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Can someone with wisdom please give me a sanity check on this Thinkpad P14s? It looks like a good deal to me - RAM, current gen, AMD, etc - but I'm not sure if I'm missing something obvious. Don't need a super computer, just something that will last a few years and has a decent battery. I posted in January about possibly getting a Framework but ultimately elected not to.
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 19:42 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 11:28 |
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Nothing wrong with it that I can see. The 7840U/1TB SSD/64GB RAM/3200x1800 OLED version of that was on sale for $1009 last week, and as someone who got that model a few months ago I have been very happy with it. However, there's no telling how long it will be until it goes on sale again and if you don't care about those upgrades then of course there's no point in waiting around. e: It looks like the one you linked also has a 3 year warranty, which is probably worth another $150-200 over the standard 1 year if that's something you would want to buy from Lenovo anyway. Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Mar 22, 2024 |
# ? Mar 22, 2024 20:15 |
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Thanks, I think I'll pick it up then. I did see that deal for the OLED version but I got scared off by reports I saw about the battery life. I'm sure it's fine but at a thousand dollars I am a little more discerning about details.
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 20:35 |
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BONESAWWWWWW posted:Can someone with wisdom please give me a sanity check on this Thinkpad P14s? It looks like a good deal to me - RAM, current gen, AMD, etc - but I'm not sure if I'm missing something obvious. Don't need a super computer, just something that will last a few years and has a decent battery. I posted in January about possibly getting a Framework but ultimately elected not to. Yeah that's great. The 7540 is a really good CPU. The only real "problem" is the 256GB SSD is kinda small, but that's an easy swap or you might be fine with it.
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# ? Mar 22, 2024 20:46 |
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What lower end gaming laptops are at the top of the pack? I’m looking at entry level stuff around the $800 mark to snag a dedicated gpu and replace a bottom of the barrel machine I’ve been using at work.
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 23:10 |
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The Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 (2022) model is on sale for $699 currently. https://shop.asus.com/us/90nr09u1-m00ec0-rog-zephyrus-g14-2022.html
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 23:15 |
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drat, already out of stock.
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 23:43 |
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https://shop.asus.com/us/90nr08a5-m000j0-g513rc.html This is a really good deal, this was a high-end laptop not too long ago https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745673-REG/lenovo_82xv005gus_15_6_loq_15irh8_gaming.html This is alright. Outside of that....uhh, there's not much. You'd want at least a 3060/4050. That G15 up top is a great deal.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 00:55 |
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Lenovo has some deals on their LOQ gaming lineup. They're the more budget oriented machines they sell. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/loq-laptops/lenovo-loq-16aph8/82xu000xus quote:AMD Ryzen™ 7 7840HS Processor (3.80 GHz up to 5.10 GHz) 810USD
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 14:02 |
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drat, you can now get a 4070 with an i7 for $1,200. That's a incredible amount of value and you can pretty much play every game.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 14:59 |
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Gucci Loafers posted:drat, you can now get a 4070 with an i7 for $1,200. That's a incredible amount of value and you can pretty much play every game. Yeah. That's less than what I paid for my 3060 machine a few years ago. And things like DLSS and frame-gen should keep it useful for gaming longer.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 15:53 |
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Note that unlike desktop parts, the laptop 4070 is not much better than the 4060, I think you'd usually see ~10-15% difference between a full power 4060 vs a 4070. 4070 is better but usually not worth a big upcharge for. If everything else is equal, a $900 4060 you replace after 3 years is probably better than a $1200 4070 you replace after 4. The 4080 is a big jump but its also a big price jump.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 16:08 |
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US deals make me so jealous. I’m looking at this 2022 ASUS g14. Between two stacking discounts it comes out to 1.1k euros: https://www.mediamarkt.es/es/produc...me-1530847.html I’m really not familiar with AMD stuff, how does it stack up today? My use case is non-intensive game development (Unity, UE) and whatever gaming at potato quality if need be.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 21:55 |
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The Ryzen 6800HS is still a pretty potent CPU, especially in applications that are multithreaded. The GPU should also be sufficient for a lot of games. Performance should be around a laptop RTX3060 so long as you don't utilize ray-tracing. RT on Radeons is not particularly good compared to their Nvidia counterparts.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 22:23 |
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UncleGuito posted:I'm in the market for a somewhat budget laptop in the sub-$600 range. I was considering the $600 M1 Macbook Air but I have one for work and don't really like macOS. In that price range I think you might consider a Chromebook. You can get a really good bang for your buck, and with Linux support it opens up the apps you can run on them. I've had a couple Chromebook 2-in-1s, and actually used my old one for work-from-home at the start of the pandemic lockdowns, and they can be great as long as you go in aware of their limitations.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 22:27 |
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Mango Polo posted:US deals make me so jealous. I mean, the price delta between that $1500 USD laptop and the $700 laptop is... The price of a round trip ticket to NYC and a hotel room? Might as well get a free international trip out of the deal? Might be cheaper/faster to fly through Miami haven't checked recently
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 22:56 |
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Mid town hotels in nyc start at around 700.
