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The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012

These are great, thanks. Completely forgot that Kim was a youtube person.

Another question, spurred by comments about camera equipment in the fed thread:

When was the last time a wrestling match was shot on film? I think it's Cena/Rock, but if it's not what would it be?

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Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

The D in Detroit posted:

These are great, thanks. Completely forgot that Kim was a youtube person.

Another question, spurred by comments about camera equipment in the fed thread:

When was the last time a wrestling match was shot on film? I think it's Cena/Rock, but if it's not what would it be?

The last one I remember is Darby Allin and Sting vs Ricky Starks and Brian Cage in AEW. It was a couple years ago

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Kosmo Gallion posted:

Why did Cody Hall never get a look in WWE?

I wrestled in a promotion that Cody Hall worked in once, it's because he's a tremendously talentless moron with a awful personality.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

ItohRespectArmy posted:

I wrestled in a promotion that Cody Hall worked in once, it's because he's a tremendously talentless moron with a awful personality.

The question was why DIDN'T he get a shot with WWE.

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!
Fun Shoe
Howdy folks. Was looking to get a book (or books) that has a ton of information about Wrestling Guys. the more obscure/funny/carny/old, the better. I saw this book on the Uncle Elmer wikipedia:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/112007614069

...and that's exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. Almost like a reference book for all the gimmicks that there have been going way back. Is there something like this?

Erin M. Fiasco
Mar 21, 2013

Nothing's better than postin' in the morning!



It's very out of date and was absolutely packed with weird misinformation even when it was current, but I owe a lot to The Complete Idiot's Guide To Pro Wrestling by Lou Albano and Bert Sugar. It might be fun to seek out a copy and read through it.

Erin M. Fiasco fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 13, 2024

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

History Comes Inside! posted:

Things he has in common with his dad:

Tall
Perenial gently caress-up

fyp

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

The D in Detroit posted:

These are great, thanks. Completely forgot that Kim was a youtube person.

If you don't mind podcasts, The Lapsed Fan and Behind The Sheets go through wrestling history with exhaustive detail. Both are also very annoying in their own specialised ways (BTS less so).

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

MassRafTer posted:

The question was why DIDN'T he get a shot with WWE.

lol

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Erin M. Fiasco posted:

It's very out of date and was absolutely packed with weird misinformation even when it was current, but I owe a lot to The Complete Idiot's Guide To Pro Wrestling by Lou Albano and Burt Ward. It might be fun to seek out a copy and read through it.

All I remember hearing about that book was how it claims the Rock's real name is Rocky Melvin.

Erin M. Fiasco
Mar 21, 2013

Nothing's better than postin' in the morning!



Gavok posted:

All I remember hearing about that book was how it claims the Rock's real name is Rocky Melvin.

It sure does! It's hilarious. It's packed full of absolutely baffling mistakes like that, but it's also the reason I know who Antonino Rocca is, and I'm sure it's only funnier now that even more stuff covered in it is common knowledge.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

Howdy folks. Was looking to get a book (or books) that has a ton of information about Wrestling Guys. the more obscure/funny/carny/old, the better. I saw this book on the Uncle Elmer wikipedia:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/112007614069

...and that's exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. Almost like a reference book for all the gimmicks that there have been going way back. Is there something like this?

A Canadian indy vet named Vance Nevada has done some books about the Canadian indies and he just put a new one out recently. I don't know anyone who had read them, but they exist.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

CommonShore posted:

A Canadian indy vet named Vance Nevada has done some books about the Canadian indies and he just put a new one out recently. I don't know anyone who had read them, but they exist.

I feel like someone made vance nevada the centerpiece of their ewr thread years and years ago

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Erin M. Fiasco posted:

It's very out of date and was absolutely packed with weird misinformation even when it was current, but I owe a lot to The Complete Idiot's Guide To Pro Wrestling by Lou Albano and Burt Ward. It might be fun to seek out a copy and read through it.

