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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Thanks for the heads up - just checked, it's still showing the same dimensions for the 20l bag 40cm x 25cm x 20cm Glad it's fine, must be my memory conflating things.  edit: Queen Victoria died at the age of 81, as did Kenny Rogers. Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1770584923411218777 Name these good people you dried up old hack. Sick of this Centrist notion that the person with the most impressive CV obviously would be the best politician. If you paid MP's £200K and attracted the people who could earn £200k a year outside of politics you know what you'll get? A bunch of MP's who want to make sure that people getting £200k a year keep getting better and better deals and gently caress everyone else. Empty, dumb poo poo predicated on the idea that nothing needs fundamentally changed and we just need bright people to tinker around the edges. How is paying MP's more going to attract more teachers and medical professionals going into the profession? How is it going to help them with suspending their careers? How is it going to stop the party process of weeding out anyone with even the slightest left wing ideals from becoming MP's? I loving hate Iannucci. Great comedy writer but such a weak man. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Mar 21, 2024 02:05
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I was once sat on my old Tory MP Oliver Colive's sofa and asked him to his face if he deserved his pay rise. He said he did, pointed out how hard he worked, and stressed that it was a statutory pay increase which he had no say in. So I asked him if he'd consider donating his pay rise to the local foodbank, seeing as he'd voted for so many rounds of austerity forcing its necessity. He responded by laughing a "No".
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Mar 21, 2024 02:33
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Just Another Lurker posted:edit: Queen Victoria died at the age of 81, as did Kenny Rogers. OwlFancier posted:I feel like ideally it should be sent back to the developers saying "build it properly or it doesn't get built" and it does seem odd to say that badly built estates of badly built houses are good because at least it's a house? And then the rest of the houses end up like: https://twitter.com/NewHomeQuality1/status/1658750722811240448
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Mar 21, 2024 07:17
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Owen Jones is FINALLY pushed far enough to cancel his Labour Party membership: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies Thought it'd never happen!
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Mar 21, 2024 07:46
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forkboy84 posted:I mean sure, but developers really should have a legal responsibility to upgrade infrastructure when building a sizeable number of new houses. Subsidise bus services for X years, fund improvements to sewers and power infrastructure, bare minimum stuff, and then ideally over a certain size there should be a pharmacy, shop, a GP surgery, at some point a primary school. Not to mention a much higher proportion of actually affordable property. Exactly. I get the impulse to laugh at me, it's why I posted it. I see the irony in me moaning about new builds now I'm in a village. But a lot of builds have no thought behind them and are just an exercise in he government hitting targets. There's even a much better suited brownfield site the other side of town, has already better access to the road and an existed through road, but it would only be suitable for 170 houses and apparently the owner wants more for it, so less profit to be made. They are promising 40% will be affordable housing, but apparently they promised similar numbers for their last project and only delivered 12% but nothing seemingly was done about it and here they are with a new contract a and the same promise. Rarity posted:Anyway, it takes ages to build 250 homes so that's plenty of time to get some extra shops and buses sorted There has been plenty of time to improve services for the last 13 years and yet.... Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Mar 21, 2024 08:08
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Guavanaut posted:Yes we're Global Britane now I feel strangely calm and reassured.
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Mar 21, 2024 08:14
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forkboy84 posted:I mean sure, but developers really should have a legal responsibility to upgrade infrastructure when building a sizeable number of new houses. Subsidise bus services for X years, fund improvements to sewers and power infrastructure, bare minimum stuff, and then ideally over a certain size there should be a pharmacy, shop, a GP surgery, at some point a primary school. Not to mention a much higher proportion of actually affordable property. That is what is meant to and does happen, developers are regularly required to chuck a few 100k at the bus company for some new services or to upgrade bus stops. When properly planned developments of a certain size should have a school or shops. The issue with primary schools is that there's not enough kids so even existing ones are shutting down. The issue with GPs is you can't magic up a couple of doctors that want to work in a certain place. In terms of sewers it is the legal responsibility of the water companies to upgrade infrastructure to meet the needs of new development (lol). Not trying to back developers because they are all bastards and in an ideal world Councils would be building the housing estates.
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Mar 21, 2024 08:30
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Owen Jones has finally got it https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies e: for the second time on this page, in fact! sebzilla fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Mar 21, 2024 08:31
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:In terms of sewers it is the legal responsibility of the water companies to upgrade infrastructure to meet the needs of new development (lol).
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Mar 21, 2024 08:34
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Mega Comrade posted:There's even a much better suited brownfield site the other side of town, has already better access to the road and an existed through road, but it would only be suitable for 170 houses and apparently the owner wants more for it, so less profit to be made. It’s almost as if, like water, electricity, education, healthcare, public transport and internet access, housing is a basic public service and should be paid for and developed by the state, so that profit motive is removed and projects are undertaken for the public good, with coordinated action in all other public services to ensure robust infrastructure exists to accommodate the new population. God, how I wish we lived in a socialist utopia, I wish all the things the Telegraph and the Mail are afraid of came true.
