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There's also something a little funny and a little just mean about people missing Toinette's actual role which is deeply rooted in her being a woman and instead going "oh it's a race thing. It's about her race" Bella's first true romantic relationship where they both grow and learn from each other is with a woman? Must be a magical negro thing.
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Gumball Gumption posted:There's also something a little funny and a little just mean about people missing Toinette's actual role which is deeply rooted in her being a woman and instead going "oh it's a race thing. It's about her race" Bella's first true romantic relationship where they both grow and learn from each other is with a woman? Must be a magical negro thing. Hell yes, exactly this Read the shooting script: https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Poor-Things-Read-The-Screenplay.pdf Toinette doesn't lecture Bella about anything. She says "I'm a socialist - we want to make the world better", Bella says "Rad, me too" and the rest of their interactions are just talking and being nice to each other She's literally the first and only character in the movie that interacts with Bella as a friend and not a transaction (and sure it's underwritten but we're 2/3rds into a nearly 2.5 hour movie at this point, they need to wrap it up)
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Hell yes, exactly this yeah it seems like the point is that she's the first person that sees Bella as anything other than an Oddity. even the old lady on the ship and her catty gay best friend like spending time with Bella because she's different and entertaining to be around as a result. it's like graduating from High School and meeting people in the "real world" that aren't immediately aware of all this baggage you've had with you since your childhood. All of a sudden people see you as You, the person you are in that moment, and not the person you were at all these other times before that.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Godwin is the closest we get to seeing a truly happy character in the movie (other than Bella), because he basically understands the cycle of suffering but cannot himself escape it Chill German granny was having a whale of a time going around the world with her gay best friend.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Chill German granny was having a whale of a time going around the world with her gay best friend. You make a fair point. Though we don't really get to know much about her beyond that she likes philosophy and is the sort of person who is excited about being threatened to be thrown overboard She'd be a C-SPAM poster
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Hell yes, exactly this Also I've got to be honest I don't think you can consider a character an actual magical negro trope without them being magical or otherwise having another oversized trait that makes them an other. That's the problem with the whole trope. It's taking black characters and being superficially kind to them while also keeping them as others who exist in service of white people. Both Harry and Toinette are insiders who are exposing Bella to the world, not others who are exposing her to secret knowledge only known by the others. The movie is almost idiotic in how loud it is about what it is about while being an allegory. They're hitting you over the head when Bella asks why people don't just have sex all the time and then goes on a guided tour of philosophy.
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You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
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Al! posted:the complete inability for americans to recognize that the events of a movie arent supposed to be literal ftw
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have we really dug into the science of what animates bella because i have *unrolls giant scroll that falls to the ground* problems
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Al! posted:the complete inability for americans to recognize that the events of a movie arent supposed to be literal ftw Americans’ entire understanding of the world is based on movies and other media consumption. Movies must be an accurate and factual recounting of events. They are so truthful that movies will change reality to match.
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Bar Crow posted:Americans’ entire understanding of the world is based on movies and other media consumption. Movies must be an accurate and factual recounting of events. They are so truthful that movies will change reality to match. Trump ftw
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:i think some people watch animation because they like how the "pre-decided acting" looks visually and that's totally fair, but you still aren't gaining much from the performance by listening to the original audio you can't understand
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Bar Crow posted:Americans’ entire understanding of the world is based on movies and other media consumption. Movies must be an accurate and factual recounting of events. They are so truthful that movies will change reality to match. https://twitter.com/wgdunlop/status/1767603551633650037 https://twitter.com/ChowdahHill/status/1765320779388932356
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Bar Crow posted:Americans’ entire understanding of the world is based on movies and other media consumption. Movies must be an accurate and factual recounting of events. They are so truthful that movies will change reality to match. television is reality and reality is less than television
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Dour Things
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mods please change the thread title to Poop Things
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/wgdunlop/status/1767603551633650037 I've been saying for years we need to kill the Disney adults before they kill us
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indigi posted:but you still aren't gaining much from the performance by listening to the original audio you can't understand e: I think in order for this to be true, the viewing experience would have to basically be "the same" for an audience whether they are watching the show with the original vocal audio track with subtitles OR a version of the show that is cut to have no vocal audio track but does have subtitles. if there is truly nothing gained by listening to the original performance, the experience of doing these two things should leave someone with basically the same impression of the show. Pepe Silvia Browne has issued a correction as of 19:26 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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it's the dick head helmet from space balls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Navy_Mk_II_talker_helmet
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im with the good guys i say as i authorize a mission to bomb a wedding
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:i don't think it's fair to call those characters "magical negroes" in a story where everyone is a storybook archetype Speaking of Magical Negros, the American Society of Magical Negros is out in theaters and is flopping hard with minority posters. https://twitter.com/xraygirl_/status/1768372538017542291?t=FNxeXHmTEI6QUMWG-BjMLw&s=19 I was intrigued, but the plot is about a magical negro giving up his magic for the love of a mostly white woman and that's... Hoo boy... That's not great.
