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MeinPanzer posted:Just saw it again. The one part that really feels unnecessary to me is the inclusion of Margot Fenring and her encounter with Feyd. In this version of the narrative it just doesn’t bring much to the table. Are we supposed to believe that her baby will be a threat to Paul? He’s already leaving Arrakis for his galactic jihad, Feyd is dead, and she’s probably only a few months along, to judge from Jessica’s progress. It would have been simpler to cut her character out and simply have Mohiam mention that they have Feyd as an alternative to Paul, and that they plan to breed him with a Bene Gesserit to produce a possible Kwisatz Haderach. The first movie didn't (visually) stress at all how things were being manipulated because just basic current society assumed the Duke had power and got screwed over by other men. In this movie, the reveal that it was always women putting themselves in a place to control the dudes and showing how they do it visually is super, duper important to someone not familiar. Like infinitely, for the story.
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Unless everyone on the planet is related I assume that black sun is performing incredible electrolysis to keep everyone hairless. That or everyone dutifully shaves to stay smooth as a porpoise for you.
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It would be extremely funny if only the Baron is bald and everyone else wears bald caps to slavishly flatter him.
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maybe they shave to maximize vitamin D production in low light or something
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I guess it's to show that the Harkonnens are products of a horrific environment, just like the Fremen or the Sardaukar. For the Harkonnens this has led to a kind of geigerist hyper-autocracy, while environmental pressures forced the fremen to value equality... until the arrival of the lisan al gaib, anyway....
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I wonder if Giedi Prime has like that one guy walking around in a toupee, just totally owning it. The ladies are confused, intrigued, maybe even a little frisky. That or it's shoot on sight.
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Scags McDouglas posted:I wonder if Giedi Prime has like that one guy walking around in a toupee, just totally owning it. The ladies are confused, intrigued, maybe even a little frisky. He's a distant relative of the one Fremen who likes to work on his tan. You know, ole dead Garry.
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vitamin Dune
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I think with how much they've cut out, Denis is just going all in on showing how the Bene Gesserit have pulled strings and controlled things at every level of society. The Lady Fenring stuff is important in showing that every place we see in the movie has the BG easily manipulating outcomes.
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Look at the end of the day I think we can all agree that we need a director's cut where we see Austin Butler stick his dick in the pain box.
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Where does “black sun” as a description of Giedi Prime’s star come from anyways? I can’t seem to find it in the first book
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Pretty sure it's a movie invention.
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CelticPredator posted:Dune is sci fi fantasy it doesn’t matter Dune is sci fi its just that the sciences its principally concerned with are political science, sociology, anthropology and ecology Steve Yun posted:Where does “black sun” as a description of Giedi Prime’s star come from anyways? I can’t seem to find it in the first book its from the announcer in the arena, I don't remember anything like that from the books, looks loving sick tho
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AnEdgelord posted:Dune is sci fi its just that the sciences its principally concerned with are political science, sociology, anthropology and ecology oof
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Explain your oof!
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Steve Yun posted:Where does “black sun” as a description of Giedi Prime’s star come from anyways? I can’t seem to find it in the first book In the books, Giedi Prime is orbiting 36 Ophuchi B, which a main sequence orange dwarf irl
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zoux posted:In the books, Giedi Prime is orbiting 36 Ophuchi B, which a main sequence orange dwarf irl This is a wonderful post. e: Sol is an orange dwarf, right? Or yellow dwarf?
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The way the colours came back in the shadows messed with my brain
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Watched Dune 2 a second time and loved it.
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AnEdgelord posted:Dune is sci fi its just that the sciences its principally concerned with are political science, sociology, anthropology and ecology And about as accurate as most sci-fi is to physics!
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Gatts posted:Watched Dune 2 a second time and loved it. same
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Tree Bucket posted:This is a wonderful post. No E: yes
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well why not posted:The way the colours came back in the shadows messed with my brain Same. I loved it.
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Tree Bucket posted:This is a wonderful post. The Sun is a yellow dwarf, yeah. It's roughly a third again as large as a typical orange dwarf.