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Mar 21, 2024 09:08
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When I lived in Liverpool, there was 2 whole streets of empty houses near me. I'm sure with levelling up they are all filled with happy families now though! Jokes aside. I wonder how much of the housing crisis could just be solved with an actual push to improve services and jobs in the north.
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Mar 21, 2024 09:27
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Mega Comrade posted:Exactly. It's not just a numbers game though is it? A lack of housing has significant real world impacts for people. This Sky News piece is a bit of a shill for the rental market but a good representation of what struggle for housing looks like for a lot of people. https://youtu.be/f_iq7B0trZQ?si=Ybi9WyR6thYejC_R Also if you buy a house on the edge of a village or town with a few services and it's not in an AONB or Green Belt or National Park then you should be aware that there's a decent likelihood someone might be building houses around you.
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Mar 21, 2024 09:29
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:there's a decent likelihood someone might be building houses around you. 
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Mar 21, 2024 09:41
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:It's not just a numbers game though is it? A lack of housing has significant real world impacts for people. i know what you mean but i imagine going to sleep with your kids in a tent for a backyard camping trip and waking up to discover a bunch of busy carpenters putting up walls around it
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Mar 21, 2024 09:44
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:there's a decent likelihood someone might be building houses around you.
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Mar 21, 2024 09:45
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:It's not just a numbers game though is it? A lack of housing has significant real world impacts for people. They do, but most new builds seem to intentionally reneg on their promises for affordable housing and include zero council housing. 250 houses all prices at £400k plus isn't going help the people who desperately need a home. quote:Also if you buy a house on the edge of a village or town with a few services and it's not in an AONB or Green Belt or National Park then you should be aware that there's a decent likelihood someone might be building houses around you. Funnily enough this site was within an awe zone before and deemed not fit. Then it was decided it was fine actually. How something like that happens I'm not sure.
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Mar 21, 2024 09:48
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:It's not just a numbers game though is it? A lack of housing has significant real world impacts for people. It both is and is not a numbers game. The UK actually has plenty of housing, some of that stock isn't great and could use being renewed but we don't actually need to build in anything like the numbers being quoted. The problem is at lot of that stock is in the hands of far too few people and the price of it is hugely artificially inflated. Nick Bano posted:In terms of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development countries, the UK has roughly the average number of homes per capita: 468 per 1,000 people in 2019. We have a comparable amount of housing to the Netherlands, Hungary or Canada, and our housing stock far exceeds many more affordable places such as Poland, Slovenia and the Czech Republic. It is impossible to make a case for unique levels of housing scarcity in Britain, in comparative international or historical terms. What has changed for the worse is not the amount of housing per household, but its cost. And cost, in turn, has a great deal to do with the landlordism that is at the heart of the present crisis. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...0can%20produce. I live somewhere where there are a lot of new builds going up, too many for the local infrastructure really. I don't resent it though, people need somewhere to live and can't get one in the city nearby which is basically an Airbnb and student cash cow for landlords despite some legislative attempts to address it. If they could get a place in the city many wouldn't be buying new builds here. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Mar 21, 2024 09:52
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I'm just greedy: I want to build new houses AND eliminate landlordism.
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Mar 21, 2024 09:56
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Mega Comrade posted:Funnily enough this site was within an awe zone before and deemed not fit. Then it was decided it was fine actually. How something like that happens I'm not sure. It was reclassified from an "awe zone" to an "aww  zone".Idk if it makes me an accelerationist YIMBY or what, but I've pretty firmly fallen on the side of "you just have to build that poo poo", everywhere, and let the pressure of those new residents (who are now local voters) force the services issues to the fore. It sucks, but people have to live somewhere. Obviously, there are legitimate environmental arguments to exclude development in certain areas and we should be pushing for stricter planning requirements on large-scale developments, but the current objections process is hilariously pro-NIMBY. Note that I'm actually talking about Ireland here, where multiple professional objectors have recently been exposed extorting developers, demanding €50-100k to withdraw their spurious objections. (I know I know, won't someone think of the poor developers  . But I don't give a poo poo about their profit margins obviously, I just accept that at the moment they're the only ones building homes at scale)
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Mar 21, 2024 09:58
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Gonzo McFee posted:I loving hate Iannucci. Great comedy writer but such a weak man. It was such a disappointment to discover his personal politics were centrist melt.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:00
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1770584923411218777 That’s not why you pay them more, you pay them more to change the risk/reward on abusing their power. Singapore for example pays public servants very well because this was a deliberate policy response to corruption in the 70s and 80s. The UK might not actually be rich enough to do this btw, elite incomes are set globally and the UK is quite possibly no longer able to keep up. It’s usually not that you can’t find amazing people who are motivated by intrinsic rewards and not money it’s that you can’t find enough of them to fill all the roles that need someone competent.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:01
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I lived in the south west for 20 years and all the villages had their own brigade of 'I moved here for XYZ reasons and want to prevent others being able to do the same' types
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Mar 21, 2024 10:05
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Owen Jones leaving Labour should be pretty seismic; he's always believed in the adage that the worst Labour government is better than the best Tory government. Even he can't excuse the Toryisation of the starmer project. I said should, but it won't, because Jones is a constant media pariah and as he predicts in his column, the usual cunts will dismiss this as him being a sore loser.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:09
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Puntification posted:It was such a disappointment to discover his personal politics were centrist melt. This is why I'm glad Chris Morris does incredible comedy and then refuses to elaborate.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:10
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Tesseraction posted:This is why I'm glad Chris Morris does incredible comedy and then refuses to elaborate. Chris Morris coming out as a lib dem, or something equally poo poo, would be devastating.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:28
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that picture on the owen jones article is horribly bad. It looks like it was going to be a parody of that boyfriend meme but then wasnt?
