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Pantheon: I'm no longer interested in this MMO.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 16:30 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 23:08 |
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Jokes on you, I'm doubling my excitement to compensate for your lack of it.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 22:53 |
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I said come in! posted:Wait a minute, the graphics got seriously downgraded lol. Pantheon looks significant worse now in its current build compared to 7 years ago, how does that happen lmao. I'm no longer interested in this MMO. Yeah I wanna say when they revealed the WoW-ish graphics overhaul everyone was saying it looked worse than what they'd originally showed.
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# ? Mar 3, 2024 18:20 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:Yeah I wanna say when they revealed the WoW-ish graphics overhaul everyone was saying it looked worse than what they'd originally showed. Yep the original looked great. This is just really ugly and unappealing.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 02:26 |
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The official reason is the old graphical style was entirely impossible to scale up to get the game out in a timely manner. Luckily they took care of it a decade into development instead of wasting an embarrassing amount of time and money on unusable assets. Also the REALLY early videos were just bought Unity store assets, I think Faerthale was the first zone they built from scratch, and that took them like 2 years to make part of one zone.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 06:48 |
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PrinnySquad posted:The official reason is the old graphical style was entirely impossible to scale up to get the game out in a timely manner. Luckily they took care of it a decade into development instead of wasting an embarrassing amount of time and money on unusable assets. Also the REALLY early videos were just bought Unity store assets, I think Faerthale was the first zone they built from scratch, and that took them like 2 years to make part of one zone. What makes it so baffling - it was clear they were using bought assets and it still looked better than when they WoWified the game.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 14:14 |
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Yes, but aren't Unity store assets created by professionals?
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 16:31 |
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So basically the impression I am getting is that the devs really don't have the experience to deliver the game they have promised they would. I am very glad I never crowdfunded this.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 17:18 |
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I said come in! posted:So basically the impression I am getting is that the devs really don't have the experience to deliver the game they have promised they would. I am very glad I never crowdfunded this. It is 100% this, they have way too much on their plate and nowhere near the experience to know how to manage it.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 18:39 |
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I said come in! posted:So basically the impression I am getting is that the devs really don't have the experience to deliver the game they have promised they would. I am very glad I never crowdfunded this. how are they supposed to learn if you don't give them any funding
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 19:20 |
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The visual NDA is lifted and disappointment across their social media platforms is rolling in. https://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/1bh47kc/some_pics/
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 00:06 |
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PrinnySquad posted:The visual NDA is lifted and disappointment across their social media platforms is rolling in. standing normally
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 00:12 |
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The folks who were previously Pantheon Plus now uploading gameplay streams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mprdBx6cc6A
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 02:44 |
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PrinnySquad posted:The folks who were previously Pantheon Plus now uploading gameplay streams. jesus, backers really got taken for a ride with this one.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 05:03 |
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EARLY DAYS
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 05:16 |
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I like the incessant ambient bird chirping that doesn’t fit the vibe of an undead area whatsoever.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 12:15 |
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Ehud posted:I like the incessant ambient bird chirping that doesn’t fit the vibe of an undead area whatsoever. 10 years isn't enough time to partition a zone out for environmental details, give them another 3 years to sort that out.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 13:48 |
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lmfao, in general, at this project, still
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 19:05 |
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https://www.pantheonmmo.com/newsletter/_2024/march/ "We are thrilled to announce that Season 1 of Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen has been an overwhelming success! The player count exceeded our expectations and the testing data we’ve gathered has been invaluable. We’ve seen a lot of new players come in to test out the game, and some who stay logged in for 24 hours or more. We are extremely pleased to see Pantheon being received like this and we can’t thank you enough for your support and participation." somebody did a 24 hour session in pantheon
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 21:53 |
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Does the game have an auto logout after like 1 hour, or will that be a launch feature?
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# ? Mar 21, 2024 22:10 |
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Ehud posted:
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 05:46 |
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smiling giraffe posted:Yes that was Zaide, Enjoy: https://m.twitch.tv/zaidegod MMO poopsocking for 24 hours is insane in any game. MMO poopsocking for 24 hours in a game that has like 2 zones and is still missing many core mechanics is incomprehensible.
