|
oh ffs watching it now and the white horse with the bloody patch just walked by and like  e: lmao "he who fights monsters should take care not to become a monster" cmon y'all did not earn even a minute of this Phenotype fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Mar 16, 2024 |
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 16:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 14:35 |
|
|
No see Crosby planted a replacement pilot's face into a table and screamed at him for being negligent, time to quote Nietszche about how war has changed him.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 16:21
|
|
|
HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:buddy they're in the uk. holland and the uk are not that close. that was also the one person from the ground crew with lines too. I've been wrong before, and I'll do it again!
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 16:25
|
|
|
"War, war never changes." "Croz! War has changed!"
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 17:03
|
|
|
Arc Hammer posted:No see Crosby planted a replacement pilot's face into a table and screamed at him for being negligent, time to quote Nietszche about how war has changed him. He's also hosed a spy.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 17:07
|
|
|
Yeah im gonna agree with the thread, good visuals and some scenes but very inconsistent writing and weird decisions with what they depict. The Tuskegee air man storyline should have been running by mid season and yeah, they all should meet in the POW camp. Could have even worked in the Battle of Bamber Bridge and did some Commentary and maybe make a buzz like how Watchmen depicted the Tulsa Massacre, but that would get in the way of the American hagiography since that would put the US and Germany at parity. Indeed, I kind of want to make a saucy gif of the flag scene by playing it in reverse, they put the flag back together, remove the American one, and put the Nazi flag back, Slaughterhouse 5 style. I did enjoy the POW camp scenes, it’s been a long long time since those were depicted anywhere, maybe even since the 1963 Great Escape, which was also cool that it was mentioned.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 17:53
|
|
|
I've been reading Crosby's book and if anyone feels bad about keeping names straight, know that Crosby said the 100th had four guys named Bucky.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 17:58
|
|
|
mllaneza posted:Okay, that had some real loving problems. I'll call out one that hasn't been mentioned yet. You can also see Bel Powley in a constantly manic/terrified state (with one of the Peaky Blinder's lads as part of the Dutch resistance) trying to keep the Frank Family (Liev Schreiber as Otto Frank) alive in the NatGeo "A Small Light". Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Mar 16, 2024 |
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 18:12
|
|
|
I hadn't heard about the Stalag VII-A liberation before so I looked it up. It seems that some POW did in fact grab and American flag and flew it from the top of the camp but it was only after the camp guards had surrendered to the American armor division and I'm having a hard time finding any records to suggest the POWs liberated themselves before the army arrived. But it does track with Bucky Forrest Gump-ing himself into WW2 history moments he wasn't there for. There was no way thr filmmakers were going to pass up a golden opportunity for American patriotism like having a flag get raised over a liberated POW camp in the most dramatic fashion possible. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Mar 16, 2024 |
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 18:18
|
|
|
If they didn't send Rosie to see a concentration camp, I'm sure they would have had Bucky say "Come on fellas, I heard there is another kind of camp down the road from here."
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 18:24
|
|
|
While I don't think the show is terrible it definitely needed another pass on the script. Stuff like the Tuskegee Airmen only appearing in the last two episodes or the diversions into stuff that had little to no payoff (like the bizarre short circuiting of the escape through occupied territory where there was a lot of focus and then all of a sudden they just offhand made it back.)
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 20:52
|
|
|
honestly that stuff felt like it came because of too many passes at the script
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 21:04
|
|
|
Funny part is that this episode was longer than the rest but still only about an hour of actual footage because the credits and the biography section ran about ten minutes on its own.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 21:19
|
|
|
Was Crosby fighting monsters what made him sleep with spy lady?
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 21:20
|
|
|
jisforjosh posted:Was Crosby fighting monsters what made him sleep with spy lady? No he just wanted to ensure that America stayed on top of the Brits. And then they somehow managed to film a sex scene with them lying sideways three feet apart.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 21:21
|
|
|
HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:honestly that stuff felt like it came because of too many passes at the script Yeah. The show feels very much like whoever was in charge deciding to do the bare minimum to respond to someone going "what about x?"
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 21:39
|
|
|
Arc Hammer posted:And then they somehow managed to film a sex scene with them lying sideways three feet apart. dang dude was hung
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 21:46
|
|
|
McNally posted:dang dude was hung That's the real reason Westgate told him to go back to his wife Jean.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 22:00
|
|
|
Did the real Crosby even cheat on his wife? If not, seems like a lovely thing to put into a TV show that supposedly depicts his real life.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 22:10
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:Did the real Crosby even cheat on his wife? If not, seems like a lovely thing to put into a TV show that supposedly depicts his real life. I wondered that myself. Westgate wasn’t a real person so it’d be weird to have him portrayed as a cheater if he wasn’t, especially with the “This man was the greatest father and husband of all time.” bio at the end credits.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 23:39
|
|
|
So what was the mission that secret spy English lady was on? What did she accomplish?
