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Creature posted:Anyway, I don’t recommend rural Australian public schools to anybody. Attended a bunch of lovely bush/rural schools. Can confirm.
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ApplesandOranges posted:AITA for telling my husband to have kids with someone who looks like him? Are these Americans, because she's basically describing different kinds of white people.
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keep punching joe posted:Are these Americans, because she's basically describing different kinds of white people. Welcome to the exciting world of European racism.
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To be fair, it's not like America wasn't racist against the various immigrants we have now accepted as white, like the Italians and the Irish. They were The Other until they assimilated enough to be accepted into American whiteness. Garlic used to be a disgusting immigrant food. What a sad world it was. America's 'cultural melting pot' is just that we were successful at making people abandon their own culture to join the dominant American culture of the time, and we sorted them within our cultural hierarchy accordingly when they did. So various nationalities that are considered separate things elsewhere in the world became bog standard whiteness here. But they are still considered non-white elsewhere. Bc whiteness is a status, not a race, and the rules for who 'counts' as white are different in different places. The only consistent rule is that only the people considered white currently are the ones who can grant white status to others. They're the gatekeepers. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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StrangersInTheNight posted:To be fair, it's not like America wasn't racist against the various immigrants we have now accepted as white, like the Italians and the Irish. They were The Other until they assimilated enough to be accepted into American whiteness. I have mentioned this before, but I grew up in a heavily Scandinavian-settled part of America, and I absolutely had the belief that Italians weren't white. Like, saw a trailer for the Spike Lee movie Jungle Fever about a black man and an Italian-American woman, and legit wondered when he was going to meet the white woman everyone was so concerned about. It wasn't like I sat through formal racism indoctrination or anything, it was just decades of exposure through casual family conversations and local media. Racism is weird man. (I try to be better now about recognizing and adjusting for internal biases.)
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nobody better be thinking that Americans can't be weird about that right now, too. it is, as she noted, part of the current rise of neonazi bullshit, but it also never really went away. thinking blond blue-eyed white people are whiter and therefore better (and definitely prettier and more feminine and princesslike for girls) than darker haired brown eyed white people is a fairly common unspoken bias based in racism
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Oh absolutely. It's the stuff that makes me cackle when someone tries to claim Europe is less racist. What no, they invented it, we just give it our own spin bc of we have to be that way, we're America.
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It's become a lot more obvious lately that a lot of people were really only pretending not to be racist.
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ApplesandOranges posted:AITA for telling my husband to have kids with someone who looks like him? His and is like "hehe, this family is so great. Hey wife. I'm going to easily "win" this family because I'll produce the best and most beautiful children. Then we are kings of this family"
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StrangersInTheNight posted:To be fair, it's not like America wasn't racist against the various immigrants we have now accepted as white, like the Italians and the Irish. They were The Other until they assimilated enough to be accepted into American whiteness. Garlic used to be a disgusting immigrant food. What a sad world it was. Uh, just so you know, the "they assimilated and was therefore accepted as Americans" thing is considered "problematic" nowadays, as the kids say. Equality was no granted but fought for. For Irish immigrants for example, a pivotal moment was when they seized control of Tammany Hall in NYC, through which they were able to exert influence on Democratic politics in the state of NY and the Northeast. The other was that Irish clergymen were able seize control of American Catholic institutions that was traditionally ran by the French and Germans, and was thus able to create parallel institutions like Catholic schools, Catholic universities, and Catholic hospitals that bypassed discriminatory public institutions. Neither were incidental, both were active effort with the goal of advancing Irish interests in America. After 11 Italian immigrants were lynched in New Orleans, the Italian government cut diplomatic ties with the US, and there were fears that Italians in US cities would riot. There was a successful national anti-lynching (of Italians) campaign and Columbus Day was made a holiday mostly to placate Italian Americans and the Italian government. And all of this was underpinned by good ol' anti-Black racism. By the 1890s the fight to restrict European immigration was already lost. Now the priority is to fight organised labour in the north. Jim Crow had made life impossible for black people in rural South, and they began to move to Northern cities in large numbers in the early 1900s. As they obtained industrial jobs, the fear was that they would swell the ranks of trade unions. So as European immigrants were gaining acceptance, anti-Black racism was actively cultivated among these group, in order to prevent the formation of class solidarity. It's not so much that "they were accepted," but rather "the power that be that fought tooth and nail against their acceptance eventually acquiesced to their demands for equality in order to fight organised labour." Shanghaied fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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Troublemaker posted:AITAH for "destroying" my daughters future by taking her out of her current school because her and her friend group were bullying other kids? On the whole, I support where this guy is coming from, but his dad is right. Taking extra-curricular and schedule out of the equation, the education is probably better and will serve his daughter better in the long run. And his view of charity and volunteer work is also missing a key piece. He wants his daughter to develop empathy but won't force her into situations where that can be learned? Take her to serve food weekly or provide child care at a homeless shelter, and spend the time with her as well doing it. The more I think about it, the more I feel this guy's view of discipline is whatever he actually has to do the least to implement.
