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The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
No gbs uk thread? Where will we discuss best bread now?

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kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

we established that tiger bread is the best bread, moreso than tescos upstart giraffe bread

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Wachter posted:

When I worked as a Housing Benefit assessor we had access to a DWP system that let you look up people by national insurance number to confirm things like Income Support and Child Benefit without them providing paperwork. There was a limited search function, the use of which was discouraged. During training we were told that every single record access was logged, that a random check could be performed on any record access, that said random check had to be backed up by a written submission to the DWP proving the reason for access, that certain records were flagged to always require checks, and that being unable to satisfy the check was more or less guaranteed instant dismissal. People still got sacked for looking up their mates and random celebs. The temptation is too strong for some.

We had something similar when I temped in a benefits office in NI, except you couldn't even look up details of people who were on a protected status. I can't remember the procedure exactly as I never had to do it, but I think it involved filling out a request form, getting it approved by someone senior, and receiving a one-time code to view their record. And this was a system that ran in a UNIX terminal that was likely a relic from the 1970s.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
given a sub roll is the ideal bread form factor for a sandwich, why is it so fuckin hard to buy them in the uk. outside of subway obv

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Nuclear Spoon posted:

given a sub roll is the ideal bread form factor for a sandwich, why is it so fuckin hard to buy them in the uk. outside of subway obv

Like a short baguette? Loads of places sell those

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
a baguette is not a sub roll

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Failed Imagineer posted:

God has no power there

I remember doing an Open University course where the first module contained a video on how Milton Keynes was built on Druidic principles. Genuinely quite fascinating.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Nuclear Spoon posted:

a baguette is not a sub roll

What is it then?

google seems confused

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Mar 23, 2024

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Just use a pannini.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

So this happened
https://twitter.com/NelloStillKnows/status/1771556132269486398
:allears:

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
I guess torpedo rolls are close, but yeah almost 30cm of bread roll that is soft is hard to come by

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Hard bread makes good times, good times make soft bread, soft bread makes bad times, bad times make hard bread.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I want to know where to buy pretzel rolls/buns. Starbucks use them for some of their sandwiches, and they’re nice for burgers, but sold nowhere. :(

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Darth Walrus posted:

I remember doing an Open University course where the first module contained a video on how Milton Keynes was built on Druidic principles. Genuinely quite fascinating.

I learned this from a video by Mr Biffo, the guy who used to write the Digitiser computer games pages on teletext.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Lay lines or whatever?

Didn't think the druids were that into roundabouts

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

A henge is a kind of roundabout.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Woah. Good point they should rebrand them back to that

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
Did you know Milton Keynes is named after neither Milton, nor Keynes

Edit: Someone told me this and it was only when I hit enter on this post I thought "wait, surely that's bullshit" and sure enough...

Isomermaid fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 23, 2024

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Update: it still sucks.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
It's got an IKEA. That's got to count for something.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The IKEA is closed and I am starving at a restaurant.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Milton Keynes is where parliament should go when they have to do up the old one

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Tesseraction posted:

The IKEA is closed and I am starving at a restaurant.

Is it the sort of chain restaurant you get close to a Brewdog? Cocktail offers, loud music and extremely mediocre plates of Doritos covered in jalapenos, grated cheddar and sour cream? Where you're never quite sure if the interminable wait for food is just 'cos they're disorganised, or if they've genuinely forgotten about you? Commiserations if so.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/22/labour-party-selection-sam-tarry-angela-rayner/

quote:

Labour threatened with legal action over ‘voter fraud’

Sam Tarry, Angela Rayner’s former partner, claims online voting system has been used to disadvantage Left-wing candidates


The Labour Party is facing legal action from Angela Rayner’s former partner over alleged “voter fraud”.

Lawyers acting for Sam Tarry, the MP for Ilford South, have written to the party over claims that an online voting system has been used to disadvantage Left-wing candidates.

Mr Tarry, whose relationship with Labour’s deputy leader ended last year, claims the Anonyvoter system was used to harm his unsuccessful attempt to be re-selected for the general election.

Anonyvoter is a software for holding online votes that is widely used by local Labour Party branches to decide who will be their candidate for the next election.

Mr Tarry lost to Jas Athwal in a selection vote in October 2022 and has been disputing the result since.

He is now considering issuing legal proceedings to force Labour to publish the Anonyvoter records from his selection or even to get an injunction to block Mr Athwal from being the official Ilford South candidate.

Trade unions are helping Mr Tarry raise tens of thousands of pounds, which will help fund legal action if an agreement with the party is not reached.