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-c...edition=3496850

neoaxd
Nov 13, 2004

DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

Howdy folks. Was looking to get a book (or books) that has a ton of information about Wrestling Guys. the more obscure/funny/carny/old, the better. I saw this book on the Uncle Elmer wikipedia:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/112007614069

...and that's exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. Almost like a reference book for all the gimmicks that there have been going way back. Is there something like this?

https://ecwpress.com/products/mad-dog

https://www.amazon.ca/Mad-Dogs-Midgets-Screw-Jobs/dp/1770410945

I own these, they're pretty good.

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!
Fun Shoe
excellent. please keep em coming if you think of any. He'd love to know about "Zeppelin" McTugg, the 450lb strongman/carnie/wrestler that dominated in Minnesota in the 30s. or poo poo like that y'know

neoaxd
Nov 13, 2004

DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

excellent. please keep em coming if you think of any. He'd love to know about "Zeppelin" McTugg, the 450lb strongman/carnie/wrestler that dominated in Minnesota in the 30s. or poo poo like that y'know

I haven't read these, but I've heard good things about them:

https://www.amazon.ca/Eighth-Wonder-World-Story-Andr%C3%A9/dp/1770414665

https://www.amazon.ca/Blood-Fire-Un...770415807&psc=1

https://www.amazon.ca/Brody-Triumph...550227602&psc=1

Erin M. Fiasco
Mar 21, 2013

Nothing's better than postin' in the morning!



It's limited in scope, obviously, but the WWE Encyclopedia is very thorough and goes through absolutely everyone who has been part of the company including some extremely weird gimmicks. The first edition was able to go into more detail as they had fewer wrestlers to cover at that point - I looked at a modern edition and it just feels overly stuffed and a lot of the fun weirdo entries were cut down or had their pictures removed. It's another fun read.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

MassRafTer posted:

The question was why DIDN'T he get a shot with WWE.
Thank you for saying what we all were thinking

I mean repeat DUIs are not disqualifying and I imagine Cody Hall's sins were less detrimental to society than that

Cody Hall probably would have had a better run than Manu

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


The main thing I remember in terms of Cody Hall is Nash saying in an interview that his son thought wrestling was stupid, and Nash told him, "Yeah, pretty much. But if you ever come around and want to make guaranteed bank, go find Cody Hall and call up Vince."

The Grey
Mar 2, 2004

What happened to ZZ from Tough Enough?

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

The Grey posted:

What happened to ZZ from Tough Enough?

Made it to the Top

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013

Captain Foo posted:

I feel like someone made vance nevada the centerpiece of their ewr thread years and years ago

This was LAW. It's an absolutely amazing EWR diary. I can dig it up if anybody wants to read it.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Kosmo Gallion posted:

This was LAW. It's an absolutely amazing EWR diary. I can dig it up if anybody wants to read it.

I would love to read this again 🙏

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
The Last Alliance of Wrestling - https://www.ewbattleground.com/topic/342-the-last-alliance-of-wrestling/

Here are my other two favourites although these are more comedic:

F.U.S.E. - https://www.ewbattleground.com/topic/36053-florida-ultimate-sports-entertainment/

Golden Boy - https://www.ewbattleground.com/topic/932-golden-boy-wrestling/


You may need an account to access them.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

The Grey posted:

What happened to ZZ from Tough Enough?

he's a 'wildlife' guy who has a small swamp tours company in thibodaux, louisiana. i can't remember but i think he was into that stuff with gators and whatnot back during tough enough. his dick and rear end was bit off.

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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Sometimes I think the beginning of me hating WWE was actually Tough Enough Season 2 when they passed over my boy Jake for Jackie Gayda, the world's least interesting woman (though I am sure Vince and Kevin were excited to meet her)

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Cavauro posted:

he's a 'wildlife' guy who has a small swamp tours company in thibodaux, louisiana. i can't remember but i think he was into that stuff with gators and whatnot back during tough enough. his dick and rear end was bit off.

