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cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

:shepicide:

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redshirt
Aug 11, 2007


If it's worth anything, I agree with all your Rothko comments. I loved seeing them in person and it did, like a switch, change me from mocking them.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

lol cumpantry is gonna have an aneurysm itt

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Nor with Green and Tangerine on Red, it is legit beautiful one-on-one in a well-curated space. It's also very easy to see how someone could be in its presence and not become an instant convert to the transformative power of Art, and notable that nobody gets like this about any of the thousands of contemporary living artists working in the same techniques and ideas, producing near-identical paintings for 60 years. Cause it's not really about the painting at all, is it?

I mentioned Rothko because hes an almost universally recogized painter and a good jumping off point for a discussion around folks who devalue art, music, fashion, food, etc.

People 100% "get like that" about other artists. Patricia Picaninni's "Curious Affection" got my mai waife and I right in the feels when we saw it last year.

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

when exactly did the Rothko chapel become the Infinite Jest of guys who wanna be perceived as aesthetes, do you think?

Wtf does this mean lol?

Its not about wanting to be "viewed as an asthete" or whatever on the something awful dot com forums.

If I had said Willem de Kooning, Joan Mitchell, or mentioned Pewabic Pottery, less people are likely to pick up on the gist of the argument, which also holds true for their works.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

AI is cool. Corporations and the wealthy stealing all the benefits of it will not be cool.

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf
Wonder how long now until infinite jest becomes a kind of reality.

"Computer, generate New Seinfeld Subway Episode but Elaine is stuck in the everest death zone behind a bunch of climbers making GBS threads their guts out"

I mean poo poo (pun intended) I'd watch the poo poo out of that if it comes even somewhat close to the original. Hell, make it a 2 hour action movie. Hmm now that I've seen that I want an adaptation of the movie, but in a slow burn 8 episode miniseries format to really absorb it all.

Hey computer, here are some songs that always give me shivers of delight down my spine - make me a 24/7 radio station where I can listen and vote on endless variations of completely synthesized music in their style.

But what do we do when the music can't get better, man??

Really sleep deprived here btw

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Rothko is just a quick cipher to understand someone's interest in the process or experience of works of art not least of all because everyone is tired of hearing about Rothko and will say "shut up nerd I just like looking at neat pictures" if they are not very interested in process and experience.

Transformer pictures do have a novel experience aspect where you can prompt something personal to you and whoa it made one just like you said. The process of all the household names i.e. stealing every picture off the internet leaves a little to be desired.

A prolific enough collective could theoretically steer the process in the right direction by willingly feeding their artwork into the grinder to build an ethical model under the collective's control and then do novel things like get the 'opposite' of their average output through transformer tricks like finding isolated or distant nodes to incorporate to outputs.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




just searching the billion opaque weights for isolated and distant nodes to reverse the model output

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Well yes. Art is a collection of bad ideas that are hard and take too long to make something that's probably ugly. Sometimes its not and then someone completely unrelated to you 50 years later gets rich.

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf
It's kind of funny how most artists have to die from poverty or commit suicide before their art sells for Trillions of dollars at Auction howse

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Art: Like, what the heck?!

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf

redshirt posted:

Art: Like, what the heck?!

I only understand it because I asked ChatGpt to summize the entirety of it in 20 broken words

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

AI has done more in a couple of years than "art" has done in millennia. It's really amazing and I can't wait to see what's next!

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Mar 23, 2024

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf

Duck and Cover posted:

Ai has done more in a couple of years than "art" has done in millennia. It's really amazing and I can't wait to see what's next!

Ngl stable diffusion can generate shockingly good sloppy furry porn these days with a custom model. Guessing it's because of the absolute autistic level of keywords used on picture hosting sites.

Erect nipples. Fangs. Piss-visor.

There are people who train models on popular artists' art and sell a dozen 'custom' quickly prompted diffusions for 5-10 bucks, based on your fursona or whatever

Would not want to be an artist these days, at least in the hyperprofitable porn space. It's dyinnn

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

the holy poopacy posted:

movies have been doing AI-generated crowds for 20+ years.

Ooh I stumbled over this tweet again
https://twitter.com/_ChristopherM/status/1712487958807253126




(To be fair those appear to be CG extras and not AI extras)

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

I've been preparing for AI since 1984

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

redshirt posted:

I've been preparing for AI since 1984

John Connor is safe

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

John Connor is safe

Since 1984 you've been asking: Where is John Connor?

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

redshirt posted:

Since 1984 you've been asking: Where is John Connor?

Southern California, near Tijuana

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

Southern California, near Tijuana

Jesus Christ dude are you a narc??

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

redshirt posted:

Jesus Christ dude are you a narc??

I wish!

