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the hosed up thing is that they're both having a good time
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Mar 18, 2024 14:33
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D&D has been a copy of a copy of a copy of itself for a while now, separate from any sort of progenitor source material or genre emulation or context. D&D is shaped like itself, and the CR fandom is a prime example of the phenomenon
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Mar 18, 2024 14:37
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You don’t have to like CR to enjoy TTRPGs any more than you have to like the NBA to enjoy playing pickup basketball at your local park.
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Mar 18, 2024 14:57
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It feels like there are a couple of ways Daggerheart could end up going: - They play it on stream regularly and strip away anything that gets in the way of making successful AP streams. We end up with something quite unique because I don't think anyone has made a game where being stream-friendly is the main goal - They play it on stream regularly and ignore all the rules that get in the way of making a successful stream, just like they do with 5E. All those rules stay in the game anyway because that's just how RPGs are made, gotta have something for everyone Unfortunately it currently looks a lot closer to option 2 right now but I'm not going to write it off just yet. I have no idea how they're going to get useful playtest feedback though, that's one area where cultivating a parasocial fan base won't help one bit.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:01
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An interesting point I found in my Twitter dive I mentioned before: https://twitter.com/AdamBlumenau/status/1768261724665254102 https://twitter.com/AdamBlumenau/status/1768262357740843315 Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 15:02
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Snooty storygamerposting about how someone is only enjoying tradgames because they're stupid or ignorant or are only playing it because it's popular is always hilarious.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:31
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Tarnop posted:I don't think anyone has made a game where being stream-friendly is the main goal I was under the impression that this was a stated goal for “Quest”. But I haven’t heard any information that suggests this was successful in the least.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:41
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Megazver posted:Snooty storygamerposting about how someone is only enjoying tradgames because they're stupid or ignorant or are only playing it because it's popular is always hilarious. As a self-proclaimed game snob, I finished running a 5e game a few months ago and recently started playing through a Curse of Straad campaign. As much fun as it is to argue about 5e being the devil and such, at the end of the day, I like my friends and enjoy playing with them, and adding friction to the already difficult task of organizing adults lives around a weekend game is rarely worth it. (I also got a group to start an Eternal Lies game that they are really digging, so, you know, persistence pays off!)
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Mar 18, 2024 16:20
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Megazver posted:Snooty storygamerposting about how someone is only enjoying tradgames because they're stupid or ignorant or are only playing it because it's popular is always hilarious. i think you're inventing people to post about
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Mar 18, 2024 16:23
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Wanting to ditch initiative to avoid an exciting duel between a PC and NPC having its momentum ruined by a 5 minute delay between swings is not purely a streaming goal.
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hyphz posted:Wanting to ditch initiative to avoid an exciting duel between a PC and NPC having its momentum ruined by a 5 minute delay between swings is not purely a streaming goal. Yup gradenko_2000 posted:it's kinda funny that we're having to relitigate PBTA-style initiative, except with the added 2024 conspiracism that this was only done in order to allow the group to keep handing initiative to a "star player", because Daggerheart is going to be used for shows.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:28
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Splicer posted:DTAS is about how ability scores in D&D 3.x+ (and related systems) interfere with the other better options already in the game. Everything they theoretically bring to the table is already covered by other existing character creation package deals and customisation options. Hence death to ability scores - just put them out of our misery and we can almost immediately move on. Oh, then I used the DTAS term in the way I intended to mean it, because that's what I meant.
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Mar 18, 2024 16:49
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Ominous Jazz posted:the hosed up thing is that they're both having a good time That's the opposite of hosed up!
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Lemon-Lime posted:Can anyone think of games with dice trick-taking/pool manipulation/poker dice mechanics like the ones found in Kamigakari (which has you roll a d6 Spirit pool at the start of each session, which can then be either swapped with d6 from skill rolls to get the result you want, or used in specific combinations to pay power activation costs, meaning it's in your interest to frequently swap dice into your Spirit pool to get odds/evens/doubles/steps/specific values based on what powers you want to use) or the Japanese Dark Souls RPG (which gives you a Stamina pool that has to be split between Action dice rolled at the start of your turn and Reaction dice kept in reserve to dodge/parry, with actions costing a minimum die value/a number of dice/any doubles)? Shadowrun second edition has dice pools like you mentioned. They mostly used for augmenting your offense, defense, or to try the rare action of dodging bullets.
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Another interesting Twitter thread on Daggerheart: https://twitter.com/HeadOfTheGoat/status/1768336101700206753
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I’m not making an X account to read it
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whydirt posted:I’m not making an X account to read it If you want the teal deer version: https://twitter.com/HeadOfTheGoat/status/1768403685007040522
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Mar 18, 2024 20:32
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Sounds like it’s a City Of Mist-alike attempt to get the best of two games while ignoring the tradeoffs involved in the designs.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:35
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I don't think it sounds that bad
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Silver2195 posted:Another interesting Twitter thread on Daggerheart: I’m het up about some unrelated stuff, so I’ll try to be as charitable as possible here. For someone whose conclusions I largely agree with, I must say, I’ve never been so irritated by a person’s tone before.
