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i've been banned from this thread before for saying this situation is hopeless and i still feel the same way however it does seem now like the net is closing in now and that soon enough, european countries won't have a choice but to put embargos and sanctions on israel. and soon enough it will just be genocide joe and bibi doing their genocide on their own, showing their true colors to the rest of the world. it took less than 2 weeks for even switzerland to put sanctions on russian oligarchs after the war in ukraine started. it's been 5 months and not a single resolution has been passed. my politicians are loving cowards and i will never forget who was in power during these times. gently caress them, gently caress them all (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Brogeoisie posted:Yeah same, what happens if Israel ignores? Will UN hold them accountable? no, the un cant hold israel accountable unless the US agrees, which the US will never agree
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Soldiers of the IDF should not know peace, they must be prosecuted for the whole of their lives.
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Sancho Banana how is israeli media or talking heads reacting to the UN resolution?
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Brogeoisie posted:Yeah same, what happens if Israel ignores? Will UN hold them accountable? Hopefully more countries will stop trading with Israel, I don't know.
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Yeah this is a good symbolic gesture and could maybe be a first step towards actual consequences for Israel, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm still thinking Israel is going to flame out and the only real question is how many innocent people we collectively allow them to kill along the way.
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Al-Saqr posted:Sancho Banana how is israeli media or talking heads reacting to the UN resolution? So far I'm seeing people online reacting like Netanyahu - inexplicably mad about the resolution just because it specified a ceasefire and also mad at Biden for not vetoing.
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Hamas put out a statement, they welcome the resolution and have immediately jumped on the neutral wording of the 'hostage release' clause ================================= Urgent | Hamas: We welcome the UN Security Council’s call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza Urgent | Hamas: We stress the necessity of reaching a permanent ceasefire that leads to the withdrawal of all Zionist forces and the return of the displaced Urgent | Hamas: We affirm our readiness to engage in an immediate prisoner exchange process that leads to the release of prisoners on both sides Urgent | Hamas: We emphasize the importance of freedom of movement of citizens and access to all humanitarian needs of residents in all areas of the Gaza Strip Urgent | Hamas: We call on the Security Council to pressure the occupation to adhere to the ceasefire and stop the war of genocide and ethnic cleansing against our people. Urgent | Hamas: We appreciate the efforts of the brothers in #الجزائر and the countries in the Security Council that are working to stop the Zionist aggression and war of annihilation. https://x.com/AJABreaking/status/1772288006461739292?s=20
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Malloc Voidstar posted:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...0000#1721707678
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Fast Luck posted:I mean, i read the solution and it demands a temporary ceasefire for Ramadan, and demands the release of the hostages. It sucks rear end dont know what these losers are complaining about The resolution said temporary leading to lasting, and the resolution didnt specify whose hostages, it's a blow for israel.
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here's the full textquote:The Security Council,
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hopefully it leads to more israel infighting
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Israeli piglet at the UN crying and wailing and gnashing his teeth right now
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Netanyahu seems to have spread straight up disinformation about how the resolution doesn't demand the release of hostages and some Israeli outlets reported it like that, for example this: "The US didn't veto: a UN resolution has been passed calling for an immediate ceasefire without the condition to release hostages, Netanyahu promised - the Israeli delegation to Washington will be canceled" https://twitter.com/GLZRadio/status/1772272845470445673?t=t0lcmofD3cKse11iRFPemQ&s=19 which I guess explains why some people are mad at it, but I don't get why Netanyahu would do that? What's the deal here lol Sancho Banana has issued a correction as of 16:57 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Sancho Banana posted:So they didn't remove "permanent" entirely, rather they changed it to the more vague "lasting sustainable". I'm sure this indicates intention to act in good faith
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Al-Saqr posted:The resolution said temporary leading to lasting, and the resolution didnt specify whose hostages, it's a blow for israel. actually a few signs lately that even Americans are tiring of israels genocidal bloodlust: a) AOC saying g-word b) kamala saying nothnig is ruled out if Israel attacks rafah (previously US had already in advance ruled out ever limiting arms supplies) c) that white house statement I think it was saying Israel does not realize how close it is to completely losing the whole world d) the US abstaining here i guess, considering israel is tantrumming about it of course this is simultaneous to what is, to me, a fairly clear israeli decision that nothing whatsoever is out of bounds in northern gaza and any palestinian who remains there can be raped/executed/etc without limit. Disgusting, appaling, sickening, etc
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Fast Luck posted:Yeah I guess so, I didn't see that hamas response posted just above my post b is meaningless because shes a moron they role out as pr genocide joe has already said multiple times hes never cutting aid to israel you can make the argument though that the us is getting tired of being dragged down alongside israel which seems to be the case but the us just passed almost another 4 billion in military aid to israel continued the unrwa ban and defunded the un dep to investigateisrael
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Sancho Banana posted:which I guess explains why some people are mad at it, but I don't get why Netanyahu would do that? What's the deal here lol hard to read it as anything other than a belief on his end that israel's current position as the tail that wags the american dog is natural law, as opposed to a result of the fact that our political establishment and particularly our thin-skinned, sundowning u.s. president have always loved israel and its apartheid regime because it serves their ends and values. reads as an effort to publicly embarrass and rewrite reality to make Biden acquiesce, which will surely work on a famously pugnacious man prone to taking offense Valentin has issued a correction as of 17:02 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Wow the Israeli guy in the UN is really making GBS threads his diapers bigtime.