Borscht
Jun 4, 2011

Duck and Cover posted:



You haven't really acknowledged that you've seen the lobster.

I turned it off around halfway through. Dogtooth was more engaging although it was a pretty interesting. Got me thinking of connection and expectation. Idk if that was the intention or not.

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
when did this become the Debating Rothko Megathread

Wendigee posted:

Everyone I work with Is getting forced to use ai integration if they code and everyone hates it who isn't just starting out. Lol.

I heard they pay 4k a month for each GitHub account that has it and they get charged per PR that uses it. Lol. Lmao.

In other news we just killed a service that cost 2000 Dollars a month for the entire company to save money.

Why yes, our new tech officer is also really into Bitcoin. Lol to infinity.

I think part of it is that all of our code is proprietary and the ai can't really integrate because it's so old and the other part is old people refusing to try it.

I hear it does nice boiler plate poo poo but that's useless when it needs to integrate with a code base made of popsicle sticks, gum, and some tape.

:sever:

Waffle House posted:

Discouraged veteran oldbies NOT wanting to train their AI replacement are going to cause the general pyramid of professional understanding to tesseract

:dafuq:

AEMINAL posted:

Ngl stable diffusion can generate shockingly good sloppy furry porn these days with a custom model. Guessing it's because of the absolute autistic level of keywords used on picture hosting sites.

Erect nipples. Fangs. Piss-visor.

There are people who train models on popular artists' art and sell a dozen 'custom' quickly prompted diffusions for 5-10 bucks, based on your fursona or whatever

Would not want to be an artist these days, at least in the hyperprofitable porn space. It's dyinnn

what is this ai bullshit even good for?! :ms:

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
i read that Ed Zitron article and then read another one which links to this tweet featuring a Sora video. not super impressed. everything in the video right down to the bedclothes appears to be a The Thing.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1758203473881956689

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Decorating my walls with the sample pictures they include with the frame's packaging at the craft store

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
F-tier room decorator: I shall hang a picture of a lobster on my wall.
B-tier room decorator: I shall hang a Rothko print on my wall.
S-tier room decorator: I shall hang sloppy furry porn on my wall. It will feature piss visors.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

It's gotta be a real, purpose-built piss visor though, last time i tried midjourney it kept giving me some sad fucker taking a leak on a sneezeguard

Lieutenant Dan
Oct 27, 2009

Weedlord Bonerhitler

redshirt posted:

If it's worth anything, I agree with all your Rothko comments. I loved seeing them in person and it did, like a switch, change me from mocking them.

I also didn't get Rothko until I saw one in person. It fully sent me from "huh modern art i guess. whatever" to "holy loving poo poo". My dad explained that color field paintings are meant to be more like hanging out in a room than looking at a picture, and I didn't realize it was so literal until I was face to face with it

Hammerite posted:

when did this become the Debating Rothko Megathread

:colbert:

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Tryna cop a new AI engineered yeti to tip back my AI designed craft beer while copping 🅰️ℹ️I driven breakfast burritos

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
Is there an AI art that can drive you mad just by staring at it?

naem
May 29, 2011

AEMINAL posted:

It's kind of funny how most artists have to die from poverty or commit suicide before their art sells for Trillions of dollars at Auction howse

the fine art industry is mostly a form of money laundering

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003


Outpost22 posted:

Is there an AI art that can drive you mad just by staring at it?

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


Hammerite posted:

i read that Ed Zitron article and then read another one which links to this tweet featuring a Sora video. not super impressed. everything in the video right down to the bedclothes appears to be a The Thing.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1758203473881956689

scored a sweet non-euclidean comforter at Bed Bath and Beyond right before they closed shop

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

I like when people are like "this new technology isn't perfect and so I'm not impressed".

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 24, 2024

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Ooh I stumbled over this tweet again
https://twitter.com/_ChristopherM/status/1712487958807253126




(To be fair those appear to be CG extras and not AI extras)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fD8MX1c92Y

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Outpost22 posted:

Is there an AI art that can drive you mad just by staring at it?
Bing Image Creator accidentally generating The Parrot would be the perfect capper for this screwed-up timeline.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.



Me, upset to a point of logorrhea about capitalism:

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


Duck and Cover posted:

I like when people are like "this new technology isn't perfect and so I'm not impressed".

The problem is that this stuff has to be pretty much perfect in order to work lol.

Like the AI/CGI “actors” in that Disney clip are technically really close to being perfect, but that .1% that’s off is immediately noticeable to people

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Bouillon Rube posted:

The problem is that this stuff has to be pretty much perfect in order to work lol.

Like the AI/CGI “actors” in that Disney clip are technically really close to being perfect, but that .1% that’s off is immediately noticeable to people

AI is a tool, it doesn't guarantee good results and doesn't need to, to be useful.

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Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
what is it useful for

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