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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I love the new bug planet with the canyons. Feels super dramatic yep it rules
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Dandywalken posted:yep it rules What is the name?
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Mar 19, 2024 21:56
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Turin Turambar posted:What is the name? Fori Prime, I think.
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Mar 19, 2024 22:29
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Jack B Nimble posted:I Really like the support pack but What I see ruin our runs most often is a charger no one can stop. Small arms can address any smaller enemies, but when a. Charger shows up you either kill it or you start a fighting retreat which is where things sometimes devolve into a running route with repeat deaths I don’t even see chargers as a primary threat, they rarely kill me, their lot in life is to add complications to the field and they do it well.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:Fori Prime, I think. Yeah Fori Prime is the first planet we've gotten the tall mesas terrain, currently it's bugged out (  ) and you cant go there, even with the Major Order telling to and the linked planets being under SE control.
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Mar 19, 2024 22:32
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ninjewtsu posted:i really don't understand why this is a thing
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Mar 19, 2024 22:35
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Slyphic posted:I just a strategem to exfiltrate samples mid match. Drop me down a light payload single launch sample rocket. I've been doing 7s and averaging 20+ regular samples per mission. As long as your team is clearing the map vs. rushing objectives you end up with a ton of stuff.
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Mar 19, 2024 22:43
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Molrok posted:Yeah Fori Prime is the first planet we've gotten the tall mesas terrain, currently it's bugged out ( The linked planets are Estanu and Crimsica, neither of which are under Super Earth control. This major order is "You have three days to take five planets".
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Joel is sick of our poo poo. I was wondering why the Scythe felt so much worse than the Sickle when it only has ~30% less dps, then realized "Rate of fire" is RPM, not RPS * 100 as I had been assuming, so it actually has less than half the damage of an otherwise very similar gun.
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Molrok posted:Yeah Fori Prime is the first planet we've gotten the tall mesas terrain, currently it's bugged out (
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Mar 19, 2024 23:10
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I did a very nice chill lvl 3 sabotage mission with only one death and some samples which for me by myself is p good And then the stupid steam update happened. I need a few more medals to get the last page booster maaaan
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Insert name here posted:Fenrir III was actually the same tileset, just with a moondust aesthetic instead By the way, I think it's very smart they haven't made the environment some static/baked like in so many modern games, but as you say they can mix and match base geometry/layout with different (arid, ice, temperate, etc) biome aesthetic, which seems to be a collection of textures, decals, props, etc. In fact they can mix and match all this: map layout environment type time of day weather condition enemy type So they have a good amount of permutations.
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Ravendas posted:I run heavy armor with explosion resist (versus bots) and they don't kill me too much. Oneiros posted:i think i own two heavy armours total because they're otherwise so lacklustre but i've been contemplating running it on bot missions Reminder that even light armor with explosion resist will regularly let you live through robot rockets with about 20% life left. It also doesn't slow you down like heavy. Sindai posted:Joel is sick of our poo poo. Could be worse the new laser pistol has half of the Scythe DPS! The Redeemer does 1100 DPS vs the Dagger at 150 DPS. The Dagger has to fire for 12.4 seconds to do the damage of one Redeemer magazine, and the Redeemer empties it's magazine in a hair under 1.7 seconds. I mean really?
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Scorcher is my new main I hate the close explosion damage but it can kill everything so it’s worth keeping
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CelticPredator posted:Scorcher is my new main Pretty much. It's a lot harder to use on the bugs because they are constantly in your poo poo but being able to blow a chargers back out relatively easily with a primary is pretty useful after the railgun change.
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I don’t really bring it for bugs. It’s def a robot killer for me all the way.
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I love scorcher for bots, need to try the sickle but I imagine it's not nearly as fun as it is against bugs.
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scorcher is solid but i wish it had a few more rounds in the clip
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I've been unimpressed by the scorcher every time I try it. Damage doesn't feel high enough to justify its piss-poor ammo economy IMHO
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BitBasher posted:The Redeemer does 1100 DPS vs the Dagger at 150 DPS. The Dagger has to fire for 12.4 seconds to do the damage of one Redeemer magazine, and the Redeemer empties it's magazine in a hair under 1.7 seconds. Feels like they strongly overvalue the benefit of "unlimited ammo". I think sickle is allowed to do real damage only because it has the windup time as a downside, which again they are overestimating the impact of(so it evens out). As for arc thrower, maybe they think the FF potential is a big deal. CelticPredator posted:I don’t really bring it for bugs. It’s def a robot killer for me all the way. johnny park posted:I've been unimpressed by the scorcher every time I try it. Damage doesn't feel high enough to justify its piss-poor ammo economy IMHO LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:I love scorcher for bots, need to try the sickle but I imagine it's not nearly as fun as it is against bugs.