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 23:54
|
|
|
MANY THANKS YANKS Haggard old Brit to plucky child, tears rolling down both faces: “Fare well glorious Americans. Fly safe. You truly did have the most sophisticated and precise means of aerial bombardment. In broad daylight. True masters of the air.
|
|
#
?
Mar 16, 2024 23:59
|
|
|
CubanMissile posted:I wondered that myself. Westgate wasn’t a real person so it’d be weird to have him portrayed as a cheater if he wasn’t, especially with the “This man was the greatest father and husband of all time.” bio at the end credits. His wife passed over a decade before his memoir was published. Maybe he had a fling and said something about it in an interview or something
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 00:00
|
|
|
CubanMissile posted:I wondered that myself. Westgate wasn’t a real person so it’d be weird to have him portrayed as a cheater if he wasn’t, especially with the “This man was the greatest father and husband of all time.” bio at the end credits. Westgate was based on Alexandra Wingate in Crosby's memoir and while he never flat out said "we banged constantly," it was pretty clear that he was doing more than meeting her for dinner and drinks.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 00:16
|
|
|
They were poling.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 00:18
|
|
|
Skyl3lazer posted:So what was the mission that secret spy English lady was on? What did she accomplish? It appears she was able to pass as French and trained in IMINT. But that what the Resistance (and French refugees who went to work with the SOE) was for, which makes those scenes all the more superfluous, because From what I remember in the book, and it's been a while, she wasn't a spy, she just worked for/with SOE.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 00:33
|
|
|
Monica Bellucci posted:They were
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 01:07
|
|
|
Monica Bellucci posted:They were poling. McNally posted:dang dude was hung
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 01:11
|
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:It appears she was able to pass as French and trained in IMINT. But that what the Resistance (and French refugees who went to work with the SOE) was for, which makes those scenes all the more superfluous, because It's been a few years since I read Crosby's memoir (A Wing and a Prayer: The "Bloody 100th" Bomb Group of the U.S. Eighth Air Force in Action Over Europe in World War II, and it's a good read), but iirc he never actually knew what she did. Just that she wouldn't talk about it. And that she was the first woman he met who could take a shot of liquor without flinching. Kind of weird that the show changed her name and made her an undercover spy rather than just using the real woman as written in Crosby's memoir, because that would serve the exact same purpose in the show without making things up.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 02:58
|
|
|
Perhaps they did keep her name and just had her doing stuff that he saw. Then they needed more scenes for the show so they invented a spy plot for her that went absolutely no where
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 03:15
|
|
|
I bet the unaired episode where she helps Rosie get back from occupied France, the luftwaffe gets baited into the air, and the TGA defend some bombers was really cool
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 03:52
|
|
|
GoGoGadgetChris posted:I bet the unaired episode where she helps Rosie get back from occupied France, the luftwaffe gets baited into the air, and the TGA defend some bombers was really cool Release the Orloff Cut
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 04:51
|
|
|
I hate to jump on the dogpile here. I watched the final episode earlier today. And while WWII aircraft, mainly fighters, are totally my jam, it just kind of left me cold. Too many cooks standing over the pot on this show. It made me start rewatching BoB. And I know it’s a very unfair comparison, but man Masters just completely shrivels and pales next to just the first two BoB episodes.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 05:00
|
|
|
So I guess with the relatively wet fart of the back half of MotA, this is just going to turn into a general Playtone/Amblin WW2 series thread right? I'm overdue for a Pacific rewatch.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 05:07
|
|
|
So am I, I’d definitely be down for that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 05:08
|
|
|
Flux Wildly posted:MANY THANKS I had a teacher in High School who had been a kid in England during WW2, and did hang around a US Base during the war, and he said basically that is how i felt during the time, "oh boy all these strapping Americans have come to help up defeat Gerry!". And then he followed it up and "I was a kid and didn't have a bloody lick of sense". Also I made this 
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 11:16
|
|
|
Jerusalem posted:It was VERY important we spend an episode showing one of the Bucks being a giant drunken rear end in a top hat in Iceland so we would all be wowed at how cool he is. What a surprise that the Bucks stayed in to go bomb innocent people in service of imperialism in Korea and Vietnam.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 12:02
|
|
|
Fantasy future seasons (assuming they are good haha): Eastern Front Burma Desert Rats (I know, I know there is that series)
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 12:33
|
|
|
Lampsacus posted:Fantasy future seasons (assuming they are good haha): An enemy at the gates based on the book would be great. There's way more going on besides the sniper duel and also maybe set some ideas about the way the soviets fought the war straight? Lol no way, there aren't any Americans to wax poetic about the war there. Operations torch/husky/ Invasion of mainland Italy as the name escapes me right now would be good, plus you get Americans to center the show on. The Italian front always feels forgotten in ww2 stuff, Churchill "soft underbelly of europe" that was made of stone. Did the british have any decent intelligence during the war or did they just do planning by vibes of the upper classes?
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 12:46
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 14:35 |
|
|
The British had a commando called Christopher Lee and his war record is sealed until 2030 minimum.
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2024 12:57
|
|