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That's in the Stackpole and Thurston books before Twilight kicks off. You seem to have skipped a lot.
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The first dozen or so books have it towards the back. Double Blind is my most recent one with it.
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Ah perfect. I normally hit the notable battlemechs page and stop there. That's super useful, thanks
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ilmucche posted:Ok, so post clan jade falcon books, the ones with aidan pryde, what books have the story of Marthe taking over the Falcons? I think it's Bred for War and I Am Jade Falcon. Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:If it's a faked spreadsheet, whoever made it has been thinking smart - a lot of those 'Mech selections already have MechWarrior 4 3D models to leverage from, which IIRC was how a lot of the 'Mechs from previous Kickstarters got through the new art process relatively smoothly. Yeah I'm thinking it's legit, people at KerenskyCon have been saying some other stuff that's turned out to be true. Still sad there's no Nova Cat pack, Wendigo, Nova Cat B, Cave Lion, etc. Crazy Joe Wilson fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Supposedly future force pack lists have leaked for the next few years. No one can confirm authenticity, a bit early for April Fool's though. If this is legit, they've got to be kidding me where the gently caress is the FWL? Seriously we can't get any plastech Anzus, Julianos, anything? EDIT: I'd have much rather seen them actually get all five great houses in this bunch than double up on the Wolves, especially since we're already getting 3SL/new SLDF stuff later this year Holybat fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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LeschNyhan posted:It probably says a lot about me that my eyes lit up at the bug mech company pack. Same The protomech pack is an interesting and somewhat weird surprise. I love the idea of protomechs and actually just saw them on the tabletop for the first time over the weekend. I want em. Anyway, the way it’s listed is kind of weird. Does it mean it’ll be one of each of five different protomechs? Protomechs should be fielded in points of five units so it’d be pretty pointless to have one of each type, unless they for some reason think people will be buying five of the same box. Or will it be five of all five different types? That would make more sense gameplaywise, but then it’ll be 25 protomechs PLUS three mechs and that sounds like a huge box, on par with or bigger than something like the Clan Invasion box. Wonder what it’ll be.
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a cyborg mug posted:Same I thought that even the Clans used mixed protomech points in terms of the chassis in them? I'd imagine the Society definitely would since they have a lot smaller force availability. So this pack would be pretty solid a Trey of mechs, and two Uns of protomechs from what their organization scheme says on Sarna
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Holybat posted:If this is legit, they've got to be kidding me where the gently caress is the FWL? Seriously we can't get any plastech Anzus, Julianos, anything? To be fair most of that 3SL stuff is actually Republic tech. My guess is for FWL that they don't have those minis 3D rendered yet? Most of the Marik characters in Legends I/II were riding classic designs. But I can't imagine they're going to shaft FWL. That one Illician Lancers pack is all FWL designs already (Shockwave, Stalker, etc.). Juliano is too good not to become plastic.
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I'm the most boring nerd among nerds because the model I'm most excited for is Panther[jumping]
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Holybat posted:I thought that even the Clans used mixed protomech points in terms of the chassis in them? I'd imagine the Society definitely would since they have a lot smaller force availability. That would explain it then, I’m not super familiar with protomech lore  Although I’d likely want more than one of each protomech.Owlbear Camus posted:I'm the most boring nerd among nerds because the model I'm most excited for is Panther[jumping] Same just release a god drat Panther horde lance I’ll buy it
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Holybat posted:I thought that even the Clans used mixed protomech points in terms of the chassis in them? I'd imagine the Society definitely would since they have a lot smaller force availability.
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Holybat posted:If this is legit, they've got to be kidding me where the gently caress is the FWL? Seriously we can't get any plastech Anzus, Julianos, anything? 3055 units are slowly trickling in, and that's where the FWL really shines. Albatross for the new Shrapnel designs and also Tempest and Hercules, pls pls Randall  Anyways, priorities are difficult. Fleshing (plasticking?) out the main players for the 3 ilClan books seemed like it was top priority, but then again why not all the players in Empire Alone specifically?
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I'm gonna wager a guess and say it's because the FWL hasn't sold well as a faction, historically. And to be fair, someone somewhere in the FWL respectively makes almost all of the RecGuide Classics + many 3039 chassis, which leads to not being regarded as a faction missing many flavored units. It's very frustrating that the most popular factions with the most novels and support material are also the least interesting ones. The decision to have the Clans invade from the North, largely cutting the FWL and CC out of the big story, is a big bummer to me. But loads of the players I have met locally fuckin love them some FedCom, so I guess the demand is there. I don't understand it and it makes me feel like a crazy person but it is what is.
