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Watch one of the decon chamber scenes just to experience the ridiculousness.
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There’s probably one full season’s worth of decent-to-good in the first three seasons of the show and then the fourth season has two genuinely good mini-arcs (Vulcan’s Forge, Terra Prime) and two schlocky-but-fun mini-arcs (Soong augments, Mirror eps). I won’t fault anyone for not sticking around long enough to find them all though, it’s very much a show just for completionists.
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I could be wrong but Enterprise also has some running jokes and relationship stuff that aren't as engaging unless you've been following along which doesn't help.
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Mar 23, 2024 04:53
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I really don't hate seasons 1 and 2 of Enterprise. They're not great, but they're hardly the worst Trek ever made. Season 3? loving trash outside of 1-3 episodes that are honestly pretty good. Season 4 has been reductive but alright so far.
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Future Guy should have been a Ferengi who was trying to manipulate events for profit. And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for the meddling hu-mons!
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Mar 23, 2024 05:11
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Future Guy's a potential future who's trying to manipulate the timeline to ensure his own existence. Since he doesn't exist yet, that's why he doesn't have a name, appearance, or clear motivations!
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Mar 23, 2024 05:33
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I don't think I've laughed harder at anything in Trek more than the moment near the beginning of ENT S4 where the 29th century Federation guy shows back up in a tunnel of historical clip art to tell Archer that the Temporal Cold War, actually, is over and you did a good job. I have been playing tabletop roleplaying games for thirty gatdamn years and I have never used or suffered a plot scrubbing as blatant as that one. It is so bad that it verges on coming back around to being good because it's bad in a funny way, like a Tim and Eric skit. But Tim and Eric use better CGI. The Tripp and Archer Awesome Show Great Job!
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Mar 23, 2024 15:25
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It's so blatantly Manny Coto saying to B&B "Thanks for the job, now gently caress off with this time travel bullshit" and I kind of love it for that.
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I mean Braga dumped the Alien Nazi plot into his lap so I don't blame him
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Look, if we can't enjoy a fascist getting phasered, what are we even doing as a thread?
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Doesn't Archer tell future guy to get lost or something like that? That amused me back when I saw it.
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LividLiquid posted:The only thing I remember was hating the Dubya vibes permeating the whole thing and a rad part in the middle of every ship where there's no gravity. The Dubya White House had that as well.
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WhiteHowler posted:My friend's Trek journey has started, and she's having an absolute blast with TOS. I did not anticipate receiving running commentaries of text messages, but I'm enjoying them quite a bit. McSpanky posted:Ask her to let you post everything, this is delightful. She finished her TOS run this week, after adding a couple of episodes (including one infamous one). We watched Wrath of Khan yesterday and she had no idea what was coming. She said I was welcome to share her log of the experience after removing a couple of identifying comments. 
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On CBS Sunday Morning, there was a media interview with a birdwatcher and nature show host who is also a Star Trek fan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1E71CwXJhI Edit: In the video, he credits being a fan of Spock for helping him stay calm and rational during an incident where a dogwalker threatened to lie to the cops that "an African-American male" was threatening her life and her dog, then she called the cops galenanorth fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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galenanorth posted:On CBS Sunday Morning, there was a media interview with a birdwatcher and nature show host who is also a Star Trek fan he also was a marvel comics editor and briefly writer, who created one of the first openly gay lead characters in mainstream superhero comics (demon-hunting lesbian)
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Squizzle posted:he also was a marvel comics editor and briefly writer, who created one of the first openly gay lead characters in mainstream superhero comics (demon-hunting lesbian) Elsa Bloodstone?
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And attempted murder by cop victim.
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A.o.D. posted:Elsa Bloodstone? victoria montessi, from darkhold: pages from the book of sin
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Oh, poo poo. That was him?
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Here's a thing: what is the economy of the Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian empires? Are they post scarcity too? Do they have money? The answer really should be "No" but the shows never actually tell us anything about it
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Taear posted:Here's a thing: what is the economy of the Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian empires?
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LividLiquid posted:They have replicators, so if they have an economy at all, it's one borne of artificial scarcity, which would be really interesting to explore. Can't replicate romulan ale, duh. Nor gold-pressed latinum, presumably.
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Arivia posted:Can't replicate romulan ale, duh. Nor gold-pressed latinum, presumably. If you try, does the replicator say something like, "I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't do that."