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LazyMaybe posted:As said above, it's not about its raw damage output(which is a average). It's that the explosive tag lets it do good damage to some targets that otherwise have 90% damage resistance against primary weapons, and also the small splash lets you kill striders(the robot chicken walkers) from the front. I'm really glad more people are seeing it like this. The Scorcher doesn't necessarily win a DPS race against other weapons, but it can kill fuckin everything
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Insert name here posted:Fenrir III was actually the same tileset, just with a moondust aesthetic instead Things will seem pretty samey because of the procgen algorithim probably needing relatively similar terrain assets to piece together, but Fori has things like cave tunnels through canyon walls that none of the other planets have had. It's definitely its own thing. Tien Quan or w/e was definitely just Fenrir, though. Just from looking at the datamined planet banners there are actually a ton of variations in game or in the works, like the boreal forsts, weird fungus worlds and cities.
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Shadowlyger posted:The linked planets are Estanu and Crimsica, neither of which are under Super Earth control. Oh! Well that explains that, cheers! Insert name here posted:Fenrir III was actually the same tileset, just with a moondust aesthetic instead I dont remember Fenir III having massive mesas on it, which Fori sports. (It did have extreme cliffs that broke pathways yeah)  Added lines on the minimap to highlight the terrain features that were 100% mesa, no helldivers allowed on that mission. And you can see a tunnel opening at between the golden POI light and the antenna.
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Arc thrower really clicked for me when I realized I don't need to fully charge it to fire every time. My fire rate is so much faster now.
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The explosive damage is why my latest experimentation with the scorcher was vs bile spewers and let me tell you it does NOT kill them anywhere near fast enough
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Arc Hammer posted:Arc thrower really clicked for me when I realized I don't need to fully charge it to fire every time. My fire rate is so much faster now. I just wish there were some sort of indicator as to when it was actually fireable
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Saraiguma posted:I just wish there were some sort of indicator as to when it was actually fireable The first shot has to be fully charged; subsequent shots can fired about once per second.
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johnny park posted:The explosive damage is why my latest experimentation with the scorcher was vs bile spewers and let me tell you it does NOT kill them anywhere near fast enough go play bots. I’m sick of bugs honestly Bile spitters and nurse spitters can go to hell. They make the game incredibly unfun to play.
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BitBasher posted:Reminder that even light armor with explosion resist will regularly let you live through robot rockets with about 20% life left. It also doesn't slow you down like heavy. One of the biggest balance mistakes is that the Redeemer is far and away the best sidearm. Nothing comes close. It's a straight upgrade from the pistol, the revolver takes forever to reload, and, as mentioned, the laser pistol does hardly any damage. My suggestion would be to add a speed-loader to the revolver and make the Redeemer less accurate (or the starting pistol more accurate). The good news is that I saw a leak that they're planning a pistol that shoots grenades. That should be interesting!
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William Bear posted:One of the biggest balance mistakes is that the Redeemer is far and away the best sidearm. Nothing comes close. It's a straight upgrade from the pistol, the revolver takes forever to reload, and, as mentioned, the laser pistol does hardly any damage. You are 100% right, and I'm assuming they think the Redeemer is balanced by the fact that the clip will become empty if you just think about it too hard, and very little reserve ammo. It kind of is? Man it runs out in nothing flat. For giggles then if we compare the Dagger to the literal starter pistol we all start with for free, the Dagger has one sixth of the DPS off the top of my head. It's impressively bad. 900 vs 150
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Letting the Redeemer have a semi-auto mode was probably a mistake.
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BitBasher posted:Reminder that even light armor with explosion resist will regularly let you live through robot rockets with about 20% life left. It also doesn't slow you down like heavy. Honest question: is it worth it to take the explosive resist light armor - 50% explosive DR - when the extra padding one doubles your 'armor' stat presumably against every incoming attack? You might say the explosive resist can reduce more damage in the long run, but in practice you're popping a stim after even rocket near misses so...
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Arc Hammer posted:Arc thrower really clicked for me when I realized I don't need to fully charge it to fire every time. My fire rate is so much faster now. Nice, I need to start playing with it some more. The Sickle is just so good. Between using an EAT and it I have essentially no ammo requirements at all besides grenades, which is handy both for my teammates and for if I die. Not having to worry about watching my ammo also makes it easier to lay down constant fire. Now I need to decide between a shield and rover, or play with the jetpack some more while it's free. E: yeah the obvious way to make the redeemer a bit better is to lock it to full auto. At least then there might be a reason to use something else. (I still won't) Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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raverrn posted:Honest question: is it worth it to take the explosive resist light armor - 50% explosive DR - when the extra padding one doubles your 'armor' stat presumably against every incoming attack? I don't know because I don't have any light armor with the padded trait to try. I know that when I take half damage because of the blast blast resistance I barely survive, so I'm assuming that with padded I wouldn't survive a direct hit at all. I need to keep an eye out for it. I'm trying to collect a light suit with each of the traits. It seems like there are way more heavy and medium suits than light. I keep the explosive resistance armor in because I can't tell you how many times I've been ragdolled away from grenades and strategems but lived to tell about it. I wear it because of my companions in democracy more than because of my enemies!
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raverrn posted:Honest question: is it worth it to take the explosive resist light armor - 50% explosive DR - when the extra padding one doubles your 'armor' stat presumably against every incoming attack?
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Unhappy Meal posted:Letting the Redeemer have a semi-auto mode was probably a mistake. raverrn posted:Honest question: is it worth it to take the explosive resist light armor - 50% explosive DR - when the extra padding one doubles your 'armor' stat presumably against every incoming attack?
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