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 13:03 |
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there's this one megaloser on the Pantheon subreddit who has been making these, like, lore journey videos about the half-hearted generic world they crapped out and they're some of the saddest loving things. just little snippets of derivative pseudo-lore about the setting, which nobody has ever thought about for longer than it took to get it up on the relevant section of the website, as the camera pans across something that looks like the beta for a mobile gacha MMO called Dragons Hearts Arisen: The Return of the Fallen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMAMxUf7m4 it's just so bad
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 16:54 |
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Frog Act posted:there's this one megaloser on the Pantheon subreddit who has been making these, like, lore journey videos about the half-hearted generic world they crapped out and they're some of the saddest loving things. just little snippets of derivative pseudo-lore about the setting, which nobody has ever thought about for longer than it took to get it up on the relevant section of the website, as the camera pans across something that looks like the beta for a mobile gacha MMO called Dragons Hearts Arisen: The Return of the Fallen thanks i'm gonna watch this tonight with my wife
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 19:40 |
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Frog Act posted:there's this one megaloser on the Pantheon subreddit who has been making these, like, lore journey videos about the half-hearted generic world they crapped out and they're some of the saddest loving things. just little snippets of derivative pseudo-lore about the setting, which nobody has ever thought about for longer than it took to get it up on the relevant section of the website, as the camera pans across something that looks like the beta for a mobile gacha MMO called Dragons Hearts Arisen: The Return of the Fallen this is so bizarre, why would anyone spend the time to do this
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 15:26 |
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Kaysette posted:this is so bizarre, why would anyone spend the time to do this Setting aside a possible genuine interest and passion for Pantheon (lol), one of the paths to success on YouTube is being an early content creator for a MMO or live-service game and hoping it becomes a big hit. If it does and the community balloons, then you're already there with an established presence. If your content is decent then you have a leg-up on the johnny-come-lately's who's output will be compared to yours, hopefully unfavorably for them. Even in the small-scale, that channel demonstrates this. He's been doing lots of videos on lots of different MMOs and single-player RPGs, but most of them languish at less than a hundred views...except his Pantheon-related ones which consistently hit over a thousand. One video on the art style change a few months ago even broke 10k.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 16:09 |
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They posted a video about upcoming changes for season 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnJSIeEBMw4 And someone summarized everything succinctly in a Reddit thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/1bpfctw/dev_qa_preparations_for_season_2_text_summary_in/ Summoner went from coming real soon to back on no current timeline, but more interestingly: quote:Team is no longer using Hudini Several years ago this was hailed as a bigdeal for them to start using this particular tool for terrain generation to get the game out faster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_koon-iK72k And now it's just another case of the team having to scrap 3ish years of whatever it was they were doing. Making one zone sure takes a while when you redo it half a dozen times with a different toolbox each time.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 01:16 |
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here's the worst video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWkWjIp8O9o he talks about pantheon while sitting in a castle of pizza boxes and soda cans edit: nm don't watch this video it's not even accidentally entertaining Ehud fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 1, 2024 |
# ? Apr 1, 2024 18:03 |
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Sometimes Narc is actually pretty cool, but when he goes off about the latest crowdfunding scam MMO and how its going to in fact be good, I tune the gently caress out.