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They probably need to trade more with non-aligned worlds since their empires are much smaller, so currency makes more sense to have.
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drat, "Duet" is so loving good. I'll go ahead and say it: I'm glad Michelle Forbes passed on DS9, because Kira Nerys is a better character than Ro Laren.
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Fighting Trousers posted:drat, "Duet" is so loving good. But on the other hand, think of what DS9 could have done for Ro as a character and what an actor of Michelle Forbes' calibre could have pulled off with DS9's writing and directing team behind her.
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I mean, yeah, they managed to salvage Worf (and Klingons in general), so sure. But Kira (and Nana Visitor) is just so great I can't imagine DS9 without her.
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Yeah DS9 without Kira is a whole different beast that I’m not sure I’d want to see. Ro’s also a much more serious and dour character than Kira, which would give every character dynamic with her a far different vibe than they have with Kira.
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Mister Kingdom posted:If you try, does the replicator say something like, "I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't do that." If you try to replicate Romulan Ale on Romulus, the replicator just stabs you in the back.
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Taear posted:Here's a thing: what is the economy of the Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian empires? We know the Klingons use money in some capacity because of "The House of Quark", less direct evidence for the Cardassians (though we've seen them keep their winnings from Quark's games). At the least they can't be as completely post-scarcity/socially supportive as the Federation because of Gul Macet's stories of growing up starving and homeless before the military took over. Just because they have replicators on DS9, a former military station, doesn't mean they're a ubiquitous technology in the civilian or industrial sectors, or as versatile/efficient as Federation designs. As usual the Romulans come up pretty distant in terms of exploring their social and cultural makeup, but we could extrapolate from Picard and Data's lack of concern for obtaining or replicating convincing currency during their infiltration assignment in "Unification" that the Romulans either don't have a money-based economy or not enough of one to concern them for the duration of their mission.
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Fighting Trousers posted:drat, "Duet" is so loving good. I can agree that Kira was better for DS9, but Ro was better for TNG. galenanorth posted:On CBS Sunday Morning, there was a media interview with a birdwatcher and nature show host who is also a Star Trek fan As a kid with wildly overwhelming emotions, Spock was also my role model. 
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Taear posted:Here's a thing: what is the economy of the Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian empires? Qonos: Imports: Honor Exports: Death
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Yeah DS9 without Kira is a whole different beast that I’m not sure I’d want to see. DS9 with Ro is something I'd be very eager to see if we could get TV from parallel universes (yes, like in that Rick and Morty episode). It might be worse, it might be better, but gently caress, it would be fascinating to see. Other Star Trek what-ifs in that category include: - If "The Cage" had been accepted and gone to series, starring Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Pike. - Star Trek: Phase II. - ST5 if Shatner had actually been able to bring his full vision to the screen instead of running into every production problem imaginable. - If Roddenberry had actually gotten to make his craptacular time travel movie about Spock needing to shoot JFK from the grassy knoll to restore the timeline. - Voyager, starring Genevieve Bujold as Captain Janeway.
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-TNG with Yaphet Kotto as Picard, Jeffrey Combs as Riker, Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis switched roles and Argyle as the chief engineer
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There’s no universe in existence where that loser became the permanent chief engineer
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Taear posted:Here's a thing: what is the economy of the Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian empires? My theory is that the Klingon obsession with honor and glory is the result of their post-scarcity economy. Can't replicate glory, so it becomes the only thing of value, and the aristocracy needs to really emphasize their virtues to justify their stranglehold on power now that they can't buy loyalty through plunder and resources.
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Angry Salami posted:My theory is that the Klingon obsession with honor and glory is the result of their post-scarcity economy. Can't replicate glory, so it becomes the only thing of value, and the aristocracy needs to really emphasize their virtues to justify their stranglehold on power now that they can't buy loyalty through plunder and resources.
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-TNG where Picard wears that awful rug from the screen tests
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When Data and Picard are on Romulus in "Unification", they're given free soup from a restaurant, because the owner belives them to be secret police and wants to butter them up. Free Soup suggests that for anybody else, it wouldn't be free.
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Powered Descent posted:- If Roddenberry had actually gotten to make his craptacular time travel movie about Spock needing to shoot JFK from the grassy knoll to restore the timeline. Red Dwarf did that and it was great, so he might have been on to something  Big Mean Jerk posted:There’s no universe in existence where that loser became the permanent chief engineer We have here 18000 letters in support of the amazing Chief Argyl.
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