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A Buttery Pastry posted:Lend-Lease is helping Goku built a Spirit Bomb, not Goku himself. This is specifically for the Gohan vs Cell analogy.
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I feel like I've actively lost knowledge reading the last page between the weird right wing framing and Dragon Ball analogies.
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Posting about anime? on Something Awful? cringe
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Minenfeld! posted:I feel like I've actively lost knowledge reading the last page between the weird right wing framing and Dragon Ball analogies. what do you mean by "the weird right wing framing"?
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Byzantine posted:I said that the USSR would have lost without the Western Allies helping, yes. Stalin, Zhukov and Krushchev all said as much. Incomplete quoting on my post, I was mainly referring to the Air Skwirl's post about the Soviets single-handedly defeating the Axis. But yeah I meant the Japanese, not the loItalian army.
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spirit bombs are praxis
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ChubbyChecker posted:what do you mean by "the weird right wing framing"? The usual propaganda line that the USSR won WW2 all by it's lonesome doing 99% of the work while the rest of the world watched with awe at it's might.
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You know those rightwingers, always talking up the USSR (???)
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It's probably a fairly popular right wing position in Russia 
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Byzantine posted:You know those rightwingers, always talking up the USSR (???) I mean have you been looking at modern right wing discourse?
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Hunt11 posted:I mean have you been looking at modern right wing discourse? they're more about putin's russia than soviet russia
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Right wingers famously love Josef Stalin.
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Carthag Tuek posted:spirit bombs are praxis Komsomolskayamehameha
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FreudianSlippers posted:Right wingers famously love Josef Stalin. Russian ones do
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Komsomolskayamehameha radical saiyanism-posadism Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Mar 22, 2024 |
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For a long time, thanks to the cold war, basic history narrative in the US has downplayed the immense role the USSR played in WW2. It's a good thing to fix that imo. But it's also become an edgy contrarian position to say that the US did nothing and the soviets won single handedly, usually from the kind of person who thinks they're the first person to realize the US is actually bad and they're determined to blow all the normies' minds with this fact.
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Byzantine posted:This is specifically for the Gohan vs Cell analogy. To follow the analogy to its logical conclusion: Britain is Vegeta
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Much like maps, Dragonball is an almost universal language. A Buttery Pastry posted:Sorry, you're absolutely right then. See, this guy gets it.
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Vegeta is Yugoslavian, Marmite is British
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Is Mr. Satan Poland or France in this analogy? Edit: stupid swipey text Jean-Paul Shartre fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 22, 2024 |
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Is Mr. Saturn Poland or France in this analogy? France. Got slapped aside immediately, technically helped, took credit with shameless self-promotion.
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steinrokkan posted:Vegeta is Yugoslavian, Marmite is British Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Is Mr. Saturn Poland or France in this analogy?
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I wasn't trying to say the USSR beat the nazis singlehandedly, just that they played a larger role in winning than any other single nation and they probably would have had a better shot at winning without us than we would without them.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Saturn??? boing
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alnilam posted:For a long time, thanks to the cold war, basic history narrative in the US has downplayed the immense role the USSR played in WW2. It's a good thing to fix that imo. But it's also become an edgy contrarian position to say that the US did nothing and the soviets won single handedly, usually from the kind of person who thinks they're the first person to realize the US is actually bad and they're determined to blow all the normies' minds with this fact. It’s that slavery-states rights-slavery meme about the US Civil War. Except it’s WW2 in American, and they stopped at step 2. They were taught Hollywood History, and were the first American on Earth to realize the USSR fought and killed the most Nazis. Then it devolves into ideas such as China, the US, and British India did nothing. Japan surrendered immediately because of the USSR. Manchuria wasn’t one of the nails in the coffin, nothing mattered till  Please ignore the thoughts of Japanese command.
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soviet elsa posted:It’s that slavery-states rights-slavery meme about the US Civil War. Except it’s WW2 in American, and they stopped at step 2. They were taught Hollywood History, and were the first American on Earth to realize the USSR fought and killed the most Nazis. OK Edgar Allen Ho. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Japan and the USSR were workshopping a separate peace plan, which was one of the many ghoulish reasons Truman dropped the b9mb.
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I had to read A Separate Peace in highschool and it made me want to blow some poo poo up too.
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Thats... thats not part of that novel at all. Did you go to a high school for extremely clever boys who think good?
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I don't even actually hate the book that much, but most of my friends really, really hated it and I wanted to make a joke about it being terrible. Also, I just remembered we read it in middle school, not high school, which is probably the reason so many classmates hated it.
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gently caress is happening in here
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I like mid century realism, so i dont hate that book. The problem is that it is a morality play directed at adolescent boys. Teenagers hate adults telling them what tp do.
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:I like mid century realism, so i dont hate that book. The problem is that it is a morality play directed at adolescent boys. Teenagers hate adults telling them what tp do. i havent read the book, and also i prefer early modern breakthrough over mid century realism. latter can be good but is more often very not. anyway, i just wanted to say that i hear all your posts in this delivery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T2S8GHzxqc
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EasilyConfused posted:gently caress is happening in here an exploration of shared childhood trauma
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So the american lend-lease argument is to WW2 what the states rights argument is to the american civil war? Am I understanding this correctly?
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Did lend-lease lead to something equivalent to Jim Crow?
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Jehde posted:So the american lend-lease argument is to WW2 what the states rights argument is to the american civil war? Am I understanding this correctly? No, no. To help you understand, lend lease is Kenshin, the Soviets are the angels from Evangelion, the US is Akira, and the UK is those spider tanks from Ghost in the Shell. And the Nazis are Vash the Stampede’s brother. E: for a slightly less poo poo post, I’ve been playing one of those daily games that might appeal to a fair number of people here: https://www.timeguessr.com - click on the daily if you want to play with someone else and you’ll try and match the same 5 photos to a specific place and year. Fun for history and map people. It’s extremely "rich West" (particularly European)-centric for the photos, but there are occasionally Arab, Indian, East Asian, and Latin American photos. The daily resets every day at 9:00am CET. Some Dutch or Flemish guy made it, I guess hence the particular focus on Western European culture and history. Saladman fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Japan and the USSR were workshopping a separate peace plan, which was one of the many ghoulish reasons Truman dropped the b9mb. This is a wildly misunderstood description of what happened. There was almost no progress in those talks because only a handful in Japan's government even knew Sato was talking with the Russians about mediation. Stalin was only playing along because they were gearing up to attack Japan on Aug 15th because they wanted their own piece of the pie from them before the American's forced a surrender. But no there was no peace plan truly being workshopped with either side taking it seriously.
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Saladman posted:E: for a slightly less poo poo post, I’ve been playing one of those daily games that might appeal to a fair number of people here: https://www.timeguessr.com - click on the daily if you want to play with someone else and you’ll try and match the same 5 photos to a specific place and year. Fun for history and map people. It’s extremely "rich West" (particularly European)-centric for the photos, but there are occasionally Arab, Indian, East Asian, and Latin American photos. The daily resets every day at 9:00am CET. Some Dutch or Flemish guy made it, I guess hence the particular focus on Western European culture and history.
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