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Mar 21, 2024 10:34
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The only ‘housing’ that gets built near me is “boutique student living” where students are crammed into tiny highrise boxrooms that are below spec to ever be repurposed as regular flats, but they have movie nights and housekeeping to justify enormous rents 
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Mar 21, 2024 10:34
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NotJustANumber99 posted:that picture on the owen jones article is horribly bad. It looks like it was going to be a parody of that boyfriend meme but then wasnt? Him walking away from a rose? That's just designed to look dramatic, not imply the distracted boyfriend meme.
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Mar 21, 2024 10:45
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It's just a horrible picture and it looks like it was about to and then didn't. It's just weird
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Mar 21, 2024 10:48
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Beefeater1980 posted:That’s not why you pay them more, you pay them more to change the risk/reward on abusing their power. Singapore for example pays public servants very well because this was a deliberate policy response to corruption in the 70s and 80s. The UK might not actually be rich enough to do this btw, elite incomes are set globally and the UK is quite possibly no longer able to keep up. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/mar/10/when-17m-isnt-enough-ftse-firms-plead-to-pay-bosses-millions-more
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Mar 21, 2024 10:53
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Pistol_Pete posted:Owen Jones is FINALLY pushed far enough to cancel his Labour Party membership: He's like the world's shittest weathervane, who eventually points in the right direction but about 5 years too late e: also worth noting he says nothing about the party's horrific transphobia issues (which it admittedly had during the Corbyn era, but have gotten so much worse since)
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Mar 21, 2024 11:03
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Pistol_Pete posted:I'm just greedy: I want to build new houses AND eliminate landlordism. This is it. Housing is an essential good and so the profit motive needs removed from the industry. But failing a radical restructuring of the entire economy in such a way that would make Britain an international pariah, we could at least enforce the the already existing rules on things like affordable housing (& it has to actually be affordable, and less of poo poo like pauper's entrances so the well-to-do don't accidentally rub shoulders with someone on less than £30k a year). But honestly with politics like it is that's barely less fantastical than abandoning capitalism
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Mar 21, 2024 11:08
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mfcrocker posted:He's like the world's shittest weathervane, who eventually points in the right direction but about 5 years too late Jones has been very consistent and vocal in his support of trans right, he doesn't need to prove his bonafides in every column and public statement
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Mar 21, 2024 11:10
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Guavanaut posted:The other problem is that they continually lie. They do floodwater analysis during the driest season, traffic flow analysis during mid afternoon on a Wednesday, and always come up with some lovely reason that they can't build any of the affordable houses midway through construction. lol, there was this one in the BBC just the other day, where it looks an awful lot like they've placed all their affordable housing at the foot of a shockingly unaffordable retaining wall. Also iirc there's strong evidence that the big UK home builders are collaborating to reduce the flow of new homes to keep prices high.
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Mar 21, 2024 11:12
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TACD posted:enormous rents I was just looking at where I was renting 5 years ago before I bought my house and rents are up 50 - 60% in that time! They've gone from £800 - £900 a month for a 1 bed to £1,300 - £1,400, which is just crazy. The rental market's out of control.
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Mar 21, 2024 11:13
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https://twitter.com/SimonDalling/status/1770699733729792232 While it's  and  regarding the implosion of the Tories, Keith is going to win a huge mandate for promising continued austerity and authoritarianism.
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Mar 21, 2024 11:22
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/SimonDalling/status/1770699733729792232 It's very funny that presiding over the absolute evisceration of the conservatives won't cost Rishi his seat. Is there a list of which are the 36 seats?
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Mar 21, 2024 11:27
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mfcrocker posted:He's like the world's shittest weathervane, who eventually points in the right direction but about 5 years too late Yes he does https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/30/lgbtq-labour-thatcher-section-28 https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/life/owen-jones-there-are-examples-of-transphobia-from-the-top-to-the-bottom-of-the-labour-party/ Owen Jones main fault is being naieve that Labour can return to the left any time soon. Which he's now finally realised won't happen. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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Puntification posted:It's very funny that presiding over the absolute evisceration of the conservatives won't cost Rishi his seat. Is there a list of which are the 36 seats? These things are done by swings, so just look at a list of the safest Tory seats. Regarding Mega Comrade, Arch-NIMBY: the important thing to take into account is that these houses are not intended to provide homes for 250 families, but rather an income stream for 250 landlords - probably far fewer, as with new build projects like this it's typically a few large agencies buying up whole streets. It's like a kaiju movie on a very British level: Mega Comrade vs Mega Landlord, with the former battling to stop the latter destroying Tokyo-on-Wye.
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