Meanwhile, a second Labour MP, Beth Winter, who represents Cynon Valley, has been exchanging legal letters with the party over how Anonyvoter was used in her selection race.

Ms Winter sought to become the candidate in a newly created Welsh seat last summer, but lost. Her lawyers wrote to the party raising concerns about the use of the Anonyvoter system both before and after the result.

This week, she has written to senior figures in Welsh Labour widening her complaint beyond online voting and demanding an investigation.

Vote breakdowns seen by The Telegraph show that both candidates did better than their rivals among the voters who took part either in person or by post, but worse among those who cast their ballot on Anonyvoter. Such records are not made public.

Mr Tarry and Ms Winter are both members of the Socialist Campaign Group, the most prominent Left-wing group in the Commons, which includes Jeremy Corbyn.

It's good to see the party getting some pushback, but is it really worth the fight, beyond exposing their dirty tricks in the courts? Why would any socialist want to be a Labour MP these days?

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Just had my door buzzed by labour canvassers. (We have intercom thing for the flats).
"We're canvassing on behalf of the Labour party"
"Oh, I'm not voting Labour"
Silence as she doesn't know how to deal with that (probably knows I'm a former member).
Me: "I'm not voting for genocide, sorry".

Ed: I decided to say that because of all the supposed reports that 'on the doorsteps, Corbyn was the reason people weren't going to vote Labour' feedback from 2019 canvas. Well they can know that Starmer is the reason this time.

Does the political plan of Not Voting Labour extend anywhere beyond that? Owen Jones communicated something approaching a plan but his take was still pretty weak.

I genuinely think the entire project of the UK left now should be Proportional Representation, ally with the Greens, Reform, whoever is also getting hosed by FPTP. Feels like an open door right now and it's the only way lefties can actually achieve meaningful change. Raging about how the Labour Party is not a useful vehicle anymore is like, yeah no poo poo? so why make them the focus at all.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Vitamin P posted:

Does the political plan of Not Voting Labour extend anywhere beyond that? Owen Jones communicated something approaching a plan but his take was still pretty weak.

I genuinely think the entire project of the UK left now should be Proportional Representation, ally with the Greens, Reform, whoever is also getting hosed by FPTP. Feels like an open door right now and it's the only way lefties can actually achieve meaningful change. Raging about how the Labour Party is not a useful vehicle anymore is like, yeah no poo poo? so why make them the focus at all.

I will vote either for Green or Plaid Cymru depending on what candidates stand.

I don't think people will coalesce around alternatives to Labour this time round, but the more people who do, the more people might be encouraged to do so. The best I can hope for this time round is a hung parliament.

Local friends who have quit Labour are torn between voting for them to Get The Tories Out on, what I believe, is the deluded notion that Starmer will move leftwards once in power, or vote for green or plaid. I don't know what other parties might stand round here, and I always forget the LibDems exist - but I classify them as a branch of tory anyway because they have always (not just when Corbyn was LOTO) refused to work with Labour while happy to stand with the tories.

A labour party led by Starmer, Reeves & Streeting is no friend to the citizenry.

One of my friends quit Labour because he along with others in the Welsh labour 'family' (I can't remember exactly who he mentioned maybe Welsh Grassroots? But don't quote me on that!) had worked hard on motions relating to PR for a long time, and Starmer stamped on the lot. That's when he decided that the notion of work from the inside to change the party was never going to work.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Mar 23, 2024

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Vitamin P posted:

Does the political plan of Not Voting Labour extend anywhere beyond that? Owen Jones communicated something approaching a plan but his take was still pretty weak.

I genuinely think the entire project of the UK left now should be Proportional Representation, ally with the Greens, Reform, whoever is also getting hosed by FPTP. Feels like an open door right now and it's the only way lefties can actually achieve meaningful change. Raging about how the Labour Party is not a useful vehicle anymore is like, yeah no poo poo? so why make them the focus at all.

the greens and lib dems don't runs my consituency, so for me it's basically just voting for any decent seeming independants.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Vitamin P posted:

ally with ... Reform

:psyduck:

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

also i just went on a dive to find out the last tory to win my constiuency was... Harold Macmillan lol

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Sir Jeffrey Donaldson: Man taken off flight after row with DUP leader



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68647494

wee jeffrey getting a hard time from the big toe heads he spend a couple of years tub thumping with hehehe

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
although it could have been just a weird bloke who wanted his autograph because he thought he was daniel o'donnell, and wasn't having any of this "i'm not him" nonsense

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I will vote either for Green or Plaid Cymru depending on what candidates stand.

