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Biplane posted:I wrote a bunch of words here before I came to my loving senses and asked myself why in the gently caress am I arguing about which is best, cops or soldiers, and isn't there literally anything more worth my time, like hammering nails into my dick? My state sanctioned violence dad can beat up your state sanctioned violence dad!! 
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tokin opposition posted:Cops keep having panic attacks because they saw a white powder, and there is a *lot* of pent up hatred for cops that's ambient in the air. They're only effective so long as the status quo never changes, and, well... Yeah pretty much. Violently resisting cops (which I cannot condone at this time) doesn't happen because the full force of the state will come down on those try, so this is only viable if the full of the force stops including the feds and other states. In a collapse scenario I bet police departments become little armies like they already are, just more so, and they will set up cop juntas and thus they go from an annoyance and vague threat to most people to the actual power and a force that will abuse the gently caress out of everyone they meet. Tiggum posted:Only with a wakizashi. And who would habitually be carrying around a wakizashi with which to defend themself? Samurai. Who are the only people who could get away with self-defence from cops? Other cops. It works exactly the same way. In the wiki they noted an example where a peasant insulted the samurai, and the samurai gave him his wakizashi to fight with. The peasant ran away with it and the samurai was dishonored further, which was only satisfied once he got the sword back and uh, killed that guy's family. Of course a sword requires intense training to use, so that's still just a fig leaf over how brutal that kind of social order is. Peasants wouldn't receive training or armor or weapons and what do you know, the guys that do run everything and also made sure to block off access from the outside world that might give them muskets.
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Biplane posted:I wrote a bunch of words here before I came to my loving senses and asked myself why in the gently caress am I arguing about which is best, cops or soldiers, and isn't there literally anything more worth my time, like hammering nails into my dick? The distinction is politically relevant. There's a reason capitalist states maintain an enlisted / commissioned distinction in the military, and not in civilian police forces. The officer corps is required to maintain control of the enlisted troops, precisely because if you tried to build a military with the same mechanisms that guarantee the political reliability of the police, it wouldn't function as an army. This is why there were military mutinies in February and October, when soldiers were sent against the public in a vacuum of legitimacy, while the St Petersburg cops swung clubs and whips until they faced guns, and then locked themselves up in the local jails and begged for the new authorities to send jailers so they wouldn't be dragged out and lynched in the street. EDIT: under normal conditions, the ruling class can send the army to shoot down the people, if they have to, and that possibility, as already said, serves as a necessary backstop to the police. That said, habitually using the army for that purpose is bad for morale, requires skills distinct from what you want your army to be focusing on to wage even colonial wars, and tends to delegitimize the army and the state as a whole. Therefore, the advantage of developing a separate force, accustomed to constant repression, whose morale will not be eroded, and who can be specially trained for the purpose, and who do not need to be ready to wage war against actual armies in the field, and so can be coddled and pampered in such a way to assure their reliable hostility to the masses, even in a state of crisis where there is no clear legitimized political authority. Pomeroy has issued a correction as of 08:40 on Mar 20, 2024 |
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Is there a Wesson posting here? We already got Smythe
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tokin opposition posted:Working Class Murderers vs Bourgeois Everyone Else But enough about my dreamy wish-life
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https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1770196825036710010
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No, no. It’s not disgusting you just don’t have the right mind set! Now would be the perfect time to make a start up offering an app that uses AI to give therapy to sports betting addicts! Ground floor, baby!
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Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Eligibility rules apply.
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enter code PETEROSE for a free bonus offer
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I joked about this a few months back. Should have patented it then
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Give it a few years and news networks will be doing this with election coverage.
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so Biden's CHIPS act is disbursing $39B in subsidies for the dubious goal of onshoring chip production. today it was announced that Intel is getting $8.9B to build some garbage that's gonna suck. quick napkin math - there are about 165M taxpayers. split among them you get $54 for Intel out of about $236. fab! mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 08:35 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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that's definitely higher than my usual Intel donation
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lol New program will test graffiti-obliterating drones along Washington highways www.bizjournals.com posted:Graffiti along Washington highways has become more common, and the state will soon begin to tackle the problem.
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the endless miles of grey and black cannot be sullied with color
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mawarannahr posted:lol https://youtu.be/oDrYkwG6Tuo?si=CZxUxKdgmvVOaXkT
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mawarannahr posted:lol i seriously cannot imagine being "frustrated with graffiti"
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are you wearing a big tan trenchcoat and getting your back tagged by rollerskating teens??
