but I'm increasingly starting to feel like he's not really delaying enough things quickly enough. It's just moving things closer to the actual election itself. And he's already lost some cases, like the Jean Carrol and NY stuff. It just seems to be frantically shuffling the trial deck around near-randomly and praying that he draws 16 Kings in a row or something.
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Uglycat posted:He's going to run out the clock, lose, and trump will be convicted during biden's second term. I bet he'll say it's all an unfair stolen witch hunt hoax and bolt to Russia or Saudi Arabia.
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ElegantFugue posted:You've been saying this kind of stuff a lot, but I'm increasingly starting to feel like he's not really delaying enough things quickly enough. It's just moving things closer to the actual election itself. And he's already lost some cases, like the Jean Carrol and NY stuff. It just seems to be frantically shuffling the trial deck around near-randomly and praying that he draws 16 Kings in a row or something. Yeah we're on track for maximum comedy scenario where his day to day trial news is happening in September and October.
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Trump's gonna get imprisoned, win the election, and walk out because he'll pardon himself for any federal crimes and a state can't imprison the sitting president under the supremacy clause.
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