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 00:25 |
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Mango Polo posted:US deals make me so jealous. That seems high even by EU prices. It's a decent laptop and well above potato quality but I feel like you can find better deals.
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 02:09 |
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euphronius posted:Mid town hotels in nyc start at around 700. The cheapest I saw just now was $130 but I didn't look very hard, 48th & 8th Ave midtown Manhattan. I think we paid $200/night for the millennium Hilton overlooking WTC in the financial district. You can obviously pay a lot more than that Don't stay in the financial district, that was a mistake
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 07:02 |
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I've stayed at the actual YCMA last time I was in NYC. It was $700 for a week for a (tiny) room for two. It wasn't as much fun as I was lead to believe, but hell it was on the West Side right near Central Park which was pretty neat. Hostels are also an option for one person but it was $60 for one not great value. I actually try to save some larger purchases like laptops or cameras for when I'm in the US or Asia (HK ideally). Keep in mind that NYC has pretty high sales taxes (which I don't believe you can get refunded like VAT) so ship it to NJ or even better, to NH.
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 11:26 |
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Maxed-out-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P16s-with-4K-OLED-and-64GB-RAM-gets-substantial-59-price-cut.818155.0.html The big boy Thinkpad P16s is on sale now; 7840U, 4K OLED, 64GB ram and a TB of storage for $1,149 with stacking coupons. Grab some nice headphones and you have a cinema in your lap.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 00:16 |
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Ryzen 9 7945HX 16GB RTX 4060 Other than the ram being a a little lower than I'd like am I right in saying this is would keep me decently in gaming for 3 or 4 years?
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Splicer posted:Ryzen 9 7945HX As long as your ok with setting graphic settings down and assuming this isn't 4k, yes probably.
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Lockback posted:As long as your ok with setting graphic settings down and assuming this isn't 4k, yes probably. And yeah I just want to run decent graphics levels and every 17inch+ I can find here with 32gb + 4080 costs quite literally twice as much, or almost twice as much but with a much worse CPU.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 18:58 |
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GPU is going to matter more than CPU. You can find lots of laptops with 4060s for ~$1000 or even less, so while the CPU is nice in this case it's probably not going to make a huge difference. A laptop 4080 is a really nice GPU and will demand a much higher price premium, but that said at that point you may be better off with a desktop solution. 17" laptop is a bit of a niche, have you considered just an external monitor? You can get those even bigger than a 17" laptop for pretty cheap.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 19:39 |
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I unfortunately have niche requirements. I could compromise down a little but for the actually available options it's either 17.3 or 15.6 and 15.6 is just way too small.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 23:21 |
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17" laptops can be really nice for an only computer which is mostly used at a desk or countertop. Might be a good time to grab a Dell XPS 17 on clearance before the new models are out. Those new ones look awful, like they weren't paying attention to Apple's mistakes with laptops 4-8 years ago.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 00:02 |
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UncleGuito posted:The Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 (2022) model is on sale for $699 currently. This appears to be dead but the model with a 6800HS CPU and mobile 6800 GPU (stupid naming convention...) is still up for $799, that's a hell of a deal: https://shop.asus.com/us/90nr09u3-m00hl0-rog-zephyrus-g14-2022.html
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 04:22 |
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Thanks everyone! I've been running on an 17-6700HQ/16gb/Laptop 1060 build for about five years now and all the issues I'm running into are CPU limitations and parts fatigue. I don't play many shooters and such but I love playing poorly optimised simulation games, so CPU is very important and I can pick up and install a few extra gigs of ram for not much. I mainly just want to make sure the 4060 is still considered mid-range rather than mid-low and that nobody had anything terrible to say about the 7945HX.buffbus posted:17" laptops can be really nice for an only computer which is mostly used at a desk or countertop. Might be a good time to grab a Dell XPS 17 on clearance before the new models are out. Those new ones look awful, like they weren't paying attention to Apple's mistakes with laptops 4-8 years ago. I mean I suppose I could shove a beefy home build in a closet and stream to a beater 17 inch... nah, maybe next time.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 13:34 |
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In terms of multithread performance, I think the 7945HX is the fastest laptop processor manufactured to date.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 14:20 |
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Mental Hospitality posted:In terms of multithread performance, I think the 7945HX is the fastest laptop processor manufactured to date. 16 zen4 cores with full L3 probably beats anything else out there for stuff that scales with core count, yeah. Did they they find a way to mitigate the fabric / io idle power draw for these? I assume they must have or they'd get like an hour of battery life.