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AITA for sleeping in on my GFs birthday?quote:I (M25) have been dating my GF (f22) for about 2 months and she got extremely upset with me after sleeping in on her birthday Man I too miss being 22 and had nothing to do except studying and hanging out.
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BrideOfUglycat posted:On the whole, I support where this guy is coming from, but his dad is right. Taking extra-curricular and schedule out of the equation, the education is probably better and will serve his daughter better in the long run. And his view of charity and volunteer work is also missing a key piece. He wants his daughter to develop empathy but won't force her into situations where that can be learned? Take her to serve food weekly or provide child care at a homeless shelter, and spend the time with her as well doing it. "I took away all her fancy toys, what more parenting could I possibly do??"
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Another story of someone exploiting friends as free childcare: AITAH for refusing to babysit my friends rude child? quote:I (f) have been helping a friend out by looking after her child and fitting my life around her schedule for the past 4 months. (5 hours on days I work and 8 on my only day off) The OP posted:She pays me what she can. Its usually around £30-60 a week. 38 hours a week for £30-60??? Forget about the rude child, why would you ever agree to this???
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Shanghaied posted:AITA for sleeping in on my GFs birthday? Just walk away.
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Shanghaied posted:AITA for sleeping in on my GFs birthday? Good thing she played her cards too early and the guy can bounce without worrying about sunk cost.
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Shanghaied posted:
Oh 100%, I oversimplified to keep it short, the process of how they were 'accepted' into American whiteness is a process littered with bodies and blood. It was not an easy or simple process and as you mentioned, a lot of the shift happened to shore up sentiment against black people and divide class solidarity. Sadly tho it worked - accepting those folks as white has firmly entrenched many of them as part of the machinery of whiteness in America. There is a significant amount who stop being persecuted and with their new elevated social status, become the persecutors. Essentially, raising them to a higher social status of white to recruit them to protect whiteness worked. So there's room for both realities - that they were, horribly abused and mistreated as a people, and that mistreatment stops when they becomes elevated to white and 'accepted'. The abuse being so bad is part of how then drawing them to the other side of whiteness works so well. And enough time has gone by with them on the 'accepted' side and gleefully punching down to keep themselves elevated that their past history of not being accepted doesn't make it better, it makes it worse that this is how it all ended up. Understandable, but loving sad because undoing over 100 years of 'at least we're better than the blacks' sentiment in people who value their whiteness isssss a difficult process. This is really reductive but to me it's kinda like Israel and Palestine. Israel is fully doing a genocide; it doesn't mean they too weren't once the target of a genocide, but having been subject to a genocide isn't something that excuses what they're doing, now that they have the power and political allies to do so. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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quote:She even told me later that negative reinforcement works better. This line woulda had me outta there so fast there’d be a me-shaped cloud left in my place
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The Maroon Hawk posted:This line woulda had me outta there so fast there’d be a me-shaped cloud left in my place Yeah I read that and was like "oh buddy, it is time to leave"
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BrideOfUglycat posted:On the whole, I support where this guy is coming from, but his dad is right. Taking extra-curricular and schedule out of the equation, the education is probably better and will serve his daughter better in the long run. And his view of charity and volunteer work is also missing a key piece. He wants his daughter to develop empathy but won't force her into situations where that can be learned? Take her to serve food weekly or provide child care at a homeless shelter, and spend the time with her as well doing it. I feel like he's also projecting a lot of his hurt and emotions from an acrimonious divorce on his daughter. Public schools can provide a fine level of education without the rich-person bullshit of private institutions, though.
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Shanghaied posted:AITA for sleeping in on my GFs birthday? I thought this was going to be one of those stories where dude decided to stay out all night the night before and blew off something that was important to her. "I was tired from crazy amounts of work, so I slept for a few extra hours, then went to do cool stuff with you, also we didn't have any specific timeline planned" is very much not a case of an uncaring boyfriend. I think she's some combination of immature and self-centered and dude should have a Serious Talk about this soon. EDIT: I didn't catch "She even told me later that negative reinforcement works better." on my first read, that makes it much worse since it pushes the line way more to 'self centered' than 'just immature'.
