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OwlFancier posted:I think the only one that made me twitch was when I used to do the advertisements and the person in charge of that pronounced tsingtao beer as "tuh-sing-t'-ow" which was like, surely you could get closer just by trying to make it parsable with english noises. I once knew a guy who pronounced it ‘T’sin-go’
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Mar 17, 2024 16:53
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Pretty much everyone in NI pronounces Lidl as lid-l because it fits better with our accents, even though the TV ads stress that it's Lee-dil.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:00
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Tsingtao is the old form for Qingtao, as the brewery was established by German colonialists some 120 years ago. There was also a local pidginquote:Deutschland master in schipp make make bumm bam fisst. quote:The German masters (in their) ships make a lot of noise.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:05
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I think I saw that DVD.Clyde Radcliffe posted:Pretty much everyone in NI pronounces Lidl as lid-l because it fits better with our accents, even though the TV ads stress that it's Lee-dil.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:12
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Everyone I know says Lid-l too.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:18
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Yeah, that can’t be right. They even use a pun on “little” in their slogan
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Mar 17, 2024 17:22
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Yeah, both here in Peterborough and down with the rest of the family in the West Country it's just 'Lid-le'. I'm not sure I've ever seen or heard any adverts where it's pronounced 'Lee-dle'. On that subject, I get a small amount of schadenfreude from 1) car adverts pointedly using their native pronunciations now the UK/English markets are increasingly a sideshow (hence why it's now 'Schkoda', 'Hyun-day' and 'Datch-a') and 2) How much piss this boils in certain quarters.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:22
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Angrymog posted:Everyone I know says Lid-l too. Everyone I know in Finland does, too. Well, either lid-l or nazi-mart, but you get the picture
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Mar 17, 2024 17:29
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BalloonFish posted:car adverts pointedly using their native pronunciations now the UK/English markets are increasingly a sideshow (hence why it's now 'Schkoda', 'Hyun-day' and 'Datch-a') I’d not thought on it before, but holy poo poo, that’s a fantastic insight.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:36
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Wait until you hear how the Irish pronounce “Peugot”
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Mar 17, 2024 17:39
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middle of lidl
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Mar 17, 2024 17:41
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Lid-awls round here
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Mar 17, 2024 17:54
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Matinee posted:Yeah, that can’t be right. They even use a pun on “little” in their slogan Just to confirm I'm not going mad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh8O7vSN08M They even end with the pun, "Big on quality, lee-dil on price"
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Mar 17, 2024 17:55
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Fair enough. Big vibes of this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-mYoEpVXFbs
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Mar 17, 2024 18:03
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One lot of message boards I used to go on at the dawn of the interwebs, they had someone who called themself "Grammar Board Nazi" who would go round correcting everyone's grammar and punctuation. Now I rarely bother unless Itz ONe Ov aRe OwN and I just want to p them off.
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Mar 17, 2024 18:39
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These days someone calling themselves a grammar nazi would be more likely to be going around claiming that Jews invented semicolons to cause phrase mixing.
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Mar 17, 2024 18:45
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:One lot of message boards I used to go on at the dawn of the interwebs, they had someone who called themself "Grammar Board Nazi" who would go round correcting everyone's grammar and punctuation. SA used to be pretty unique in that you would get shot if you didn't do basic punctuation which was a godsend when in most other forums you tended to have a few very prolific posters who only communicated with incomprehensible word salad. Not sure what caused a general improvement in grammar and punctuation on the Internet though as now even random reddit and comment section posts tend to be reasonably punctuated. Improvements in automatic spell checking?
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Mar 17, 2024 18:45
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The one that always surprised me was the 'correct' pronunciation of IKEA being ee-kay-ah.
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Mar 17, 2024 18:48
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Oh no what have I started  I was mostly joking about the 'erbs, I do find it amusing as an example of non-RP and American English being similar. Another one being the glottal stop as detailed in this SMBC comic which I started noticing in my US colleagues when they talk about "bu'ons" on our devices. Mebh is right, I've stopped caring for the most part (hard to deprogram(me) yourself from being the kid that's "good at words"). The only ones that make me shudder still are the hypercorrect plurals I hear some Americans use - "process-eeez" and "bias-eeez". Presumably influenced by words like basis or crisis, but they're just normal plurals, stop it! Also I like that "earthed" is a 2-syllable word for our Irish colleagues 
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Mar 17, 2024 18:50
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Guavanaut posted:These days someone calling themselves a grammar nazi would be more likely to be going around claiming that Jews invented semicolons to cause phrase mixing. Whereas we all know that semicolons are used when your grammar is half-arsed.
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Mar 17, 2024 18:55
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Mebh posted:The one that always surprised me was the 'correct' pronunciation of IKEA being ee-kay-ah. the correct pronunciation of "i" is [i], or maybe [i:]. that's pretty low on the surprisingness scale same for the other letters, "ikea" is more or less [ikea] in every reasonable language
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Mar 17, 2024 18:58
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Bobstar posted:Oh no what have I started Cairo Arabic also has the glottal stop. I took a taxi one time & said I wanted to go to الدقي (Dokki), and the driver confirmed Do'i. (There are many other examples, coffee, قهوة (ahawa in Cairo), cat (قطة ) "ota" in Cairo - often when using this letter ق but always eg not in القاهرة which is Al Qahira (Cairo) ), I thought he was taking the p because I was from London then I realized he had no idea I was from London. Most Egyptians assumed I was German and tried out their best German on me if they knew any. jaete posted:the correct pronunciation of "i" is [i], or maybe [i:]. that's pretty low on the surprisingness scale This one is interesting because Americans say "Eye-raq" "Eye-ran" when we say I-raq with the "I" like the i in the middle of hit but then we go all American and say Eye-keeya instead of what would be most natural following our Iran Iraq pronunciation to say I-kaya which is halfway to Eekaya. (Now I know why they invented the how to pronounce things alphabet whose name escapes me just now. Phonemes?) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Mar 17, 2024 19:08
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IPA, to annoy beer snobs.