No no that was what he did to the gator. Man I miss fried alligator. Better than chicken

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

When WWF was souring on Kerry Von Erich, did he drop down the card on TV at all or just stop being booked for tapings entirely? I feel like as a kid, I never saw any of his decline. He was a big star, and then he's off TV a while, and then he's dead.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Nehru the Damaja posted:

When WWF was souring on Kerry Von Erich, did he drop down the card on TV at all or just stop being booked for tapings entirely? I feel like as a kid, I never saw any of his decline. He was a big star, and then he's off TV a while, and then he's dead.

he dropped the ic title, started being relegated to just wrestling challenge then just house shows, then just wasn't renewed.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Nehru the Damaja posted:

When WWF was souring on Kerry Von Erich, did he drop down the card on TV at all or just stop being booked for tapings entirely? I feel like as a kid, I never saw any of his decline. He was a big star, and then he's off TV a while, and then he's dead.

As I recall Kerry was always upper mid card/lower upper card, even being one of Flair's opponents and then he was squashed by the Undertaker and then he slid down the card after that. He took time off for his divorce - I think - so naturally Vince punished him so he was out there against Skinner and never really climbed back up and bounced before his Summerslam match against Papa Shango.

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
Who was the guy back in 2019/2020 complaining about Marko Stunt and Orange Cassidy being offered AEW contracts despite the fact they weren't 'real' wrestlers? He was a Triple H clone that worked for an independent. He had a single name which I thought was Wardlow when Wardlow debuted but it's obviously not him. It's not Alex Hammerstone either.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Kosmo Gallion posted:

Who was the guy back in 2019/2020 complaining about Marko Stunt and Orange Cassidy being offered AEW contracts despite the fact they weren't 'real' wrestlers? He was a Triple H clone that worked for an independent. He had a single name which I thought was Wardlow when Wardlow debuted but it's obviously not him. It's not Alex Hammerstone either.

Braun?

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
No this dude was an indy guy. Might have wrestled for MLW? His name might have been Gunnar, but that just brings up results for another dingus, Jackson Ryker.

E: Gunner Miller

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Imagine being dumb enough to think Orange Cassidy was not a real wrestler

Marko Stunt is good too of course but at least he has the "what is going on" factor when you first see him

Joey McChrist
Aug 8, 2005

STING 64 posted:

he dropped the ic title, started being relegated to just wrestling challenge then just house shows, then just wasn't renewed.

yeah i remember him being perpetually around the midcard around that time then being in the opening match for a hot minute after dropping it, then he was gone entirely before he died.

lots of schoolyard rumors about him being the new ultimate warrior then dying and them having to bring the old one back

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
What are Masato Tanaka's best matches? I wasn't around for his ECW run, heard the series with Mike Awesome was great. I mostly got into him in his later years, being amazed at his capacity to absorb punishment lol. I imagine he was even better in his prime.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Lily Catts posted:

What are Masato Tanaka's best matches? I wasn't around for his ECW run, heard the series with Mike Awesome was great. I mostly got into him in his later years, being amazed at his capacity to absorb punishment lol. I imagine he was even better in his prime.

He had a match with Balls at Hardcore Heaven 2000 that is insanely brutal but also surprisingly technically sound in between the crazy poo poo.

The 3 way with Taz and Awesome is also good.

Choom Gangster
Oct 29, 2006

Lily Catts posted:

What are Masato Tanaka's best matches? I wasn't around for his ECW run, heard the series with Mike Awesome was great. I mostly got into him in his later years, being amazed at his capacity to absorb punishment lol. I imagine he was even better in his prime.

His matches with awesome are just that, they are all super entertaining. His career is loving prolific tho and he's still cranking out good ones, the match he recently had with Mohammed Yone in NOAH sticks out to me, also the stiff one he just had with Bryan Keith up in Seattle at Defy, hell he had a super fun three way with Baliyan Akki (hella underrated) and Emi Sakura in Gatoh Move. I'd just start now tbh, he has so many recent great matches in NOAH and ZERO1 that you'll be busy for a while.

Choom Gangster fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Mar 18, 2024

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Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!

Lily Catts posted:

What are Masato Tanaka's best matches? I wasn't around for his ECW run, heard the series with Mike Awesome was great. I mostly got into him in his later years, being amazed at his capacity to absorb punishment lol. I imagine he was even better in his prime.

His run in NJPW from 2009 to 2012 had a good few singles matches.

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