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There are stars so cool as to only emit infrared, but these are red and brown dwarfs that wouldn't have habitable zones. I don't think something like the black sun seen in the film is possible, but I would rather him ignore that rather than cut one of the most visually evocative sequences I've ever seen in a movie.
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Scags McDouglas posted:I wonder if Giedi Prime has like that one guy walking around in a toupee, just totally owning it. The ladies are confused, intrigued, maybe even a little hungry.
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I don't know about you, but I insist upon abject soul-crushing ultrarealism in all media entertainment, especially those with FTL, personal force shields, and eugenic supermen.
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The worst example of this is neil boring rear end tyson complaining that you can't "thump" sand. okay well mister neil this is an alien planet with different alien sand, maybe try shutting the gently caress up and not sexually harassing anyone in the meantime
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Does Tyson actually do anything anymore but tweet about how a cow can't literally jump over the moon? Astrophysics sounds really hard, I can't imagine getting a doctorate in that and then basically retiring to be a Twitter gadfly.
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Hey remember when he said BB-8 from Force Awakens wouldn't work on sand and just spin in place? And then it turns ILM had built BB-8 as a remote controlled prop and drove it around on sand just fine.
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Admiral Bosch posted:The worst example of this is neil boring rear end tyson complaining that you can't "thump" sand. okay well mister neil this is an alien planet with different alien sand, maybe try shutting the gently caress up and not sexually harassing anyone in the meantime Also don't several real world animals do the exact thing he's claiming is impossible? I distinctly remember a snake that buries itself in the sand to sense vibrations
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Halloween Jack posted:Does Tyson actually do anything anymore but tweet about how a cow can't literally jump over the moon? Astrophysics sounds really hard, I can't imagine getting a doctorate in that and then basically retiring to be a Twitter gadfly. He was on The Adam Freidland Show like last year I think
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I rest my case.
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DUN3 confirmed according to Hans Zimmer apparently https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/dune-3-news-leaked-hans-152418121.html
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Groetgaffel posted:DUN3 confirmed according to Hans Zimmer apparently garbage click bait...
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Groetgaffel posted:DUN3 confirmed according to Hans Zimmer apparently There's absolutely nothing in that article that confirms it, or tells us anything more concrete than what we've heard before. Don't bother clicking.
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Groetgaffel posted:DUN3 confirmed according to Hans Zimmer apparently leaks? this is not the way of this thread. secure your stillsuit or begone, outworlder
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I can’t find it now but I saw a video where they set their phone to record, buried it in a desert, and then punched the ground from a long distance and confirmed that yeah you can hear it
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I finally got to see this in ultra for-real IMAX, after getting delayed by being sick, and yeah it looked and especially sounded quite nice in that experience. I never read any of the books, so I don't have any particular feelings towards what was removed or modified, but the movie itself did feel a little bit brisk to me. It's one of the few movies where I wished it was a little bit longer. Maybe if instead of being 2:45 it was like 3:30 that might have been enough additional lingering for me, I don't know. I just saw Zone of Interest the other day and that was almost completely the opposite in terms of pacing. It's only 1:45 but it felt like a 3 hour movie. I guess the first movie felt like everything was moving really fast too, up until the Harkonnen attack, even though we can infer from dialogue that everything was taking place over the course of several months. That line in Dune 1 where Leto says something like "I thought we had more time" came to mind as I could tell the movie's conclusion was approaching. One thing which I don't think anyone has said in the thread yet on the topic of in-universe pacing. People have said how everything needs to take place in less than 9 months since Jessica is pregnant in Dune 1 and also the whole time in Dune 2. But, the Bene Gesserit are said to have this incredible level of biological body control, to the point that they can just mentally decide whether they're going to have a boy or girl, apparently right at the moment of conception. So, to me, it's not an enormous stretch to imagine that it's actually more than 9 months, and Jessica's purposefully making her pregnancy take longer, due to Reasons. Maybe it's part of some Fremen superstition she's exploiting, maybe it's easier to keep a baby safe inside of her than externally in the harsh Arrakis environment, etc. Maybe she's not even doing it on purpose, maybe it's another effect of the Water of Life, obviously it already did a lot of crazy things, enough that the previous reverend mother was like "oh poo poo whoops."
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