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Mar 17, 2024 19:15
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there's a whole podcast on this topic called the history of english sadly, yanks aren't always wrong when they say their words are the "original" or "proper" english. the classic being the anglo-saxon "yard" rather than the norman french "garden". they're also the same word if you think about it, yard-en, from some older base
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Mar 17, 2024 19:19
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Mebh posted:The one that always surprised me was the 'correct' pronunciation of IKEA being ee-kay-ah. When Nokia became one of my company's clients it was very odd to hear the American big wigs talking about winning No-key-a.
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Mar 17, 2024 19:23
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shoulda told em to eat a yo-gurt about it
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Mar 17, 2024 19:25
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My nan always said yard (and fall for autumn) so I think some of these changes are quite recent Hyacinth Bucketisms (as with herb, the hypercorrected haitch came from middle class herbalist ladies in the 20s during the first medicine from nature revival).
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Mar 17, 2024 19:25
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We all looked forward to the release of Morrowind Tribuneral
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Mar 17, 2024 19:29
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And thinking on it I remember she did because she taught me the mnemonic "spring forward, fall back" for the clocks, so it must have been in regular colloquial use sometime in the late 1910s at least for that to make any sense, as we didn't have daylight savings before then. (And I still call my back yard a yard, because calling the slabs, dirt, plantpots, and outhouse a garden would be an insult to gardeners  )
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Mar 17, 2024 19:30
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smellmycheese posted:Wait until you hear how the
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Mar 17, 2024 19:43
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Liam Nissan
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Mar 17, 2024 19:46
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These videos doing Shakespeare as it would have been spoken used to really annoy one of my Hyacinth Bucket friends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M Apparently we miss a lot of puns etc in Shakespeare by insisting on use of received pronunciation.
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Mar 17, 2024 19:53
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Guavanaut posted:And thinking on it I remember she did because she taught me the mnemonic "spring forward, fall back" for the clocks, so it must have been in regular colloquial use sometime in the late 1910s at least for that to make any sense, as we didn't have daylight savings before then. Fall meaning autumn is one of those old English words that travelled to the colonies and remained in use while falling out of favour here. Growing up we a space out back which was some slabs, an unkempt patch of grass, dog kennel and bits of old brushes and poo poo slowly decaying. It was always the back yard. The front of the house had a lawn with flower borders and a tree and was always called the front garden
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Mar 17, 2024 19:55
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Rear Garden Boys was really popular in my youth
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Mar 17, 2024 19:59
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Yeah I would use yard/garden variably based on what you're describing. The old terraces backing onto an alley have yards.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:00
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It probably shouldn't but yards in my head are like paved or concrete or whatever.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:16
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Chubby Henparty posted:We all looked forward to the release of Morrowind Tribuneral This one is kind of funny because when I was about 11 and still had bit a of shaky understanding of English pronunciation, me and my cousin used to pronounce "Morrowind Tribunal" as "Morrohwhined Treebhunhal". Eventually my aunt corrected us because she couldn't stand it and that was that. The logic behind the first was pronouncing it like "winding someone up", the rest was just mixing in Czech pronunciation. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Mar 17, 2024 20:26
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NotJustANumber99 posted:It probably shouldn't but yards in my head are like paved or concrete or whatever. Fred West school of gardening
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Mar 17, 2024 20:29
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah I would use yard/garden variably based on what you're describing. The old terraces backing onto an alley have yards. NotJustANumber99 posted:It probably shouldn't but yards in my head are like paved or concrete or whatever. For the 1890s terrace I live on, each house has a concrete fenced area directly off the back, that the kitchen door opens onto - which I (and it seems everyone else) calls the 'yard'. This is where people store bikes, bins etc. and where there's an outdoor tap. Then there is a pathway that runs parallel to the terrace behind each yard, accessed by a gate from the yard of each house and by a tunnel that runs through the middle of each 'unit' of the terrace (four houses, and each side of the street has eight units). This pathway and tunnel goes by a huge variety of regional names - being from the south I call it an alley. But the Peterborough natives call the tunnel bit a 'cut' and the open path the 'jitty'. Whatever it is, on the other side of it from the yard is each house's fenced area with grass, flower beds and a vegetable patch, which is the garden. There's also the walled-in area out the front between the front door and the gate onto the pavement, which both my partner and I call the 'front garden' even though it only has gravel, wheelie bins and some pot plants in. But other houses in the street have much more greenery in theirs. E: V V V V Yeah, I remember that one too. There was also this gem from the early days:  The moment he won the original leadership election there were people, in and outside of Labour, who were banging the "he's just not electable!" drum and then worked every second of the next four years to make sure that that was the case. BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Mar 17, 2024 20:30
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Coming in late for the Corbyn monstering chat, but the very first one I remember was 'Jeremy Corbyn wants gender segregation on trains', and you had to read right to the end of the story to find out the actual truth, is that a campaigner had approached him with the idea of female-only carriages to reduce sexual assault on trains as some other foreign countries do, and Corbyn said that if elected Labour would consider holding a consultation on the subject. I remember reading this baffled as everyone talked about the bullshit headline rather than the actuality of what happened and realising this was just how it was gonna be.
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