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DalaranJ posted:I’m het up about some unrelated stuff, so I’ll try to be as charitable as possible here. based on their website in the twitter profile (and the ideas in the thread itself), this is an OSR person so if you think some takes are weird, they're probably coming from that particular perspective Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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DalaranJ posted:I’m het up about some unrelated stuff, so I’ll try to be as charitable as possible here. Seems fine to me fwiw. It's a really good close reading, and goddam i really don't want to play this lol.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:30
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It was irritating to read, but that was entirely because of the decision to present a long essay in the form of a linked series of 100 tweets.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:33
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Covok posted:Anyone else ever feel weird being in TRPGs nowadays and just not giving a single gently caress about Critical Role? on the flip side, the friend of mine who spent years asking me to get into critical role has never once in his entire life even touched a d20 before
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Mar 18, 2024 22:00
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Ominous Jazz posted:I don't think it sounds that bad Daggerheart isn't that bad at all. It's not the second coming, but it doesn't suck either. It's a good game with some interesting ideas, but I don't think I'll run it.
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Sometimes a "tension" between two mechanics is actually the player having to make a choice. In Blades in the Dark there's a "tension" between going as hard as you can during heists, and doing stuff on your downtime actions in between. Pushing yourself to the limit on a heist improves your odds of success and can net you more XP (if you're making a lot of moves from risky positions) but builds up stress that has to be purged during the downtime phase. Stress purging takes up your downtime actions, so you don't get to dive into all the cool base building and long term projects with the rest of the team. But that's what being a super criminal is like. You're playing someone who can't just be normal in your offtime, you're stuck in a boom-bust cycle of covert operations, recovering from covert operations by indulging your vices, and getting excited for the next covert operation.
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Please I'm begging you, if you're posting a tweet that's more than one tweet, don't. Either run it through one of those threading apps or just paste the words or something. Massive tweet essays have gone from virtually unreadable to literally unreadable if you're not logged in.
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mellonbread posted:Sometimes a "tension" between two mechanics is actually the player having to make a choice.
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Silver2195 posted:If you want the teal deer version: I disagree strongly with the idea that it codifies anything about Apocalypse World's GMing rules. It presents them as a wooly grab bag of options that you should discard if reading them makes you feel bad whydirt posted:I’m not making an X account to read it https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1768336101700206753.html
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Tarnop posted:I disagree strongly with the idea that it codifies anything about Apocalypse World's GMing rules. It presents them as a wooly grab bag of options that you should discard if reading them makes you feel bad This makes me irrationally angry. The whole point about the AW GM rules is that they're not optional.
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That thread would be a quarter as long if the author didn't go: - Ooh here's a new word, wonder what that could be? Maybe it's X or Y or Z - Oh I actually read a page or two ahead and it turns out it's Y, wow I really thought it could have been X or Z For 3 out of every 4 tweets. At least I had the decency to read the whole book before I hit post  e: the "who the gently caress is this actually for" section at the end is good Tarnop fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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this game is dumb. making a critical role rpg is dumb. what we actually need is an Oglaf rpg
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roll Wherewithal to solve her puzzle vagina
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every RPG is an Oglaf RPG if you’re horny enough
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EightFlyingCars posted:this game is dumb. making a critical role rpg is dumb. what we actually need is an Oglaf rpg Two stats, honor and other honor
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After the weird voight-kampff micro rpg thing, I don’t even know what I want in ttrpgs anymore. The communities of each kind of rpg are awful, I’m too old to care about voice actors playing a game together, and I’m boring. Guess I’ll just go play Strategos or Kriegspiel and wax philosophically about the emotion of war.
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PuttyKnife posted:After the weird voight-kampff micro rpg thing, I don’t even know what I want in ttrpgs anymore. The communities of each kind of rpg are awful, I’m too old to care about voice actors playing a game together, and I’m boring.
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Nessus posted:Have you considered getting really into a niche aspect of WW2?
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's kinda funny that we're having to relitigate PBTA-style initiative, except with the added 2024 conspiracism that this was only done in order to allow the group to keep handing initiative to a "star player", because Daggerheart is going to be used for shows. Apocalypse World lays out a nice "what to do in case of PvP" section, which takes very little imagination to apply to any kind of high-stakes scenario: quote:First of all, emphasize that we have rules for this and we're going to follow them. When it turns to PC vs PC, everybody wants to start shouting all at once and race to be the first to roll their dice, and that's no good. And honestly that's really the form the game takes all the time, just when it's not as high a stakes situation you don't as dlilgently ask people explicitly if they just want to chill while somebody else takes the lead.
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