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VorpalFish posted:16 zen4 cores with full L3 probably beats anything else out there for stuff that scales with core count, yeah. Honestly my big is why I'm getting all this in a non-refurbished Asus ROG from a reputable retailer for under 1,900 (trust me, that's cheap in Ireland). I'm desperately hunting for the other shoe.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 16:10 |
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Looked it up and it's.... real bad. Better than the desktop skus but... Still real bad. I guess they assume people buying DTRs don't care about battery life and.. honestly fair enough.
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Splicer posted:Honestly my big is why I'm getting all this in a non-refurbished Asus ROG from a reputable retailer for under 1,900 (trust me, that's cheap in Ireland). I'm desperately hunting for the other shoe. That's a v. good deal for EU but not crazy. The 4060 is getting long in the tooth and while I don't think there's a fire sale I do think certain retailers are looking to start thinning down existing inventory. It's a good laptop for your needs, pull the trigger.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 16:25 |
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VorpalFish posted:Looked it up and it's.... real bad. Better than the desktop skus but... Still real bad. Lockback posted:That's a v. good deal for EU but not crazy. The 4060 is getting long in the tooth and while I don't think there's a fire sale I do think certain retailers are looking to start thinning down existing inventory.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 17:15 |
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i got bored and ordered a refurbished dell latitude 7210 tablet from ebay its under 2 lb and has 16gb/10th gen i5 and was $300 so we'll see if its any fun
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 15:47 |
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Bought a 14" M3 Pro MBP recently for vacation travel and while I love the battery and speed on it, I've also realized I actually like the Asus Zephyrus G14 I bought last year more. The latter being loaded with a 4090 makes for great gaming but the more surprising thing was I actually prefer the trackpad and keyboard on the Zephyrus. The only thing keeping me on the MBP is the battery life - it's pretty unfortunate that even with the more power efficient AMD chips, x86 Windows laptops struggle to get half of the battery life of Macs.
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 01:23 |
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Macs are a completely different animal. The things that make then have such a great battery life also means they can't run a OS like Windows.
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 01:43 |
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shrike82 posted:Bought a 14" M3 Pro MBP recently for vacation travel and while I love the battery and speed on it, I've also realized I actually like the Asus Zephyrus G14 I bought last year more. The new 2024 G14 supposedly gets 12+ hours of battery life but tops out at a 4070
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change my name posted:The new 2024 G14 supposedly gets 12+ hours of battery life but tops out at a 4070 there's always been a gap between the reviewed and actual battery life of the G14s (and Windows laptops in general). it's intrinsic to Windows and extends to semi-related stuff like suspend working like poo poo. my experience with actual real-life usage of running browser tabs + visual studio code + slack + discord + zoom + spotify gets me 3 hours at best on the G14. i can get above 10 hours on the MBP. to be clear, i'm not loading all the apps all the time - just switching between them and having stuff like spotify in the background. shrike82 fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Apr 1, 2024 |
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