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FishFood posted:It's very frustrating that the most popular factions with the most novels and support material are also the least interesting ones. The decision to have the Clans invade from the North, largely cutting the FWL and CC out of the big story, is a big bummer to me. I think the original plan was to have the Clans come in from the South and finish off the Capellans, but someone at FASA wanted to keep the Cappies around, so they created the FRR instead to get eaten alive. Honestly, had the Clans invaded from the South I feel the FWL and CC would've just continued to get crapped on. It stinks for the Lyrans but the Clan Invasion is actually a good thing for the Combine from a meta-POV. Now when they get war crimey and crazy, the authors have powers nearby to beat the sh*t out of them for some cathartic release. Here's hoping the Ravens and Ghost Bears do just that.
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FishFood posted:But loads of the players I have met locally fuckin love them some FedCom, so I guess the demand is there. I don't understand it and it makes me feel like a crazy person but it is what is. They read some books when they were ten and aren't capable of looking at them through any other lens.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I'm gonna wager a guess and say it's because the FWL hasn't sold well as a faction, historically. And to be fair, someone somewhere in the FWL respectively makes almost all of the RecGuide Classics + many 3039 chassis, which leads to not being regarded as a faction missing many flavored units. Yeah I just really, really don't want CGL to move back into the vicious circle of "hmm nobody likes FWL or buys their stuff. we will therefore continue to ignore the faction in products at every opportunity" of the FASA/Fan pro eras I guess I'm still a bit sore at other line developers dragging the excuse of poor sales out years ago when they were doing things like releasing the House Marik handbook after the constant meta plot poo poo broke the FWL apart in the Jihad. EDIT: yeah Defiance Industries got it right. When like 80-90% of your books were about the Fedsuns or later Fedcom being the cool dudes it's no wonder that most players end up being Davion (with Steiner as an afterthought) Holybat fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Holybat posted:Yeah I just really, really don't want CGL to move back into the vicious circle of "hmm nobody likes FWL or buys their stuff. we will therefore continue to ignore the faction in products at every opportunity" of the FASA/Fan pro eras After Empire Alone came out and gave FWL a ton of content, I am sure they will get force packs. FWL has already gotten two novels the last two years, and is slated for another this year (Sequel to Hunting Season). Fed Suns and House Kurita have gotten... 1 novel total (Damocles Sanction). FWL will get their packs. As those spoiler lists were coming out, people were adding pages to them, so I bet they did not get the House Marik lists.
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Yup good points, I guess I'm just a shell shocked FWL fan who just is still adjusting to having page time outside of "Marik was hanging out" and even whole novels lol
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What was the second novel? Hunting Season, sure, but it's a big stretch to call Redemption Rites a FWL novel even though it takes place geospatially adjacent.
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I think part of the suffering is that when the FWL does get a unique design, it's either ugly as gently caress (like the Yeoman), someone else from another faction uses it in a novel so it gets associated with the wrong house (the Wraith), or is a knockoff of a design that already exists and doesn't improve on it in any way (the Havoc). I think I'd like the Yeoman more if it swapped out the 2x LRM-15/LRM-10 combos for 10x LRM-5s, and they gave it anti-air tracking.
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Everybody loves the Juliano though!
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4 ilClan books I meant, with the 5th on the way.PoptartsNinja posted:I think part of the suffering is that when the FWL does get a unique design, it's either ugly as gently caress (like the Yeoman), someone else from another faction uses it in a novel so it gets associated with the wrong house (the Wraith), or is a knockoff of a design that already exists and doesn't improve on it in any way (the Havoc). edit: the Sirocco's pretty good though quote:I think I'd like the Yeoman more if it swapped out the 2x LRM-15/LRM-10 combos for 10x LRM-5s, and they gave it anti-air tracking. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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General Battuta posted:Everybody loves the Juliano though! They drat well better, it was drawn by a Goon. Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:TRO3060 also had the astoundingly boring Eagle, a not-so-great use of the name of the FWL's totem animal (lmao) It's also the first ASF developed by the FWL, and a WarShip class they were developing at the same time, and the name of their loving Spacebuck. I can't imagine how annoying it must have been working at LCCC.
