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the greatest ARPG ever made is Gauntlet: Dark Legacy
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Actually the correct answer was Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst.
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Mar 21, 2024 20:36
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Customizable skills and rerunning missions for a shot at better loot? Um, City of Heroes much?
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Mar 21, 2024 20:37
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I'm beginning to think Blizzard didn't actually invent the concept of Hell and a "Diablo", or Spanish "The Devil."
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Mar 21, 2024 21:16
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Diablo doesn’t even really have hell, or Satan, or demons
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Mar 21, 2024 22:54
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Ok yeah that was a pretty dumb post
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Mar 22, 2024 00:22
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smoobles posted:What Blizzard really needs to add is couch co-op split screen when in town, so my wife and I can do our town errands without getting divorced. I never thought about this, since we play on PC. I think we would end up killing each other. Maybe that's why they made The Gatehall, is that small enough that you can both interact with all the vendor types on the same TV? ~Coxy fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 22, 2024 |
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Mar 22, 2024 02:27
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I tried to do a stronghold so I could get the second level of renown rewards and I was maybe halfway through before I succumbed to the onslaught of tough elites. It was only after I checked the map that I realized that I was tackling at L45 stronghold at L25. So... guess I'll come back later!
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Mar 22, 2024 03:09
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yeah that's one of those weird campaign holdovers that really only persists through WT2. probably should just be eliminated like all the other level-bound stuff
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Mar 22, 2024 03:26
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wemgo posted:Its me, the poe campaign enjoyer. The main reason why I can't do anymore the POE campaign, is that for hours you are supposed to play the game differently, and outrun enemies looking for the exit/quest rather than kill stuff. It's forced disgraceful non gameplay
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Mar 22, 2024 07:49
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Mantees posted:The main reason why I can't do anymore the POE campaign, is that for hours you are supposed to play the game differently, and outrun enemies looking for the exit/quest rather than kill stuff. its only that way due to the player market and drop rates alongside the initial build of seasonal wealth and inventory creating a gold rush that heavily incentivizes rushing. There are also very specific and easy to spec into campaign builds that are honestly boring as gently caress but get you to maps where you can finally play your 'real build' its my biggest issue with the game and stfu about ssf, its an interesting mode but i don't want to dedicate my life to a extremely low drop rates single player experience. if i could play permanent ssf with increased drops i would love the game, alas i don't want to extreme optimize my playing in order to work a loving market, i play games to avoid that poo poo
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Mar 22, 2024 08:58
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Cerepol posted:There are also very specific and easy to spec into campaign builds that are honestly boring as gently caress but get you to maps where you can finally play your 'real build' That first part is what's throwing me off the most, being a noob and coming from other games. Every build I look up, even ones marked as "League Starters," uses some totally different setup until like level 30. Oh, Desecrate Dead looks cool..."use Rolling Magma and some other bs until level 33 then trade or craft these specific items to get DD online" etc etc. I understand that once you've played enough the campaign is trivial, but man it's confusing starting out. For the second part, I think that's what the Necropolis mechanic is attempting to do, right? Do the weird corpse farming to try and get a certain item, then do other weird poo poo to refine / improve it? But in a very convoluted manner. Oops, thought I was in the PoE thread for real. D4 changes look cool, though the new upgrading system seems weird. I liked just hitting the upgrade button and making the numbers go up.
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Mar 22, 2024 12:27
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Jimbot posted:Is there a good summary of all the season 4 changes around? I missed the campfire because I was playing noted great game Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Yeah, why isn't there a section in the loving game launcher? Oh, you need all the tabs for promoting horse armor and just like stash space, you can't put more text boxes in the launcher (because they need to be loaded for everyone currently running the launcher online).
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Mar 22, 2024 12:58
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No it’s that the official blogposts aren’t out until early next week. They usually drop at the same time as the campfire chat but due to the sheer amount of changes they’re taking an extra couple of days. The PTR isn’t going up for another few weeks and the season doesn’t start until May so there’s still plenty of time. Not everything has to be insidious, you’ll be ok
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Mar 22, 2024 13:04
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Mantees posted:The main reason why I can't do anymore the POE campaign, is that for hours you are supposed to play the game differently, and outrun enemies looking for the exit/quest rather than kill stuff. it's not actually forced, you can just play it how you want
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Mar 22, 2024 13:30
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hawowanlawow posted:it's not actually forced, you can just play it how you want Yeah unless you want to participate in the economy pretty heavily, then you're a bit forced to minmax your starter build to levy early gains into mid game inflation Or, you could just be poor instead, I guess. But being poor in a trade league is lovely poo
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Mar 22, 2024 15:19
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absolutely no need to do that at all, not even a little bit
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Mar 22, 2024 15:22
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Tonetta posted:Yeah unless you want to participate in the economy pretty heavily, then you're a bit forced to minmax your starter build to levy early gains into mid game inflation Sounds kinda poo poo
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Mar 22, 2024 15:27
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/summary-of-campfire-chat-320-there-is-a-lot-of-good-here/154872 Well this all sounds really good tbh? Itemization changes look like most of the things people have been wishing for and the Artificers Pit sounds like fun.