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:i seriously cannot imagine being "frustrated with graffiti" Rigged Death Trap posted:the endless miles of grey and black cannot be sullied with color Yeah I’ve never understood this either
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there's a big blank wall on the bike trail I use and every so often when they paint over it the first piece of graffiti on it is always "NICE, FRESH GRAY PAINT!"
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There’s a tagger I used to see whose tag was fart princess, it made me smile
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mawarannahr posted:lol Even if this works, you're just creating more blank space for more graffiti. You're doing the taggers a favor, really. In New Orleans, the city tried to force one of the business owners who had commissioned murals on her walls to pay $50,000 to a city contractor to paint them all over. They were pretty nice art pieces, people liked them.  The owner eventually convinced the city to allow her to find her own painter, which saved her $40,000, but she still had to paint them over. Here's what that corner looks like now. 
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PostNouveau posted:Even if this works, you're just creating more blank space for more graffiti. You're doing the taggers a favor, really. wow it's cool to see local government making a real difference
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500excf type r posted:You're vastly underestimating "police" as a unified whole and how much the logistics and support networks matter when it comes to fighting. Police have it, right now, all across the US. They have it on the municipal, state, and federal levels and they all view themselves as a single team against everyone else. US soldiers post societal collapse will have no support network, no logistical supplies, no command and control. All the fitness and discipline standards in the world won't matter when you don't have food or clean water. cops got their assess kicked by a spontaneous uprising in 2020 and are constantly shown to be cowards. they’re karens with guns whose threadbare sense of solidarity is entirely reliant on being the only untouched budget line in a dying system.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:i seriously cannot imagine being "frustrated with graffiti" My (and probably several other people's) hometown has a graffiti bridge that's kind of a dedicated free space for graffiti and it's a good litmus test for whether someone is worth knowing or not if they get extremely mad about it even existing
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I saw some grafitti on a bnsf train car last weekend that said "JESIS WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE" and I couldn't tell if it was supportive or critical
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Je suis Vaas, an anti-semite.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:i seriously cannot imagine being "frustrated with graffiti" Seattle liberals are awful
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lol nature e: thought this was cyberpunk thread E-contact facilitated by conversational agents reduces interethnic prejudice and anxiety in Afghanistan  www.nature.com posted:Intergroup contact occurring through indirect means such as the internet has the potential to improve intergroup relationships and may be especially beneficial in high conflict situations. Here we conducted a three-timepoint online experiment to ascertain whether the use of a conversational agent in E-contact platforms could mitigate interethnic prejudices and hostility among Afghanistan’s historically segregated and persistently conflictual ethnic groups. 128 Afghans of Pashtun, Tajik, and Hazara backgrounds were assigned to one of four E-contact conditions (control with no conversational agent and three experimental groups that varied in the conversational agent settings). Participants in the experimental conditions contributed more ideas and longer opinions and showed a greater reduction in outgroup prejudice and anxiety than those in the control group. These findings demonstrate that E-contact facilitated by a conversational agent can improve intergroup attitudes even in contexts characterized by a long history of intergroup segregation and conflict.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:No graffiti on a highway but billboards are okay? that's paid for. that's higher-class. graffiti is the youth doing things without permission!!!!
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Arivia posted:that's paid for. that's higher-class. graffiti is the youth doing things without permission!!!! Not just youth, inner-city youth. You know, those ones. With the skin color and all.
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I grew up sort of passively disliking graffiti, because I am extremely middle class. I think it's partly just a habit, and partly the idea of doing something without permission, which "damages" stuff. I've later spent 5 minutes realising that graffiti is pretty cool though.
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Some grafitti looks bad but I like that it exists because it shows that the people in power can't control everything and I like the thought of them getting frustrated that it keeps coming back
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I was admiring the graffiti last night on my train ride home but one was advertising an NFT so now I think all graffiti is bad
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Whooping Crabs posted:I was admiring the graffiti last night on my train ride home but one was advertising an NFT so now I think all graffiti is bad There's a personal injury law firm here that will periodically replace one of their normal billboards with one that looks like it's been graffiti'd over by someone mad at them that they got sued and lost a lot of money.
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