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Cimber posted:You seem to think that this is somehow the fault of the Democrats. Did you see my post about my coworker running for school board? Now multiply that by all the people running as democrats in deep red areas in races that actually have national significance. I wasn’t really blaming the democrats, but I figured they’re the only ones with the motivation to do anything about it, the Republicans certainly don’t and the cops are unlikely to be much help, so…
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What if we found some Dem candidates to fake being the craziest MAGA types for a primary cycle and then switch parties after the general This would only work once, but could be worth it if everyone had their ducks in a row
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It'd honestly be easier to just spend the time and resources to try and flip difficult seats the normal way than create a farce like that. On that note, this is the year that A) as many seats as possible need to be flipped, no matter how impossible they seem because B) the rats are fleeing the ship, this is likely the best opportunity to cause upsets since the GOP is tearing itself apart and has several crisis of leadership going at once. Those "safe" R seats are all extremely difficult battles to even try. But a lot of the existential problems facing the US need supermajorities to fix, so flipping some of those seats is the only way to accomplish that outside of revolution. If there's a year where things could go differently than the norm this is it.
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Talking farce, I have to wonder how practical it would be to have people run as 'classic Republican' and vote exactly the same as a current Democrat and see if anyone in that wedge demographic would even notice the difference.
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BonoMan posted:Goddamnit, North Carolina. So Michele Morrow was our local Moms for Liberty poo poo candidate (home schooled her kids, has no idea what she's doing, has multiple times publicly asked for the execution of presidents, etc) lost last year in the local school board elections. Dems win statewide races in NC routinely. There is a percentage of libertarian/business oriented conservatives that will vote for moderate dem governors and council of state offices to protect their economic interests. If things got too "jesusland" it would hurt their investments. However they will never vote to give dems federal power through the presidency or the senate. This is why you see NC having D governors and voting for R presidents since forever. Bodyholes fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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Bodyholes posted:Dems win statewide races in NC routinely. There is a percentage of libertarian/business oriented conservatives that will vote for moderate dem governors and council of state offices to protect their economic interests. If things got too "jesusland" it would hurt their investments. However they will never vote to give dems federal power through the presidency or the senate. The first time Tillis got elected, the Dems had a blank slate guy running who had a decent shot. Then a couple of months before the election his affairs came to light and he got trounced. Someone correctly said that all he had to do to win was do nothing and he couldn't do that right. Dems, almost universally, are a waste.
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This is very surprising but also a plus (this race is for Menendez's seat) https://twitter.com/wildstein/status/1771981599845818731?s=20
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FlamingLiberal posted:This is very surprising but also a plus (this race is for Menendez's seat) my guess is internal polls showed not great things for her and kim is the better canidate. she will try again some other time probably.
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rip tammymentum
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GoutPatrol posted:rip tammymentum I am unironically digging those pants
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Jethro posted:I am unironically digging those pants Agreed, definitely good fashion choice there.
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Jethro posted:I am unironically digging those pants That was about my only takeaway from the picture, yup.
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Important news: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1772084227200164325?s=19
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Push El Burrito posted:Important news: lol and lmao
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A state appellate court in NY threw Trump a bone by reducing the amount of bond he will have to put up in order to stop the enforcement of the judgment against him in the fraud case. He now must put up $175 million within 10 days. https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1772289496312135830?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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will there be any explanation from the court on what grounds they granted the motion?
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Judges don't always have to explain their reasoning when it comes to granting or denying motions.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Judges don't always have to explain their reasoning when it comes to granting or denying motions. Yeah but if they don't it means it was either extremely obvious or they're dodging stating it
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FlamingLiberal posted:A state appellate court in NY threw Trump a bone by reducing the amount of bond he will have to put up in order to stop the enforcement of the judgment against him in the fraud case. He now must put up $175 million within 10 days. Mother gently caress
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Who knows if he can even raise that much
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FlamingLiberal posted:Who knows if he can even raise that much He said he has more than even the $500 million in cash on his social media website, but we don't actually hold rich people accountable for their words or actions in this country so that just got ignored in favor of giving him the rich people Emerald+ Tier justice system treatment. Again.
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Mar 25, 2024 18:20
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Pretty sure that's a lie, because nobody would give him a loan to put money up to appeal this judgment
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bird food bathtub posted:He said he has more than even the $500 million in cash on his social media website, but we don't actually hold rich people accountable for their words or actions in this country so that just got ignored in favor of giving him the rich people Emerald+ Tier justice system treatment. Again. Yeah, but everyone knows drat well he's lying. Nobody thinks Trump actually has that much cash on hand, and his lawyers presented plenty of evidence to the court regarding their efforts (and failure) to get a bond for the full amount. While the court could punish him for lying on social media, you usually have to piss off a judge quite a bit for them to get that petty.