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Al-Saqr posted:literally 30 minutes before the UN resolution, Hamas launched rockets on Asdod, a fitting message to the israelis that on the moment of ceasefire they didnt accomplish jack poo poo did a ceasefire actually occur? i thought this was just the UN telling them to implement one.
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Al-Saqr posted:netanyahu is pooping his pamps seems like cancelling your suck-and-gently caress tour through washington will only be more harmful to your cause as netty boy here
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lol these nazis cant help themselves they have to open a second front Israeli Defense Minister: Stopping the war in Gaza may bring a war closer to the northern front https://x.com/AJArabic/status/1772292143819960438?s=20
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theres no ceasefire theres been on-going negotiations for months
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Al-Saqr posted:it's moments like this I kinda wish I still had twitter so I can see immediate reactions but then I remember that I've had 10 days of perfect mental serenity so I dont miss it at all. I think I speak for many of us when I say that we appreciate your updates, commentary, and perspective, but your mental health is more important than this specific thread on these forums. Don't go back.
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Sancho Banana posted:Netanyahu seems to have spread straight up disinformation about how the resolution doesn't demand the release of hostages and some Israeli outlets reported it like that, for example this: The resolution does not name a single party (i.e. Hamas) in the order to release hostages. That is what Israel is looking for. The order is neutral, meaning Israel would have to release their prisoners/hostages in exchange.
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Al-Saqr posted:lol these nazis cant help themselves they have to open a second front Well, they can't just NOT do a war, of course
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Gallant is also mad, saying "we have no ethical right to stop the war in Gaza until we return all the hostages to their homes". https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1772290089554440482?t=Ck2Ks_INToreYoFe66iQWA&s=19 They seem to be living in some collective delusion that the resolution demands Israel to stop fighting unconditionally, it's weird lol
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Raccooon posted:https://x.com/aoc/status/1772047796004163828?s=46&t=q1yioAlNJ1Wnv5VQrEw_AA degaussed!
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Al-Saqr posted:Hamas put out a statement, they welcome the resolution and have immediately jumped on the neutral wording of the 'hostage release' clause Hamas has had a slogan demanding an "all for all" prisoner exchange since October. It's not surprising to see them embrace that neutral wording.
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Sancho Banana posted:Netanyahu seems to have spread straight up disinformation about how the resolution doesn't demand the release of hostages and some Israeli outlets reported it like that, for example this:
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:The resolution does not name a single party (i.e. Hamas) in the order to release hostages. That is what Israel is looking for. The order is neutral, meaning Israel would have to release their prisoners/hostages in exchange. its a fun little rhetorical double bind because if you specify the release of hamas-held hostages only youre admitting that israel also takes hostages regularly
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actually we were planning to veto the resolution but that annoying bitch bibi promised to not come if we let it pass
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Fast Luck posted:Yeah I guess so, I didn't see that hamas response posted just above my post I would not hold your breath on any of these. All of it is election season PR.
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if i were given the choice id be a hamas hostage every time, even with the isreali bombs and starvation id rather be cared for than beaten and raped daily personally. its fantastic that everyone knows that this is the reality yet we have to cry over the hostages that hamas took ONLY
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I would not hold your breath on any of these. All of it is election season PR. yep like tossing kamala out there to talk about "rescheduling" marijuana
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Al-Saqr posted:the resolution passed, sadly we need to see the actual wording, the lack of the word 'permament' is a big boon to the israelis and if the resolution demands the release of the hostages than Hamas lost alot of its cards. Al-Saqr posted:now thinking on it, the neutral wording on the hostage clause is extremely significant and a major loss for israel, hamas can claim many thousands of people are hostages of israel 🇵🇸  🇺🇳
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Mantis42 posted:actually we were planning to veto the resolution but that annoying bitch bibi promised to not come if we let it pass The Biden admin is so myopic and petty, I wouldn't be surprised if this actually played a role. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of deaths are of no consequence to them, but avoiding a meeting with annoying Zionists gets them to do poo poo.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:how long has it been since the nasrallah teaser trailer nasrallahs been overtaken by Yahya Sinwar as an islamic hero at this point
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