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The Serious Talk in question: “lol I’m out, later ✌️”
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WIBTA for asking my father to stop peeing in the bathroom sink?quote:I (22F) live with my Dad (59M), and I recently found out that he pees in the bathroom sink. This is all by ear since my bedroom is right next to the bathroom. I used to think he would just go in there and quickly rinse off his hands throughout the day, but I realized it is actually him peeing. I can hear the stream followed by a few splashes to rinse off the sink. While conventionally thought to be most prevalent for men in their twenties, please be aware that grosspeedudeitis can develop at any age
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AITA to call my brother in law out for copying our honeymoon itinerary for his own holiday ?quote:My husband and I have already planned and booked our honeymoon trip to Japan in November. Reddit is full of YTA, but I 100% get their point "We're not travelling at all, well actually we're travelling on your MILs dime doing the exact same thing that you planned only a week earlier so that we win" It's 100% about the sibling rivalry.
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WIBTA if I refused to give my parents 25% of my wages?quote:Hello everyone, I want some advice and insight before I bring this up to my parents. Parents are probably a couple of diehard Tories trying to teach son a lesson on the twin evils of taxation and welfare. "See, our high tax and generous welfare has disincentivised you to work! Society works the same way!" Shanghaied fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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Shanghaied posted:WIBTA if I refused to give my parents 25% of my wages? Yes to tories but I imagine they're probably ashamed that one of their children has done something as working class as working rather than trying to teach any actual lesson.
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Shanghaied posted:AITA for sleeping in on my GFs birthday? YTA, don't agree to host if you can't do it
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Shanghaied posted:WIBTA if I refused to give my parents 25% of my wages? YTA, the lesson is your parents are assholes and you should have noticed that way before now.
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Vim Fuego posted:YTA, don't agree to host if you can't do it Uhh where do you get that from? quote:Last week I had to fly out for 5 days on a business trip. They ended up scheduling it on top of her birthday after I agreed to host it. I fought to rework the entire project schedule and got multiple other people to change plans just so I could be back in time for the day of her birthday and then the party the next day. He flew back 2 days before the day of the party...
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The Maroon Hawk posted:This line woulda had me outta there so fast there’d be a me-shaped cloud left in my place I *think* he's saying that his ex (who his current girlfriend is starting to remind him of) told him that as their relationship was ending. But it's written in a way that's hard to parse.
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Hughlander posted:AITA to call my brother in law out for copying our honeymoon itinerary for his own holiday ? Wow, the brother is a psycho
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Could have been worse. Usually in these stories the rear end in a top hat family books the trips to be at the same times and tries to make it a group trip.
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AITA for telling my stepson he is an unchristian spoiled brat?quote:I (35 Female) married my husband (38 Male) 10 years ago. The resentment, the jealousy, the sheer hate from OP is palpable
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AITAH for my reaction after finding out my ex cheated on me?quote:So i have been with my ex (Lara) for 6 years and we were living together since 3. Our relationship was amazing (to my POV) we were deeply in love, romantic to each other, had arguments even heated but we always solved everything by talking to each other so for real no problems until 2 weeks ago. Real Pete energy here. I originally miss-read it that it was 2 days after finding the ex was cheating but it was more like 12 days. Either way live your best life stranger.
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA for telling my stepson he is an unchristian spoiled brat? True, and while some of it is probably earned over time, she's directing it the wrong way. Honestly, I absolutely despise my husband's ex. She was and still is an abusive, narcissistic piece of poo poo who loved/loves wielding the kids as weapons. We went 4+ years without seeing the kids at all due to parental alienation. I celebrated when child support ended because it was a huge drain on our house's resources and she was going around telling people we weren't paying at all. I absolutely understand and empathize where she's coming from with the son. But it isn't the son's fault either and now she's reinforced the lessons the mother taught him. Any chance he could recognize what happened is gone now, for at least another decade. She can be angry, and those feelings are absolutely valid, but what she did just added gas to the fire. Nothing's fixed, everything's worse, and nobody is happy except the spiteful ex who got you to torture the kid for her.
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA for telling my stepson he is an unchristian spoiled brat? but what kind of toothpaste comes in bottles
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What did any of that have to do with Christianity again?
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The son wanted to be a minister for children (Presumably the religious kind, not the politician kind). To a certain type of person, Christian = good, so a bad person is not Christian enough to be a minister. Of course, we're only getting OP's side of things, but if that story is them painting themselves in the BEST light...
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Grey Cat posted:What did any of that have to do with Christianity again? If anything it sounds a lot like the parable of the vineyard workers
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA for telling my stepson he is an unchristian spoiled brat? I looked over this a few times trying to figure out how OP was basically mind controlled into never seeing those kids or whatever and realized that child support ends at 18, right? I love that so much for OP
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