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People with a very basic sense of media literacy, like English 101 level, get caught up in things like "every character must be 3 dimensional" and do not recognize that the craft of creating art is as much about breaking rules as learning them, once you've mastered those things and have progressed as an artist.
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KirbyKhan posted:Speaking of Magical Negros, the American Society of Magical Negros is out in theaters and is flopping hard with minority posters. 
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KirbyKhan posted:Speaking of Magical Negros, the American Society of Magical Negros is out in theaters and is flopping hard with minority posters. That poor actor can't seem to star in a successful movie or as a non-wizard, huh?
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Roger prepares to erase magically Aren's memories of all that happened. However, it doesn't work; the magic is fading. Aren has sparked rebellion among Society members, e.g., a farm hand who refuses to help a white farmer, and an executive who was earlier touching a white executive's crotch, but now insists his own crotch be touched too. Aren notes Lizzie has made it back to Los Angeles; he finds her and they reconcile. However, in the last scene, Lizzie goes into a hairstylist and takes a secret entrance to visit her own Society: "SOSWAG", or "Society of Supportive Wives and Girlfriends".
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David Alan Grier is box office poison
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Mr Hootington posted:Roger prepares to erase magically Aren's memories of all that happened. However, it doesn't work; the magic is fading. Aren has sparked rebellion among Society members, e.g., a farm hand who refuses to help a white farmer, and an executive who was earlier touching a white executive's crotch, but now insists his own crotch be touched too. good god
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Mr Hootington posted:Roger prepares to erase magically Aren's memories of all that happened. However, it doesn't work; the magic is fading. Aren has sparked rebellion among Society members, e.g., a farm hand who refuses to help a white farmer, and an executive who was earlier touching a white executive's crotch, but now insists his own crotch be touched too. lol cool
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Like Barbie, it sounds like a good idea for a 5 minute sketch that did not need to be fleshed out into a 90 minute film
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:Like Barbie, it sounds like a good idea for a 5 minute sketch that did not need to be fleshed out into a 90 minute film Somewhere in NYC, Lorne Michaels feels a great disturbance in the world, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
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Mr Hootington posted:Roger prepares to erase magically Aren's memories of all that happened. However, it doesn't work; the magic is fading. Aren has sparked rebellion among Society members, e.g., a farm hand who refuses to help a white farmer, and an executive who was earlier touching a white executive's crotch, but now insists his own crotch be touched too. what in gods name
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Real Mean Queen posted:Like what the gently caress dude just make a movie about something else, it doesn't have to be about something you don't want to make a movie about This. Absolutely this. It's bonkers.
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ASOMN is actually a feminist movie in disguise
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Nonsense posted:David Alan Grier is box office poison the only thing he has in common with carrot top
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is this anything......??? [sacha baron harkonnen] ah-maii NEPHEWwwwwwwww
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indigi posted:and that's totally fair, but you still aren't gaining much from the performance by listening to the original audio you can't understand shut the gently caress up
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