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Mar 22, 2024 15:31
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CBD Corndog posted:Not everything has to be insidious, you’ll be ok Bisse posted:the Artificers Pit sounds like fun.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:06
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:
basically greater rifts from D3 https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/news/greater-rifts-coming-to-diablo-4-season-4-artificers-pit/
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Mar 22, 2024 16:09
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I've seen a couple of other players in the starter town, but I don't think I've seen any anywhere else. Is that normal during the campaign? I noticed that a "legion" event was starting but when I checked it out there was no one else around so I bailed. The one time I thought I saw a player roaming the countryside it turned out to be an NPC hunter, which was sort of cool. Pretty dangerous out there for normal folks.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:52
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Ehud posted:basically greater rifts from D3 Dick Trauma posted:I've seen a couple of other players in the starter town, but I don't think I've seen any anywhere else. Is that normal during the campaign? I noticed that a "legion" event was starting but when I checked it out there was no one else around so I bailed.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:53
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Dick Trauma posted:I've seen a couple of other players in the starter town, but I don't think I've seen any anywhere else. Is that normal during the campaign? I noticed that a "legion" event was starting but when I checked it out there was no one else around so I bailed. world tier matters (most people will be in WT4 at this point in the season) and whether you choose seasonal or eternal realm matters (seasonal realm has way more people), crossplay on or off (on has more people, but even then, PC players see more people), and softcore vs hardcore masters (SC has way more) all of that context aside, even in the most favorable circumstances at the start of a season i see maybe 1 or 2 people all season outside of town or some kind of group activity like helltides/world boss/seasonal thing. the leveling path for most people puts them into instanced content until high WT and even then you will really only see people in helltides also other human players get their own yellow dot on the minimap whereas the hunter NPCs do not, so you can pick it out at a glance
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Mar 22, 2024 20:14
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MarcusSA posted:Sounds kinda poo poo yeah well economies are poo poo always for the newcomer, whether it's an online multiplayer video game or real life economy. you show up and are almost automatically at the bottom rung unless you had some windfall benefactor or accidentally'd your way into being a powerball winner. you're told to grind really hard and the reward is a handful of preapproved trinkets and your own little space. meanwhile, some rear end in a top hat who came well before you is making fist fulls of cash while they actively have contributed nothing since before you even shown up. you *could* own some bougie materials in the future, but you're going to have work 10x harder for it than the people who were Just There before you. the big difference between games in real life though is that in games, when players "die" they actually take their poo poo with them. also, the elderly often will outlive you, since they have full access to the best stuff and you have few if any of the really good things that'll change your gameplay experience. you could have done the same poo poo in diablo even with the highly restrictive trading - the boss mats are most expensive the first week and rapidly decline after. the best weapons will sell for billions of gold on week one to some losers who open up their wallet to a TOS site. the only difference is - what for? almost every diablo youtuber has made some minmax guide on leveling at some point for a reason other than "skipping the bad part" or whatever. people just don't do it because there's no reward for doing it in the current state.
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Mar 22, 2024 20:31
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everything youve said is so inaccurate its almosmot impressive
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Mar 22, 2024 20:35
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Inheritance tax for PoE players when
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Mar 22, 2024 20:49
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Doomykins posted:Inheritance tax for PoE players when We’ll just donate all our funds to our personal charities
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Mar 22, 2024 23:35
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I'm gonna open a Diablibrary with my name on it
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Mar 22, 2024 23:40
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sounds like the best solution is not to have an economy. another win for Diablo 4
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Mar 23, 2024 01:19
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Tonetta posted:yeah well economies are poo poo always for the newcomer, whether it's an online multiplayer video game or real life economy. you show up and are almost automatically at the bottom rung unless you had some windfall benefactor or accidentally'd your way into being a powerball winner. you're told to grind really hard and the reward is a handful of preapproved trinkets and your own little space. meanwhile, some rear end in a top hat who came well before you is making fist fulls of cash while they actively have contributed nothing since before you even shown up. you *could* own some bougie materials in the future, but you're going to have work 10x harder for it than the people who were Just There before you. literally nothing you just said applies to poe in any way
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Mar 23, 2024 03:59
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Bisse posted:https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/summary-of-campfire-chat-320-there-is-a-lot-of-good-here/154872 So still no group finder or ways to join people on the same quests? Great, this multiplayer-only, internet-connection-required game still has you playing solo all the time.
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Mar 23, 2024 04:13
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Phanatic posted:So still no group finder or ways to join people on the same quests? Great, this multiplayer-only, internet-connection-required game still has you playing solo all the time. It came up in the campfire stream Q&A and got a fairly vague "we want to help people get into groups but nothing to announce for season 4" Not the answer you're looking for I imagine, but they're going to improve it at some point
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Mar 23, 2024 04:28
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An Actual Princess posted:literally nothing you just said applies to poe in any way its a really incredible post Phanatic posted:So still no group finder or ways to join people on the same quests? Great, this multiplayer-only, internet-connection-required game still has you playing solo all the time. yeah its an arpg
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Mar 23, 2024 04:31
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neat
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Mar 23, 2024 08:47
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Phanatic posted:So still no group finder or ways to join people on the same quests? Great, this multiplayer-only, internet-connection-required game still has you playing solo all the time. Someone made an awesome group finder addon for World Quests when they first came out in WoW and Blizzard banned it.
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Mar 25, 2024 02:55
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I found this to be a concise summary of the upcoming changes. Talks about everything, shows examples on screen, summarizes what the new gameplay loop will look like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HnrfoszF5w
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Mar 25, 2024 10:34
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Ehud posted:I found this to be a concise summary of the upcoming changes. Talks about everything, shows examples on screen, summarizes what the new gameplay loop will look like.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:56
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Ehud posted:I found this to be a concise summary of the upcoming changes. Talks about everything, shows examples on screen, summarizes what the new gameplay loop will look like. Apart from this guy reminding me of what I looked like during my blunder years (ugh), it was a well-made video. I wish this was the standard for all youtube gaming vids 
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:Apart from this guy reminding me of what I looked like during my blunder years (ugh), it was a well-made video. He makes lots of really good videos. He’s from some town in Alaska and it’s been nice to see his channel(s) grow.
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