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"An Eagle protected by two squadrons of Eagles has launched DropShips full of Eagles to protect the Eagle Mint on Atreus"
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PoptartsNinja posted:"An Eagle protected by two squadrons of Eagles has launched DropShips full of Eagles to protect the Eagle Mint on Atreus" Okay but how many Eagles is this operation going to save us? It's their "smurf," the only way you'd be able to hold a conversation is if you have some kind of low-grade telepathy or a deep love for parenthesis.
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Defiance Industries posted:They read some books when they were ten and aren't capable of looking at them through any other lens. 
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General Battuta posted:Everybody loves the Juliano though! perfect pack for me would be the Xarbala FWL mechs, Juliano, Anzu, and Sarath. Since there isn't a fourth Xarbala FWL, it'd be cool to have a non-premium Eris thrown in to round the lance. Holybat fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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I need a recommendation for a dumb mech design to print and paint. It doesn't have to be good, but it should be silly or goofy or notoriously unreliable.
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Can't recommend a 'Mech, but I did find this:  Notably, this has way more non-Speedpaints in here this time. Which is great, because my Speedpaint-only test run of painting some Davion 'Mechs has not gone so well:  They really are like washes, with some specific physics in gathering towards the center of a panel. Too much overcorrection on trying to control where the Speedpaints run, and you risk uneven pigmentation from multiple dried layers. I had to salvage them with a drybrush some mixed in Kobold Brown to try and bring back some of the corners that got too saturated. 'Mechs are missing their metallic panels and accent colors and cockpit jeweling of course (not that the Syrtis Fusiliers in the top row need any). edit: 2nd merc paint set image Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:I think part of the suffering is that when the FWL does get a unique design, it's either ugly as gently caress (like the Yeoman), someone else from another faction uses it in a novel so it gets associated with the wrong house (the Wraith), or is a knockoff of a design that already exists and doesn't improve on it in any way (the Havoc). The Yeoman is my precious boxy boy and I will hear no slander against him.
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Technowolf posted:The Yeoman is my precious boxy boy and I will hear no slander against him. I'm afraid I have some bad news about the next thing I have in the pipeline
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Supposedly future force pack lists have leaked for the next few years. No one can confirm authenticity, a bit early for April Fool's though.
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Technowolf posted:The Yeoman is my precious boxy boy and I will hear no slander against him. As it turns out, I don't actually have a Yeoman. Think this might be the next mech to paint.
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Arquinsiel posted:I've had time to check and apparently this is the release schedule shown at KerenskyKon. Attendees were allowed share it. At least one part of it matches up with something I was told about previously too. There are some photos of prototypes for the mechs in the boxen floating around and I am looking forward to getting my hands on some. Continuing roadmap chat: Considering that it stretches all the way out to 2027, and it's been mentioned on the official forums that things change weekly on it, things are probably going to at least look slightly different as soon as 2025. The numbers folks will certainly take a look at this year's performance with the currently announced packs and the Mercs kickstarter packs hitting the LGSes and I bet that'll mix things up, if only at least in release order.
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Holybat posted:perfect pack for me would be the Xarbala FWL mechs, Juliano, Anzu, and Sarath. Since there isn't a fourth Xarbala FWL, it'd be cool to have a non-premium Eris thrown in to round the lance. A Quasimodo, surely.
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Arquinsiel posted:I've had time to check and apparently this is the release schedule shown at KerenskyKon. Attendees were allowed share it. At least one part of it matches up with something I was told about previously too. There are some photos of prototypes for the mechs in the boxen floating around and I am looking forward to getting my hands on some. Man, CGL is going to have a ton of packs out by the time these are all done. Hard to imagine just 5 years ago people were excited about what, 15 pack options?
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Man, CGL is going to have a ton of packs out by the time these are all done. Hard to imagine just 5 years ago people were excited about what, 15 pack options? If I had to guess, they realized that way more people are likely to buy boxed sets and mech packs over the equivalent of Osprey historical guides to mech wargaming. Which isn't to say that those books don't have an audience (TROs can be a lot of fun to read!), but I know way more people who have gotten into Battletech through the mech packs and have never once touched the fluff. CGL has to be making hand over fist at the moment.
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