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 19:09 |
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quote:“We’ve spent just under $70,000 dollars on the development of Monsters & Memories (2020-2023),” developer Niche Worlds Cult revealed. https://massivelyop.com/2024/04/01/monster-memories-has-only-cost-70k-to-date-from-the-devs-pockets/
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# ? Apr 3, 2024 23:22 |
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PrinnySquad posted:https://massivelyop.com/2024/04/01/monster-memories-has-only-cost-70k-to-date-from-the-devs-pockets/ I've been keeping up to date with this for the past month and this looks very promising. The dev team are all volunteering for now, and theres something like a dozen of them. They aren't trying to reinvent the genre, they're just making a game very similar to classic era Everquest. You'll recognize a similar UI, similar item design (NO DROP, attack/delay, procs, etc.), zones, hailing, quest design, stuff like that. They stream a lot of their development, and do some very early build grouping gameplay. Its a very humble project and looks like they know exactly what they are doing (one of the primary developers worked on Everquest for a few expansions in the PoP, GoD era) and seem quite competent. Unlike Pantheon, they actually have gameplay to show at this stage of development. I've been watching gameplay videos at their channel at https://www.youtube.com/@MonstersMemories. You can watch development videos where they're making models or textures and poo poo if you are into that kind of stuff too.
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# ? Apr 4, 2024 14:37 |
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Ehud posted:here's the worst video That video is an April fools joke but I'd Agree Narc is really annoying
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 20:45 |
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Big news, it's possible to see at night now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOMduBHYYOM
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 17:10 |
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Oh hey I've not checked into the pantheon thread in a while... *5 pages later* I never thought I would say this, but this had a better shot when Brad McQuaid was still alive. Say what you will about The Vision (tm), I don't think Brad would of debased himself enough to try to turn the game into Tarkov. Man the Vanguard nostalgia is kicking back in again, so I did the once every other year lol at the emulator project and seen 5 people were logged in and the forums have been dead silent since 2022
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 19:41 |
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The vision tm seems to be much more alive with M&M. Which will be absolutely hilarious/depressing if that launches before Pantheon, in like 1/4 the dev time for 1/10th the budget (at least).
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 01:26 |
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M&M is being developed by a team and leadership that is actually competent. So I really have no doubt it will launch before Pantheon.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 04:14 |
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I said come in! posted:M&M is being developed by a team and leadership that is actually competent. So I really have no doubt it will launch before Pantheon. Agree. Their team is small and they all appear to know what they are doing. DeathSandwich posted:Man the Vanguard nostalgia is kicking back in again, so I did the once every other year lol at the emulator project and seen 5 people were logged in and the forums have been dead silent since 2022 It makes me sad. Vanguard was an absolutely enormous game, so trying to emulate it is still a huge undertaking. I wish they had a lot more people that could spend a lot more time on the project. Vanguard deserves it. Node fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Apr 26, 2024 |
# ? Apr 26, 2024 16:14 |
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DeathSandwich posted:Man the Vanguard nostalgia is kicking back in again, so I did the once every other year lol at the emulator project and seen 5 people were logged in and the forums have been dead silent since 2022 People have moved from forums to Discord. There are code and content updates several times a week so it's coming along.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 22:22 |
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Yeah their Discord is "fairly" active: https://discord.gg/jGm4X5AU If you haven't joined it already.
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:59 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 23:08 |
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PrinnySquad posted:The vision tm seems to be much more alive with M&M. Which will be absolutely hilarious/depressing if that launches before Pantheon, in like 1/4 the dev time for 1/10th the budget (at least). I had to do a double take when I started looking at this because it's ran by a former EQ developer that ran a series of EQ classic interviews with other former staff members. I watched one of his gameplay streams and it seems like he maybe learned some of the correct lessons from his time in the space. I'm digging the art style in the streams for this and they seem pretty responsive to the community. They are also avoiding VC and investor money and it's basically being developed as a passion project. It also sounds like they are skewing towards being more limited in scope and complexity and focusing in on that. Like McQuaid's "The Vision" but in the best possible way - like having a very solid idea of the a thing that is in your wheelhouse and (more importantly IMO) in your capability of making happen. The guy at the top seems extremely chill based on his streams but also extremely grounded. He knows what he wants but he also seems willing to listen to the people in his orbit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gGnWkKx3gg I'm interested, and here's hoping they have enough steam to make it to early access. I may try to get in on one of the weekend events and see what I can do with it. Edit: they also look like they are pretty good at streaming themselves working on the game and giving the community an idea of whats going on behind the scenes: https://www.youtube.com/@monstersmemories/featured DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 20:57 on May 4, 2024 |
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