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He can likely easily raise the money selling his DJT stock when it opens tomorrow
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Fart Amplifier posted:He can likely easily raise the money selling his DJT stock when it opens tomorrow he can't do anything with his stock for six months after the... I can't remember if it's an ipo but you get the gist
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Goatse James Bond posted:he can't do anything with his stock for six months after the... I can't remember if it's an ipo but you get the gist It's not an IPO no, it's being acquired by a
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Goatse James Bond posted:he can't do anything with his stock for six months after the... I can't remember if it's an ipo but you get the gist AFAIK the board can waive it immediately. Would like to be wrong.
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Fart Amplifier posted:AFAIK the board can waive it immediately. Would like to be wrong. They could have the poo poo sued out of them for that if it makes the price drop. Which it would.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:They could have the poo poo sued out of them for that if it makes the price drop. Which it would. OK, so someone who isnt Donald Trump might be sued. They can still do it.
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lol Trump gets his bond casually reduced by $300,000,000+ like it's getting an extra 10 min for lunch gently caress this country forever.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Pretty sure that's a lie, because nobody would give him a loan to put money up to appeal this judgment He probably does have a lot of cash but it's probably pledged as collateral for various loans so he can't also pledge it for this. 175m is still a lot for a bank or insurer or whatever to front and also a lot to scrounge up in liquid cash. It might still be a serious obstacle for him.
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Magic Underwear posted:He probably does have a lot of cash but it's probably pledged as collateral for various loans so he can't also pledge it for this. 175m is still a lot for a bank or insurer or whatever to front and also a lot to scrounge up in liquid cash. It might still be a serious obstacle for him. With his Truth Social meme stock he's likely about to sell he might end up actually richer than he's ever been
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:lol Trump gets his bond casually reduced by $300,000,000+ like it's getting an extra 10 min for lunch $289 million. Also he has 10 more days to pay it now But this is just the bond, if he loses on appeal he owes the rest of it
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haveblue posted:$289 million. Also he has 10 more days to pay it now It took him like five years to be investigated and charged and found liable, he'll appeal until he's dead
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Fart Amplifier posted:OK, so someone who isnt Donald Trump might be sued. They can still do it. People who aren’t Donald Trump actually face consequences so they’re less likely to do it.
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haveblue posted:if he loses on appeal he owes the rest of it Yeah and a few hours ago he was required to post a half a billion.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:People who aren’t Donald Trump actually face consequences so they’re less likely to do it. Trump JR, Linda McMahon, Devin Nunes, and a bunch of Trump stooges are not going to be less likely to do it.
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I'm not saying it's a nothingburger or the end of the world. I think that bond reduction has been partially done to deprive Trump of the ability to say he didn't get to appeal and lie to people about how he would totally have triumphed on an appellate level. The whole Truth Social/DWAC situation is tricky. Trump seems to be able to Mr. Magoo his way through life while everyone else suffers, but it definitely looks like a legal minefield if he truly milks the structure to raise the cash ASAP. https://apnews.com/article/trump-cash-spac-digital-world-dwac-ce4b055545378ab05d52513ffe2d4d4f quote:Trump faces a $454 million judgment in a fraud lawsuit, among other financial burdens. But he cannot sell easily for at least six months. That’s because major TMTG shareholders will be under what’s called a “lock-up” provision, a common restriction on Wall Street that keeps big, early investors from immediately dumping their shares. Such sales could tank the stock’s price. You could see a total free for all with the share price tanking even faster than usual and a bunch of lawsuits coming out of that. Then again, who the hell is investing in DWAC and anything Trump-related anyway?
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Eric Cantonese posted:I think that bond reduction has been partially done to deprive Trump of the ability to say he didn't get to appeal There is no way to deprive Trump of the ability to say this. It was already not true, and he can and probably will still say this.
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Eric Cantonese posted:I'm not saying it's a nothingburger or the end of the world. I think that bond reduction has been partially done to deprive Trump of the ability to say he didn't get to appeal and lie to people about how he would totally have triumphed on an appellate level. I agree with your overall idea in that the judge may be trying to remove any ability for Trump to further appeal on the ground that he was treated unfairly, but wanted to call out one point for accuracy. He doesn't need to post bond to appeal. Posting bond just stops his assets from being seized and sold immediately. If he wins his appeal without posting bond, then he simply gets the money that was gained from selling his assets, as opposed to getting back the bond if he posted one.
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