I don't think people will coalesce around alternatives to Labour this time round, but the more people who do, the more people might be encouraged to do so. The best I can hope for this time round is a hung parliament.

Local friends who have quit Labour are torn between voting for them to Get The Tories Out on, what I believe, is the deluded notion that Starmer will move leftwards once in power, or vote for green or plaid. I don't know what other parties might stand round here, and I always forget the LibDems exist - but I classify them as a branch of tory anyway because they have always (not just when Corbyn was LOTO) refused to work with Labour while happy to stand with the tories.

A labour party led by Starmer, Reeves & Streeting is no friend to the citizenry.

One of my friends quit Labour because he along with others in the Welsh labour 'family' (I can't remember exactly who he mentioned maybe Welsh Grassroots? But don't quote me on that!) had worked hard on motions relating to PR for a long time, and Starmer stamped on the lot. That's when he decided that the notion of work from the inside to change the party was never going to work.

My current constituency has always been Tory so will vote for Labour to kick them out.

My point is that with FPTP there will never be any alternative to coalesce around. The Corbyn movement was the last time lefties were able to have political influence, the role of Starmer et al at is to block the Labour Party as a vehicle for positive political change. There's no point even talking about Labour, or Welsh Labour or whatever, we need to change the electoral system to PR. It's a big fight but it's the only fight that matters and luckily it's winnable and not dependent on electoralism.


A Democratic Alliance would involve Reform and their voters, yes. The alternative is Starmers acolytes vs Penny Mordaunt tories literally forever.

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Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

ItohRespectArmy posted:

the greens and lib dems don't runs my consituency, so for me it's basically just voting for any decent seeming independants.

That's cool, throw your vote away on an independent that will lose. But in the meantime maybe put time into pushing the open door of electoral reform so your next vote might actually matter.

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Vitamin P posted:

That's cool, throw your vote away on an independent that will lose. But in the meantime maybe put time into pushing the open door of electoral reform so your next vote might actually matter.

how about you make a vote that gets you some bitches

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Vitamin P posted:

That's cool, throw your vote away on an independent that will lose. But in the meantime maybe put time into pushing the open door of electoral reform so your next vote might actually matter.

There'll be no electoral reform under a Starmer-led majority government.

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/27/keir-starmer-now-opposes-scrapping-westminsters-voting-system-for-pr-in-blow-for-reformers/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/24/keir-starmer-defies-call-for-changes-to-first-past-the-post-voting-system

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/keir-starmer-labour-proportional-representation-b2329451.html

https://nation.cymru/news/voting-reform-not-a-priority-for-labour-says-starmer/

Eddy-Baby
Mar 8, 2006

₤₤LOADSA MONAY₤₤
A leader without principles would make big promises and then just quietly water down or drop them once elected

But enough about the labour leadership election, that was years ago now

franco
Jan 3, 2003

Runcible Cat posted:

Good luck! I'm 4 sessions into chemo, but my neutrophil count keeps dropping below optimum so I've had to have a couple delayed. Bloody annoying, I want to get this over with.

crispix posted:

i do hope you recover franco


Thank you :glomp:

Sending good vibes to all affected now or in the future and those around them too.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

fuctifino posted:

I've watched the Kate video a few times now, and something that I can't unsee is not a single plant appears to move during the entire video.

Mostly UKMT has been pretty good on all this, making jokes, pointing out how absurd the whole situation is, mocking the shockingly poo poo PR, dialling it back a bit when it turns out that, yeah, cancer is poo poo, and generally being fairly normal.

But loving hell, fuctifino's relentless conspiracy bullshit and regurgitation of the absolute worst twitter bullshit is exhausting

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Niric posted:

Mostly UKMT has been pretty good on all this, making jokes, pointing out how absurd the whole situation is, mocking the shockingly poo poo PR, dialling it back a bit when it turns out that, yeah, cancer is poo poo, and generally being fairly normal.

But loving hell, fuctifino's relentless conspiracy bullshit and regurgitation of the absolute worst twitter bullshit is exhausting

The dude takes big hits of high power exotic strains of weed from a literal liquid cooled cyberbong. Let him have his bit of stoner thinking now and again

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Niric posted:

Mostly UKMT has been pretty good on all this, making jokes, pointing out how absurd the whole situation is, mocking the shockingly poo poo PR, dialling it back a bit when it turns out that, yeah, cancer is poo poo, and generally being fairly normal.

But loving hell, fuctifino's relentless conspiracy bullshit and regurgitation of the absolute worst twitter bullshit is exhausting

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